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Both SOPA and PIPA Shelved Due to Recent Events

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PIPA has been shelved for now due to "recent events," reports Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

In today's episode of The People Vs. SOPA/PIPA, those opposing the legislation have seemingly scored a small victory, as Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said that he's putting Sen. Patrick Leahy's (D-VT) Protect IP bill on hold due to "recent events" -- namely Blackout Day and the departure of many supporters in Congress.

But like SOPA, the bill isn't dead in the water. Instead, it has been put on hold -- AKA shelved -- for a possible rewrite in the near future. Originally the Senate was to hold a procedural vote on PIPA on Tuesday, January 24.

"In light of recent events, I have decided to postpone Tuesday's vote on the PROTECT IP Act. There's no reason that legitimate issues raised about PROTECT IP can't be resolved. Counterfeiting & piracy cost 1000s of jobs yearly. Americans rightfully expect to be fairly compensated for their work. I'm optimistic that we can reach compromise on PROTECT IP in coming weeks," he said across three separate tweets.

Support for the legislation is seemingly dwindling down in Washington, as several sponsors of the legislation, including Senators Roy Blunt, Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch and John Boozman and Marco Rubio, announced their withdrawal of support. Reports indicated that their sudden turn was due to pressure stemming from critics of the bill.

But some of them openly blamed Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid himself for rushing the Senate version of the bill (PIPA, or the Protect IP Act). Blunt said the legislation is "deeply flawed," while both Rubio and Boozman cited "unintended consequences" that could stem from the proposed law. The Senate’s top Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), even urged Reid to reconsider the bill before holding a vote on Tuesday.

"Rather than prematurely bringing the Protect IP Act to the Senate floor, we should first study and resolve the serious issues with this legislation," McConnell said late Thursday. "Considering this bill without first doing so could be counterproductive to achieving the shared goal of enacting appropriate and additional tools to combat the theft of intellectual property."

Feeling the pressure from the public and his peers, Reid decided to step back and put the legislation on hold. Naturally this is good news to opponents of the legislation. "Everyone should be pleased that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has decided not to go ahead with a vote on the Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA)," said Art Brodsky of Public Knowledge. "Simply tinkering with the details of this bill, or of its House companion, is not the way to go. Neither is a ‘summit’ between the Big Media companies and tech companies."

Some are calling for a "start from scratch" approach rather than a rewrite.

The bill's sponsor, Sen. Patrick Leahy, wasn't happy with the news on Friday, accusing the Senate of having the inability to debate competing ideas to address a problem directly affecting American jobs, American workers and American consumers.

"More time will pass with jobs lost and economies hurt by foreign criminals who are stealing American intellectual property, and selling it back to American consumers," he writes. "I understand and respect Majority Leader Reid’s decision to seek consent to vitiate cloture on the motion to proceed to the PROTECT IP Act.  But the day will come when the Senators who forced this move will look back and realize they made a knee-jerk reaction to a monumental problem."

"Somewhere in China today, in Russia today, and in many other countries that do not respect American intellectual property, criminals who do nothing but peddle in counterfeit products and stolen American content are smugly watching how the United States Senate decided it was not even worth debating how to stop the overseas criminals from draining our economy," he added.

Someone sounds a little upset.

UPDATE: The L.A. Times reports that SOPA has been shelved once again. "I have heard from the critics and I take seriously their concerns regarding proposed legislation to address the problem of online piracy," said House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith. "It is clear that we need to revisit the approach on how best to address the problem of foreign thieves that steal and sell American inventions and products."

Meanwhile, Hollywood is blasting Google for supporting anti-SOPA protests, claiming the search engine giant is distorting facts about what the bill would actually do. "The Protect IP Act does nothing more than make it possible for the U.S. government to handle illegal foreign websites in the same manner it can already do -- and has been doing -- with illegal sites," stated the unions that represent Hollywood talent. "It has no impact at all on the legal U.S. sites that people are being told will disappear."

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    rawful , January 20, 2012 8:13 PM
    What American jobs are lost to piracy? Please, this is an honest question, can someone let me know? 1000s of them are lost each year to piracy! So, what are they?
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    amk-aka-Phantom , January 20, 2012 8:06 PM
    Quote:
    "More time will pass with jobs lost and economies hurt by foreign criminals who are stealing American intellectual property, and selling it back to American consumers,"


    Correction: giving it back to American consumers for free :) 
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    anonymous32111 , January 20, 2012 8:10 PM
    "Counterfeiting & piracy cost 1000s of jobs yearly."

