SOPA Not Shelved After White House Petition Response
The White House has responded to petitions complaining about SOPA and Protect IP, a response that could lead to their demise.
The U.S. online piracy bill causing waves across the Internet may either receive a complete rewrite, or be tossed in the trash thanks to a White House response to several petitions over the weekend.
Just last week the legislation, known as the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the House of Representatives and the Protect IP Act (PIPA) in the Senate, saw proposed revisions by Senator Patrick Leahy and Representative Lamar Smith that would see the Domain Name System (DNS) blocking provision removed from the impending bill. But now there are talks that the revisions will need to go much deeper than previously realized (aka replacement language) if Congressional staffers don't want to receive a veto by the White House. There's a possibility that they may even need to create an entirely new bill instead.
"While we believe that online piracy by foreign websites is a serious problem that requires a serious legislative response, we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet," the Obama Administration said in a public statement.
The White House stated that the proposed laws must not tamper with the technical architecture of the Internet through manipulation of the Domain Name System (DNS). Before the proposed revisions on Friday, there were fears that users would seek out foreign DNS servers to access blacklisted sites -- a splintering of the internet's architecture, so to speak. Even the White House saw a problem, stating that "analysis of the DNS filtering provisions in some proposed legislation suggests that they pose a real risk to cybersecurity and yet leave contraband goods and services accessible online."
"New legislation must be narrowly targeted only at sites beyond the reach of current U.S. law, cover activity clearly prohibited under existing U.S. laws, and be effectively tailored, with strong due process and focused on criminal activity," the White House stated. "Any provision covering Internet intermediaries such as online advertising networks, payment processors, or search engines must be transparent and designed to prevent overly broad private rights of action that could encourage unjustified litigation that could discourage startup businesses and innovative firms from growing."
News Corp. chief Rupert Murdoch didn't appear happy about the White House response on Monday, saying that "Obama has thrown in his lot with Silicon Valley paymasters who threaten all software creators with piracy, plain thievery." He also seemingly blames Google for piracy, claiming the search engine giant "streams movies free, sells advts around them. No wonder [we're] pouring millions into lobbying."
The debate over the proposed bill is expected to intensify over the next few weeks. The White House said the organizer behind the We The People petition and a random sample of the signers will be invited to a conference call to discuss the issue further with Administration officials. After that, the White House will host an online event to get more input and answer questions about the bill.
Saturday's White House response was written by Victoria Espinel, Intellectual Property Enforcement Coordinator at Office of Management and Budget, Aneesh Chopra, U.S. Chief Technology Officer, and Howard Schmidt, Special Assistant to the President and Cybersecurity Coordinator for National Security Staff. The full response can be read here.
UPDATE: SOPA has been shelved for now.
UPDATE 2: Ok, maybe not. "House Judiciary CommitteeChairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) today said that he expects the Committee to continue its markup of the Stop Online Piracy Act in February," reports the House of Representatives.
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I am no big fan of Obama or his administration, but .. thumbs up to him/them for this!
big thumbs up for this move
Sounds reasonable, however there is a long history of people getting the backdoor shaft from politicians. They are just waiting for a little better political climate to push this, but they will not let off of it.
If anyone here trusts what the politicians say, please thumb me down.
These are just Obama political tactics..... but I think more people will see through it this year, but enough people? who knows.......
Yay!
You know the Patriot Act was introduced under a different name in the 90s. It was shot down. In 2001 they changed the name of it to Patriot Act and everyone voted for it. SOPA will be the same way. It will be adopted by the USA eventually. It will be called something else, but it will be the same thing. The US hates liberty, but loves lawyers, laws and cops.
These are just Obama political tactics..... but I think more people will see through it this year, but enough people? who knows.......
But if a republican did it, then it would be a step in the right direction, a just cause, and the right move... not just "political tactics."
Nobody likes Obama. While he appears to be siding with the internet users on this its just for votes. Soon the legislation will be rewritten with generalized shady language allowing for the government to take advantage of the loopholes and work the internet blacklist back in. Theres really no way to completely block content on the internet so intellectual property owners just need to accept that their work is always going to be stolen or pirated one way or another.
