Man Tries to Frame Coworker With Child Porn
Planting child pornography on a co-worker's computer probably isn't the best way to receive a promotion.
A 39-year-old east London handyman tried to get a promotion by framing his co-worker with child pornography.
The "wickedly evil and vile plot" was devised by Neil Weiner. In order to get 62-year-old school caretaker Eddie Thompson out of the picture, Weiner anonymously sent police a CD containing 177 indecent images of children, claiming that the files were taken from Thompson's laptop. The police took the bait and confiscated the device--235 additional offensive pictures were discovered on the hard drive.
Despite his pleas of innocence and claims of being framed, Thompson was arrested.
Released on bail and awaiting the impending trial, Thompson and his family were afraid to show up in public due to receiving various threats. Thompson also said that--after returning from suspension to Swanlea secondary school in Whitechapel, east London--he was shunned by "almost all" of the staff.
"My life and good name was nearly destroyed by a villain who tried to destroy my reputation in a monstrous manner," he said.
Charges were dropped eight months after his arrest. The local authorities tracked an additional, anonymous call from Weiner back to his mobile phone. Further investigations showed that Weiner--deemed as a computer wizard--planted the images on Thompson's laptop. Prosecuting attorney Richard Milne surmised that the plot was carried out "for no better reason than to get him the sack, and because he did not like him."
Apparently the plan had been in the works for some time. Testimonies revealed that Weiner had spoken at a barbecue, displaying his dislike for Thompson and how he wanted to put child porn on the man's laptop so he would be fired. Some of the images that were actually used were level 4, the second most serious.
Weiner was eventually convicted of "perverting the course of justice" along with two counts of possessing indecent images of children. He was placed on the sex offenders' list and now faces a possible long prison sentence when he returns to court on September 23.
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Bewn, Bewn, Bewn... ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!
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I wondered how long it would be before something like this happened. This guy might well have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for (no, not the meddling kids) but his big mouth (you'd be surprised how many criminals are caught this way).
This is why I do not like contraband laws (i.e. you can be jailed just for having something regardless of motive, intent or how it got there).
Make possession of child porn a minor offense (only requiring a fine). Make possession of child porn by a registered sex offender a felon. Make distribution of child porn a misdemeanor. Make PRODUCTION of child porn an automatic life sentence with no possibility of parole.
Scary how easily that guy could've gotten away with it. I don't know if police in the U.S. would go that extra mile to make sure a suspect is guilty or not. His reputation is still probably ruined forever.
What a TRUE PRICK..
Sociopaths are all around us.
Scary how easily that guy could've gotten away with it. I don't know if police in the U.S. would go that extra mile to make sure a suspect is guilty or not. His reputation is still probably ruined forever.
No, they wouldn't. The job of the police and the DA's office is to collect evidence of a crime and prosecute it, not to actually discover the truth. If you want that, you have to spend huge amounts of your own money and hope the jury believes your expert. In these cases, however, most people on the jury are ready to castrate you without a trial. Think about all of the people that you see in the news that are arrested for possession of child porn. Now, how many of those are innocent people whose computer's were infected with malware and used as a server without their knowledge. Police and DA's are afraid of that becoming a common defense, so they downplay the likelihood of that happening and claim that they can rule that out definitely. But most of us on TH know better. Some of that malware is EXTREMELY sophisticated and easily capable of defeating AV software and going completely undetected.
It's scary how close this came to working... or maybe he really did have child porn on his machine and this was a successful "I didn't do it."
Either way its better to er on the safe side since they can't prove he did do it. Now if they can prove that the guy DID plant this child porn on this other guys machine.... He should be charged with distributing child porn and all the nice goodies that come along with that charge...
The innocent one (which ever one it is) is probably ruined for life. So they should be able to sue the actual offender for huge damages to set an example for anyone else contemplating some set up like this.
The true monsters are his friends and colleagues who were ready to throw him to the dogs. I don`t think I`d want to be friends with these people even after of being cleared of charges.
No, they wouldn't. The job of the police and the DA's office is to collect evidence of a crime and prosecute it, not to actually discover the truth. If you want that, you have to spend huge amounts of your own money and hope the jury believes your expert. In these cases, however, most people on the jury are ready to castrate you without a trial. Think about all of the people that you see in the news that are arrested for possession of child porn. Now, how many of those are innocent people whose computer's were infected with malware and used as a server without their knowledge. Police and DA's are afraid of that becoming a common defense, so they downplay the likelihood of that happening and claim that they can rule that out definitely. But most of us on TH know better. Some of that malware is EXTREMELY sophisticated and easily capable of defeating AV software and going completely undetected.