    Seem's like an extremely biased statistic which he probably cannot reference. Glad the battle has been put on hold for now.. the whole bill is still disgusting though. Good to know everybody more or less has the same opinion - get your dirty paws off mah internet!

    P.S - shove it MPAA/RIAA!
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    amk-aka-Phantom , January 20, 2012 8:06 PM
    Quote:
    "More time will pass with jobs lost and economies hurt by foreign criminals who are stealing American intellectual property, and selling it back to American consumers,"


    Correction: giving it back to American consumers for free :) 
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    anonymous32111 , January 20, 2012 8:10 PM
    "Counterfeiting & piracy cost 1000s of jobs yearly."

    Seem's like an extremely biased statistic which he probably cannot reference. Glad the battle has been put on hold for now.. the whole bill is still disgusting though. Good to know everybody more or less has the same opinion - get your dirty paws off mah internet!

    P.S - shove it MPAA/RIAA!
  • 29 Hide
    rawful , January 20, 2012 8:13 PM
    What American jobs are lost to piracy? Please, this is an honest question, can someone let me know? 1000s of them are lost each year to piracy! So, what are they?
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    koga73 , January 20, 2012 8:13 PM
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    The Protect IP Act does nothing more than make it possible for the U.S. government to handle illegal foreign websites in the same manner it can already do -- and has been doing -- with illegal sites

    They can't take down foreign sites which means they would have to block them effectively creating an internet blacklist. What happens when a US citizen uses a foreign DNS server or proxy to get around the blockade? Will the get thrown in Jail?!
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    therabiddeer , January 20, 2012 8:16 PM
    "The Protect IP Act does nothing more than make it possible for the U.S. government to handle illegal foreign websites in the same manner it can already do -- and has been doing -- with illegal sites,"

    If all it does is let the government do what they can already do, why does it need to be passed?
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    jdwii , January 20, 2012 8:18 PM
    This proves people at least have some what control over some things congress does.
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    Anonymous , January 20, 2012 8:18 PM
    This is just a political move.. too much heat right now.. shelve it for now.
    then bring back the bill when the people forget about it...
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    victorintelr , January 20, 2012 8:21 PM
    quote: Somewhere in China today, in Russia today, and in many other countries that do not respect American intellectual property, criminals who do nothing but peddle in counterfeit products and stolen American content are smugly watching how the United States Senate decided it was not even worth debating how to stop the overseas criminals from draining our economy," he added.

    obviously these people are still living in the cold war. the problem in not concentrated there anymore, it's global! sure they want and think that there 30 year old speech is gonna still work, but doesn't look like it does anymore.
    sorry for the quote, I'm writing from my thrive tablet,
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    bak0n , January 20, 2012 8:22 PM
    I am not a fan of the MPAA or the RIAA. I'm also not a fan of SOPA or PIPA. I'd also like nothing more than to see all 4 of these fail horribly as they are all out of touch with modern consumerism and loaded with unnecessary greed harming and pissing off consumers.

    The reality is however, people do lose jobs from piracy. If businesses don't make their target "profit margins" they will and do lay people off. THQ cited their bankruptcy and layoffs was directly due to the pirating of Titan Quest series.

    I'd love to see industries involved go to a model like Steam or GOG. It would benefit all involved.
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    Dandalf , January 20, 2012 8:27 PM
    Thousands of jobs are lost to piracy? Millions were lost to your economic recession, Mr Rich Man.
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    alxianthelast , January 20, 2012 8:41 PM
    Should have been drafted as Protect-Distribution but that would have involved refining how media is distributed so cut rate and ignoring that distribution is generally how IP gets pirated in the first place. No comment on how to make distribution media pirate and hacker proof.. but it is a much better place to start.
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    MarioJP , January 20, 2012 8:48 PM
    Wow this just shows how clueless these people are. I am so glad this bill did not fall through. People like that guy would result an a scary world to live in. These people have no consideration for the working class trying to make ends meet. I guess most of you on here have lost the basic right of LIVING. The recession is what's hurting everybody, people are not spending money on movies or things that are not a NECESSITY. What if everybody decided not to spend anymore money on entertainment, mindless things that we can live without. Is it still Piracy Mr.Rich Man??.
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    classzero , January 20, 2012 8:49 PM
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    Both SOPA and PIPA Shelved Due to Recent Events


