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Rumor: PlayStation 4 Coming 2012, Will Bring Kinect-like Motion Control

- By - Source : Digitimes

The latest scuttlebutt has it that the PS4 will arrive next year with motion-sensing technology in tow.

Just a couple of weeks ago we heard reports that Microsoft was gearing up to present the new generation of Xbox console, the Xbox 720, at E3 2012. VideoGamer claimed to have spoken to Crysis developer Crytek and learned that Microsoft plans to announce and launch the console before Sony gets the PS4 out the door.

Today brings news of Sony's next-gen PlayStation, the PS4, which will supposedly arrive next year, too. While it's not yet clear if the PS4 will indeed arrive after the Xbox 720, it seems the new PlayStation may borrow some features from Microsoft's motion-sensing peripheral. According to Digitimes, the source of the reports that say PS4 will arrive next year, the console will boast body movement-based control similar to Kinect.

Of course, Sony already has its own motion-controlled platform (Move), which utilizes a special wand that is tracked by the PlayStation Eye. Still, it's possible Sony will evolve Move so that it actually tracks your movements and not just a rather strange looking controller.

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Marco925 07/06/2011 3:10 PM
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Lets hope it isnt bloody expensive like the PS3

lunyone 07/06/2011 3:11 PM
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So the Xbox and the PS4 will be released in 2013-14 during the Holiday rush? I seem to remember they talk about the new consoles for about a year or so before they are actually released? Am I wrong in that acertation?

back_by_demand 07/06/2011 3:15 PM
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Where is the outrage that Sony are copying Microsoft technology?
Haters gotta hate.

spookyman 07/06/2011 3:16 PM
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Lets see....

The PS4 will cost you around $1000 next Xmas.

alhanelem 07/06/2011 3:23 PM
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i really dont care what they do as long as they push the graphics up considerably so we dont get shitty ports on the PC, my ps3 is still dead and hopefully the price tag will go down and i can get a new one cheap

Who knows? Maybe we'll be able to see the graphics of the PC in 2010 on a 720/PS4 in 2013/2014....

Anonymous 07/06/2011 3:26 PM
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Let's hope it's easier to develop for than the PS3. Pigs might also fly.

Sabiancym 07/06/2011 3:27 PM
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When will it end! I'm starting to think that the 2018 game of the year will be a flyswatting mini-game with facebook or google+ integration.......

Anonymous 07/06/2011 3:37 PM
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So based on the graphics available the last 2 years, we can expect 1920x1080 resolution with low to medium detail, and no aa of any kind, or it'll be scaled up 1680x1050 with a few perks.

LORD_ORION 07/06/2011 3:38 PM
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LORD_ORION 07/06/2011 3:40 PM
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Interesting, this was the way controllers were supposed to go to keep the mainstream gamers... not what Nintendo is doing, giving a cruddy iTouch controller.

Anonymous 07/06/2011 3:43 PM
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@lunyone

Speculation of new consoles usually flies around for a year or two prior to their actual announcement. It really depends on how fast these companies can get a working prototype/development kit together. They then send off the kit to select software studios so they can make tech demos, which are often showcased at E3/TGS/GC (Leipzig) for the new systems unveiling.

IIRC, Sony's co-development of the Cell Processor alone started 4 years prior (with rumors of the PS3s capabilities surfacing not long after) to the PS3s announcement.

Anonymous 07/06/2011 3:44 PM
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maybe the 720 will use hd-dvd natively for games / security and support usb dvd/bd players... that'd be something... i guess it still wouldn't get around the licensing but idk

amk09 07/06/2011 4:02 PM
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they better be loading up the RAM on these next gen consoles. 4GB minimum

darkxuy 07/06/2011 4:03 PM
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if they are smart they should bring a kinect+move hybrid.(kinect full body tracking and move precision and input)

anyways, i just hope for kick ass graphics for the benefit of PC games. ;)

jakmove 07/06/2011 4:03 PM
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wonder if it'll be backwards compatible with PS3 games....

Anonymous 07/06/2011 4:05 PM
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nexus9113 07/06/2011 4:23 PM
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alhanelem :
i really dont care what they do as long as they push the graphics up considerably so we dont get shitty ports on the PC, my ps3 is still dead and hopefully the price tag will go down and i can get a new one cheapWho knows? Maybe we'll be able to see the graphics of the PC in 2010 on a 720/PS4 in 2013/2014....



Keep dreaming buddy, remember that they have to build a sub $500 PC.


To those thinking that the next generation is going to be a big leap, nope, not going to happen. A number of dev's have already said two things: They don't have any clue what to do next, that's why they're rehashing the same crap and putting Kinect/Move functionality into everything, and that they have hit a ceiling with visual fidelity where the biggest stuff they're doing is tweaking existing systems to run/look better, not overhauling them. (EX: the latest Unreal Engine Demo was referred to as Unreal Engine 3.99 by Cliffy B)

When everyone was making fun of and trash talking Move and Kinect, saying Sony and MS were just trying to milk the tit a bit longer, guess what, you don't spend millions in R&D to buy a couple years. This is their future. They've got to appeal to the "hardcore" segment with traditional controllers, and the casual segment with the motion controllers to make as much money as possible.

Anonymous 07/06/2011 4:29 PM
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You shouldn't be complaining at the price of the PS3, in fact it is sold for less than the actual production cost, why?

It is roughly £40 more expensive to produce a playstation 3 than the sale price; this £40 covers the free blu ray drive that Sony have added.