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Hip Hip Hooray
All the best Brett
But if a republican did it, then it would be a step in the right direction, a just cause, and the right move... not just "political tactics."
A republican would not even have to think about it. It would be no surprise. Because Political candidates should follow what they tell people they believe, not lie. I few months ago Obama was anti- Piracy, (against anonymous). Now hes pro Pirating because he thinks it will get him more votes. He will pull that black card if he has too.
"New legislation must be narrowly targeted only at sites beyond the reach of current U.S. law"
Does this mean they're trying to make laws that govern sites other than those in the U.S. or am I mis-interpreting that?
The only good that will come out of Obama's one term in office
A republican would not even have to think about it. It would be no surprise. Because Political candidates should follow what they tell people they believe, not lie. I few months ago Obama was anti- Piracy, (against anonymous). Now hes pro Pirating because he thinks it will get him more votes. He will pull that black card if he has too.
You realize this is how ALL politics work right? Been in America long?
These are not the Bills your looking for . . . You may proceed.
A republican would not even have to think about it. It would be no surprise. Because Political candidates should follow what they tell people they believe, not lie. I few months ago Obama was anti- Piracy, (against anonymous). Now hes pro Pirating because he thinks it will get him more votes. He will pull that black card if he has too.
Also, he's not pro-pirating now, quit making shit up to make your argument stronger:
"While we believe that online piracy by foreign websites is a serious problem that requires a serious legislative response, we will not support legislation that reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk, or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet," the Obama Administration said in a public statement."
Too bad the NDAA passed.
A republican would not even have to think about it. It would be no surprise. Because Political candidates should follow what they tell people they believe, not lie. I few months ago Obama was anti- Piracy, (against anonymous). Now hes pro Pirating because he thinks it will get him more votes. He will pull that black card if he has too.
I think people should look up who is running point on this piece of crap and then come back here and post. One is from the great state of TX.
... Now hes pro Pirating because he thinks it will get him more votes. He will pull that black card if he has too.
Personally, I do not think that any reasonable person would think that this is what this ruling is saying.
SOPA / Protect IP had some serious issues. Like the clause that anyone could get a site to take down material. Seems to me the constitution guarantees a right to a fair trial; It would seem to me that giving anyone the power to take down a site just by complaining that the site has copyrighted material violates that right to a fair trail. Nevermind the technical flaws the law had - like redirecting to a foreign DNS which is a completely trivial matter - my bet is that IF SOPA / Protect IP had survived and retained the part that gives anyone the right to take down a site would easily be ruled unconstitutional. Laws enacted by congress are not necessarily constitutional.
I think there is also indications that the WH would like something like this, however, without the clauses that would allow the internet to be dismantled by any disgruntled entity. You can bet that there would be some "disgruntled nut" who would complain about sites with no other reason other than to wreak havoc. That is where this law had the potential to be a complete failure and be abused.
Perhaps instead they will make it illegal to download copyrighted material, and empower the NSA to track complaints of such sites and the traffic from them to US citizens so that any US citizen illegally downloading copyrighted material can be caught and sent to prison for the rest of their lives like the denizens of the entertainment industry would like.
"Now hes pro Pirating because he thinks it will get him more votes."
Are you an idiot? This is the problem - people think that anti-SOPA/PIPA equals pro-pirating when it doesn't. Show me a bill that protects copyrights without infringing on basic civil liberties and I'll support it. The legislation in their current forms do not stop piracy in any way (they don't even slow it down) but they do manage to violate several civil liberties, the most obvious of which is due process.
that seems to be how the USA politics work. id obama wants to get anything passed he has to make a bill and be suddenly against it in order to make the kids (republicans) jump on it
In the USA:
PROTECT IP has NOT been shot down, and poses a similar threat to Americans.
In the EU:
ACTA is arguably worse, is almost unheard of, and will censor/filter Europeans' internet on an unprecedented level. Oh, and it will reinforce patent and seed monopolies for large corporations.