    I've heard this before. I suspect they will sneak it in under the radar attached to another Bill.
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    Anonymous , January 20, 2012 9:20 PM
    bak0nI am not a fan of the MPAA or the RIAA. I'm also not a fan of SOPA or PIPA. I'd also like nothing more than to see all 4 of these fail horribly as they are all out of touch with modern consumerism and loaded with unnecessary greed harming and pissing off consumers. The reality is however, people do lose jobs from piracy. If businesses don't make their target "profit margins" they will and do lay people off. THQ cited their bankruptcy and layoffs was directly due to the pirating of Titan Quest series.I'd love to see industries involved go to a model like Steam or GOG. It would benefit all involved.


    I'm still not convinced. The people that never purchased the title, and pirated it, most likely would have never purchased it if pirated copies were unavailable. Look at HAWX 2. It was so bad, nobody bothered to crack it, and nobody bothered to buy it either as a result of it being largely unavailable to the pirate community.

    The only thing that is for certain though, is that THQ failed to produce a product (Titan Quest) that was compelling enough to purchase.

    Anyway, back to the article. I'm glad this has all been put on hold. I'm still not convinced that piracy of data, cleverly arranged combinations of 1s and 0s (games/mp3s), has any huge impact. There's no physical medium that's been taken from a store shelf that would represent a loss of income for the creators and retailers. I'm still going with the assumption that people would pass on purchasing regardless of its availability on the net.

    I'm a reformed pirate. I'm much more selective about the titles I really want to play, and purchase them. I no longer feel like I need to "try out" every new release to see if I like it. I stick to website reviews and gameplay videos on sites like youtube.
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    Hellbound , January 20, 2012 9:24 PM
    They are being shelved because its an election year.... Nobody wants to lose their job for passing it. Nothing more.
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    buckcm , January 20, 2012 9:29 PM
    I might be more sympathetic if games or movies making more would actually help anybody but the highest in the company. It's one thing if a game does extremely poorly and puts a company out of business, but it's another thing for games or movies to sell very well and are pirated a large amount.

    The worker sees no benefit if the game sells twice as many copies, and actually I think the same lay-off after a big release will happen due to the majority of the work being done on a game (only patches and maintenance need to be done after the big release). I think the bigger factor of piracy is whether or not to include PC in the next release because as compared to going out of business.
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    SteelCity1981 , January 20, 2012 9:36 PM
    Let freedom of infomation reign!!!!!!!
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    __-_-_-__ , January 20, 2012 9:37 PM
    rawfulWhat American jobs are lost to piracy? Please, this is an honest question, can someone let me know? 1000s of them are lost each year to piracy! So, what are they?

    if SOPA is approved I lose my job. that's for sure.
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    wild9 , January 20, 2012 10:24 PM
    This stuff is never dropped. The methodology just becomes even more subvert. Its' the same reason the Mexican border is a joke despite the bloodshed and carnage. You will see this come back through a back-door policy, it's never over. Why do you think the US border with Mexico has been such a joke, for so long? Because politicians say one thing and do the opposite. Don't just keep your eye on one thing, either; like devious slags operating within British government, they will use one issue to divert attention away from another. Obama still has the North American Union in his agenda, still wants to jack of 'green' taxes, still wants open borders with Mexico despite the carnage, bloodshed and drugs.

    They've put the legislation on hold. Remember that. Remember that all they need now is the right catalyst. Remember that this is not the only plan they have up their sleeve.
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    zybch , January 20, 2012 10:34 PM
    "Meanwhile, Hollywood is blasting Google for supporting anti-SOPA protests, claiming the search engine giant is distorting facts about what the bill would actually do. "The Protect IP Act does nothing more than make it possible for the U.S. government to handle illegal foreign websites in the same manner it can already do -- and has been doing -- with illegal sites,""

    So according to that, SOPA/PIPA actually does nothing?
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