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Xbox 360 'Slim' CPU/GPU, Motherboard Leaked?

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Could these be the first concrete evidence of an Xbox 360 'Slim' model?

While Sony has made it standard practice to release a slimmer, lighter version of its PlayStation console in each of its three generations, Microsoft could be on the brink of its first.

Through various motherboard revisions, Microsoft has kept the form factor of the Xbox 360 nearly constant. Kotaku reports that supposedly leaked shots of a revised Xbox 360 motherboard have appeared on a Chinese forum and now point to what is potentially the first sign of an Xbox 360 'Slim'.

Most telling is what appears to be the integration of both the ATI-designed GPU and IBM-designed PowerPC CPU now in a single chip. Such a move would not only allow for a smaller footprint, but it would also drive up profits for the platform holder and also allow for price cuts to the consumer.

Perhaps coincidentally (or not), Microsoft has just posted a job listing looking for a Motherboard Design Engineer to work on the Xbox 360 team.

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    builderbobftw , March 17, 2010 11:04 PM
    I have had 3 Xbox's RROD on me.

    I bought me 4870 1gb, and never looked back.
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    Billjr106 , March 17, 2010 11:12 PM
    Ive had 3 xboxes and have yet to have any crash, one is a release day box also... not saying they dont crash, just saying they all dont crash.... anyway the newer ones crash even less, and to the gentleman bashing the new form factor saying it too will crash, actually, slimmer streamlined layout with new smaller chip manufacturing process actually means less heat and less crashes... think next time...
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  • 27 Hide
    builderbobftw , March 17, 2010 11:04 PM
    I have had 3 Xbox's RROD on me.

    I bought me 4870 1gb, and never looked back.
  • 26 Hide
    Billjr106 , March 17, 2010 11:12 PM
    Ive had 3 xboxes and have yet to have any crash, one is a release day box also... not saying they dont crash, just saying they all dont crash.... anyway the newer ones crash even less, and to the gentleman bashing the new form factor saying it too will crash, actually, slimmer streamlined layout with new smaller chip manufacturing process actually means less heat and less crashes... think next time...
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    thegreathuntingdolphin , March 17, 2010 11:34 PM
    With a CPU heatsink/fan that big, I don't think it will be a slim model!
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    Anonymous , March 17, 2010 11:55 PM
    because a CPU/GPU failure is common on consoles..... dude we talking about 5 year old tech shrunk down to probably 45nm or less with CPU and GPU on a single die, thats not to say an integrated piece of silicone, just that they plonked both them into the same package, saves money, more energy efficient and dissipates less heat, and MS is just the integrator, the CPU IP is owned and by IBM as is the GPU by ATI though the new package probably fabed by IBM, who strangely enough have a very good track record doing that sort of stuff

    get over the RROD already, not like a PS2 has ever melted on anyone....
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    jmchien , March 17, 2010 11:55 PM
    billjr106Ive had 3 xboxes and have yet to have any crash, one is a release day box also... not saying they dont crash, just saying they all dont crash.... anyway the newer ones crash even less, and to the gentleman bashing the new form factor saying it too will crash, actually, slimmer streamlined layout with new smaller chip manufacturing process actually means less heat and less crashes... think next time...



    A smaller (node) chip doesn't necessarily mean lower heat dissipation... just indicates a higher potential for lower heat...
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    dreamphantom_1977 , March 17, 2010 11:58 PM
    hmm.... Thats funny, I thought that was the m.b. for the xbox 720 directX 11 unit? hmmm.....wierd.....

    What did I do with that link?
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    burnley14 , March 17, 2010 11:59 PM
    Why bother coming out with a new version? I'm ready for a hardware refresh and a whole new console.
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    Montezuma , March 18, 2010 12:00 AM
    idisarmuWhy don't YOU think next time? How are they supposed to fit a PROPER cooling device into a SLIM console? ...or will they make this new xbox out of copper and include heat spreaders/fins on the outside?


    How about you calm down and discuss this like a mature person. I have had a similar experience to billjr106. I am not sure if people abuse their property, or what, but I have two Xbox 360s and neither of them have ever failed on me. That does not mean they will never fail, but they both have been played a minimum of 1500 hours each without any type of failure.

    I am sure there are some faulty units produced, but I have yet to see the rate of failure that has been posted across the internet. As a matter of fact, out of the many friends that own an Xbox 360, none of them have failed. This is also true for the PS3s we all own.
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    invlem , March 18, 2010 12:04 AM
    idisarmuWhy don't YOU think next time? How are they supposed to fit a PROPER cooling device into a SLIM console? ...or will they make this new xbox out of copper and include heat spreaders/fins on the outside?


    Hmmm, maybe the way Sony made the slim? Smaller process, more efficient layout of the interior. Its not impossible to make the form factor smaller AND cooler, actually isn't that what we do in the electronics world with every generation?

    Combining the two heat creating components into a single chip, using a smaller die process (less heat) means you've just relocated 90% of your heat output to a single source.

    This means only requiring one heat-sink versus the old two piece design and a heck of a lot of room saved.

    Just look at the new intel i3's they basically did the same thing by integrating the graphics core into the cpu.

    Less heat, less noise, less power draw, less points of failure.
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    aethm , March 18, 2010 12:06 AM
    Getting away from the fanboy trolls and back to the real topic..

    I think this is likely a hoax or a very early revision because I find it very unlikely that they would that cooling solution.
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    danimal_the_animal , March 18, 2010 12:13 AM
    OK

    Why are you guys STILL saying microsoft hasnt fixed the RRD?

    The newest Xboxes run VERY COOL!

    let me explain....

    I am running windows media center in the front room of my house....i am using 3 xbox360's as extenders....

    one of them is a year old and blows pretty warm air out the back of the unit when in use...the other two are 3 months old (dell had them on sale for 179.99)

    any how the two new units under heavy load blow cool air out the back...even after hours of use....they have the latest revision chipset.

    I believe that unless you buy a new unit you may suffer the RRD which is obviously caused by heat!

    i wouldnt be suprised if the first unit fails.

    FYI the units i purchased were arcade units and they were purchased from dell.

    hope this helps...I'm probably the only person with 3 units in house!
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    Shadow703793 , March 18, 2010 12:15 AM
    Is it me or does that HSF look like a stock Intel cooler from the Socket 478 era? O.o?
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    Shadow703793 , March 18, 2010 12:15 AM
    idisarmuWhy don't YOU think next time? How are they supposed to fit a PROPER cooling device into a SLIM console? ...or will they make this new xbox out of copper and include heat spreaders/fins on the outside?

    Sure why not? Look at ho they do it on laptops!
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    LATTEH , March 18, 2010 12:18 AM
    I guess there starting to learn that having a fan directly on the heat sink helps :D 
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    skittle , March 18, 2010 12:26 AM
    I put my xbox in a lian-li XB01, no more over heating, and people are always curious as to where the xbox is when they are playing :p 
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    nforce4max , March 18, 2010 12:27 AM
    Hmmm Perhaps they got it right this time and is the primary reason why I have yet to purchase one and mind you I had the chance to get one for $20 for just the bare console however it was far from mint condition. It later worked so I've been told but that is besides the point. PS3 na I'll pass all the same. The pc is just right for me play old games as well the latest.
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    jrharbort , March 18, 2010 12:32 AM
    This is something that was done with both the PS2, and the PS3 slim. I also heard talk of Microsoft shrinking the process of both chips to 45nm. If this is done, I can see them pulling off a unified cooling system like in the image above. The shrink to 65nm alone reduced the heat by a considerable amount.
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