It means that they lose £40 on every playstation 3 sold but earn a heck of a lot more because it means they have a (Sony) blu-ray drive in many homes and earn commission from every blu-ray disc sold.

scrumworks 07/06/2011 4:32 PM
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So un-innovative Japanese company is copying Microsoft. How lame.

back_by_demand 07/06/2011 4:58 PM
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Graphics power doesn't need to be that powerful, the resolution is only ever going to be 1920x1080 and capped at 60fps, they can do that with 3 year old graphics chips.

3D isn't that hard either, so apart from touting a motion controller that is direct ripoff of Kinect and a swiss-cheese security network, exactly what does the PS4 have to offer?

elcentral 07/06/2011 5:08 PM
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molo9000 07/06/2011 5:13 PM
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I'm interested only if it has PS2 and PS3 backwards comparibility.

Dark Comet 07/06/2011 5:34 PM
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elcentral :
way to early for ps3. a console a`d to run for at least 8 years before a replacement. the games for the bloody thing is only now reaching almost 100% of the system. but xbox is about done and wii is also out of the game.



Console vs PC, yes there's a big difference worth talking about. PS3 V Xbox 360? The difference is too small for anyone to care about. The only big difference I've seen is when the PS3 first came out and had awful versions of multi-platform games.

back_by_demand :
Graphics power doesn't need to be that powerful, the resolution is only ever going to be 1920x1080 and capped at 60fps, they can do that with 3 year old graphics chips.3D isn't that hard either, so apart from touting a motion controller that is direct ripoff of Kinect and a swiss-cheese security network, exactly what does the PS4 have to offer?



Resolution isn't the only thing that drops frame rate. Most PC games run at 1080P and are still upgrading their graphics cards.

dreamcoyote 07/06/2011 5:43 PM
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also remember that bringing Kinect-like functionality to the PS4 will ensure that they can get ports of any killer game developed for Kinect. Letting Microsoft have a functionality gap means they are giving Mickey$oft exclusive titles and potentially killer casual gamer titles (if one should come around).
I hope they support real DLNA and music management. They've left the same lame audio player sitting there for years. let us control playlists via PC or something! if you want to be the media hub of the house, you have to go all the way..
I would think it would have to support PS3 games. as systems become more powerful it takes longer to develop content (deeper graphics take more time, etc) so they may follow their previous strategy - support PS3 games on a more expensive version of the console and kill that off after a while so you push people to PS4 games instead of the cheaper PS3 catalog.
what would be neat to see: bring back the dual HDMI for some serious couch-coop :D

back_by_demand 07/06/2011 6:09 PM
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Dark Comet :
Console vs PC, yes there's a big difference worth talking about. PS3 V Xbox 360? The difference is too small for anyone to care about. The only big difference I've seen is when the PS3 first came out and had awful versions of multi-platform games.
Resolution isn't the only thing that drops frame rate. Most PC games run at 1080P and are still upgrading their graphics cards.


Don't know about you but I can play at 2560 x 1600 and regularly stomp over 100fps, DX11, AA, AF, HDR - and I haven't upgraded my graphics in nearly 2 years.
Don't confuse PC gamers limitation of resolution being anything to do with the graphics cards, it is the monitors they use.
But even if you plugged your PS3 into my Dell 30" it would still only do HD because thats the limit on the hardware.

PC gaming FTW!!!

wild9 07/06/2011 6:33 PM
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Can it run Linux, Sony, or are you still as tight as a duck's arse?

rohitbaran 07/06/2011 6:49 PM
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Quote :Of course, Sony already has its own motion-controlled platform (Move), which utilizes a special wand that is tracked by the PlayStation Eye.

...and compared to Kinect, it turned out to be a dud. That's why, Sony wants something like Kinect!

darkxuy 07/06/2011 7:00 PM
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Resolution has nothing to do with a game graphics quality.
Yes, the bigger the resolution the better its displayed (and the harder the graphic card has to push), but when i say killer graphics i mean the capability of higher polycount, lights, textures, effects, etc..

reggieray 07/06/2011 7:09 PM
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Marco925 :
Lets hope it isnt bloody expensive like the PS3


Wonder if the Crapbox 720 will have a 50+% failure rate and the MS fanboys will still say it is the best.

4th floor 07/06/2011 8:06 PM
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PS4 from sony has had most of it's specs nailed down for about 6months already. It will include a refreshed Cell processor with a few new instuctions, double the cache, all 8 cores functionable at ~4Ghz. The graphic chip will be from AMD and be roughly equal to 6870 but with a modified arch. The Blu-Ray will be sped up to a 12X drive and be able to read BDXL discs. The biggest change though will be 8 times the PS3s ram as well as a 2TB Hdd with the capability to serve as DVR with select cable providers. Also expect rear and front USB 3 ports and the controllers to be via BT 3. It will play PS3 games as well as PS2 and PSX games, but no Linux this time around. They are aiming at a lauch price of $399 but it's not set in stone yet and $449 is a real possiblity initially. Also expect 2013 holiday season not 2014.

Anonymous 07/06/2011 8:21 PM
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4th floor :
PS4 from sony has had most of it's specs nailed down for about 6months already. It will include a refreshed Cell processor with a few new instuctions, double the cache, all 8 cores functionable at ~4Ghz. The graphic chip will be from AMD and be roughly equal to 6870 but with a modified arch. The Blu-Ray will be sped up to a 12X drive and be able to read BDXL discs. The biggest change though will be 8 times the PS3s ram as well as a 2TB Hdd with the capability to serve as DVR with select cable providers. Also expect rear and front USB 3 ports and the controllers to be via BT 3. It will play PS3 games as well as PS2 and PSX games, but no Linux this time around. They are aiming at a lauch price of $399 but it's not set in stone yet and $449 is a real possiblity initially. Also expect 2013 holiday season not 2014.



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