WAKE UP!!
Week old news.
We don't live in a dictatorship, it takes more than Obama to pass a bill. There were plenty of people in Congress, whether they be democrat or GOP, tea bagging, ultra conservative republican that were ready to pass this. Stop acting like it's going to change once you get your republican hero in office and the sun will shine again. The media will not allow someone that isn't a corporate puppet into office. If you have any doubts and still think Republicans are the middle class hero of some sort, keep in mind Rupert Murdoch, the billionaire who's trying to whine about piracy above, is the owner of Fox News. Every piece of "information" he puts out is going to be in his best interest.
This isn't an issue of Red vs Blue anymore. Both sides are in the pocket of private interests. They're withdrawing because this got too much public notice, but once things quiet down it will be slipped under the radar like so many things are. That's how our government works. Partisanship only serves to divide the people so they can be more easily controlled.
I still got a whiff of stinky smell coming out of this. For some reason I have a hunch Obama is full of it because he reeks of socialism.
I still got a whiff of stinky smell coming out of this. For some reason I have a hunch Obama is full of it because he reeks of socialism.
Why? Because he thought everyone should have health care? You know, a lot of non-socialist countries do this...
But, down with socialism. Not like we need public schools, roads, police and fire units, public transportation, USPS... oh.
SOPAAAAAAAAA =) in my country this is food !
Nobody likes Obama. While he appears to be siding with the internet users on this its just for votes. Soon the legislation will be rewritten with generalized shady language allowing for the government to take advantage of the loopholes and work the internet blacklist back in. Theres really no way to completely block content on the internet so intellectual property owners just need to accept that their work is always going to be stolen or pirated one way or another.
i like him, and so do many other people not addicted to faux news. this is about internet freedom, but because Rupert Murdoch supports it peopel who watch faux get a nice big biased report on how it not passig brings us closer to an athiest man on animal america... it is a bad bill with overeaching powers... hopefully it doesn't pass and if a bill does come out with this subject it'll be fair.. imagine a world where patent trolls liek apple can shut down any website on suspition of thier IP being infringed and having to show no proof of it... cause that is what you are implying you support
I am no big fan of Obama or his administration, but .. thumbs up to him/them for this!
Osama did not do this...we can thank the congress and the big companies in the US for this
Why? Because he thought everyone should have health care? You know, a lot of non-socialist countries do this... But, down with socialism. Not like we need public schools, roads, police and fire units, public transportation, USPS... oh.
Show me any country which has free public healthcare that provides better healthcare then our "not so free" healthcare in America? How about Canada with the 3-4 month wait periods for non life saving surgeries? Or Poland where hospitals are allowed to perform X number of surgeries per year and once they do, too bad for anyone else who needs an operation (except ofcourse the healthcare administration in Poland they get immediate free care at private hospitols. Cause they decide how much money to give them for operations on the public)! I've lived in Poland, I know doctors there so I know how "free" healthcare works in the real work, LIKE SHIT.
Wow, a lot of negativity here. This is a way better result than I ever expected would happen. The white house is basically saying that they support targeting foreign sites that are breaking the law but none of the other draconian measures in the bill. And they've explicitly stated that they want due process when investigating.
Sure its easy to say that eventually bad legislation will get through (and its probably true), but all we can really do is fight it every step of the way and this battle has been won (for now). And while Obama certainly isn't perfect, I definitely approve of this.
Show me any country which has free public healthcare that provides better healthcare then our "not so free" healthcare in America? How about Canada with the 3-4 month wait periods for non life saving surgeries? Or Poland where hospitals are allowed to perform X number of surgeries per year and once they do, too bad for anyone else who needs an operation (except ofcourse the healthcare administration in Poland they get immediate free care at private hospitols. Cause they decide how much money to give them for operations on the public)! I've lived in Poland, I know doctors there so I know how "free" healthcare works in the real work, LIKE SHIT.
at least here in canada you don't have to sell everything you have when you get deadly sick just to pay for health care bills
USA fails again