Or even getting 'cp-rick rolled' and ending up with crap like that in your cache. It why I never ever click tinyurl/pic links, regardless of how much I trust the site the link is on.
So all I have to do is anonymously send a CD and a phone directory and nobody in London will have a Laptop for a few months.
Scary how easily that guy could've gotten away with it. I don't know if police in the U.S. would go that extra mile to make sure a suspect is guilty or not. His reputation is still probably ruined forever.
Yeah i think " Innocent until proven guilty" doesnt mean much when your guilty of a crime just by having bits of information on your machine. The fact that they dont have to prove it was you that put it there in this day and age of cyber attacks and nasty malware is pretty bad.
Waiting for the day when malware puts CP on your computer then notifies the police with your information.
Is it better to jail an innocent man or let a guilty man walk free?
Some of that malware is EXTREMELY sophisticated and easily capable of defeating AV software and going completely undetected.
Yet another reason to NOT run a Microsoft operating system.
So all I have to do is anonymously send a CD and a phone directory and nobody in London will have a Laptop for a few months.
Better yet send a CD with auto play some sort of web page content with all those nasty pics to the police then call some sort of higher ups and tell them the other ones have child porn on the machines and that its stored in the browser cache... of course they would hunt you down to the ends of the earth and probably do things to you... bad bad things.... lol
It should be law to obligate these bastards to help police finds more child pornography and who's making it.
Is it better to jail an innocent man or let a guilty man walk free?
I'd much rather the guilty walked free. What's worse, getting robbed and the criminal getting away or getting falsely convicted of robbing somebody?
Make possession of child porn a minor offense (only requiring a fine). Make possession of child porn by a registered sex offender a felon. Make distribution of child porn a misdemeanor. Make PRODUCTION of child porn an automatic life sentence with no possibility of parole.
Certainly seems reasonable, but one might argue that if you lessen the penalties for possession, then you would potentially increase the demand, and/or the likelihood of inducing additional people to seek it out that might not have with harsher penalties.
Of course, if you're the sort of derelict that's after kiddie pr0n, you're probably going to find it no matter the penalty. Gross.
That loser had to look at over 400 nude pics of kids to find the materials. Lol@'computer wizard', I like how being able to copy and paste from a usb stick makes you one.
Better yet send a CD with auto play some sort of web page content with all those nasty pics to the police then call some sort of higher ups and tell them the other ones have child porn on the machines and that its stored in the browser cache... of course they would hunt you down to the ends of the earth and probably do things to you... bad bad things.... lol
haha yah, i bet you wouldn't see any news or info if the police department was loaded with child porn.
who knows how often this happens...not everywhere in the world are the police as trained as in the states especially concerning cyber crime/child porn....just finding pics on a pc should only warrant suspiscion and an investigation..not a charge, thats ridiculous..chil porn is a very emotional subject we have to be careful when dealing with it
Is it better to jail an innocent man or let a guilty man walk free?
Let the guilty go free, cause someone who commits a crime will most likely do it again, so they will get caught, but the innocent person could lose a large part of their life over something they did not do.
You wonder why people go "postal" in the work place. This takes it to a whole new level. If any man sabotaged my career and reputation in such a brutal manner, all I can say is he would be in a coma for the rest of his life.
What a sick bastard, I hope he rots in prison and his anus gets violated by big black meat everyday.
What a TRUE PRICK..
His name says it all! "Weiner" With a name like that he will be a popular one in prison!
Die a slow painful death Weiner!
1. i think regular porn would have done the job
2. at least he the guy that did it still has that voice in his head telling him "thats not right"
3. there are "levels" to that stuff?!?!?
1. i think regular porn would have done the job2. at least he the guy that did it still has that voice in his head telling him "thats not right"3. there are "levels" to that stuff?!?!?
1) Having normal porn on his machine would not be illegal, which is the whole point. It wasn't a work machine (he was a janitor).
3) I thought the same thing.
"Make possession of child porn a minor offense (only requiring a fine). Make possession of child porn by a registered sex offender a felon. Make distribution of child porn a misdemeanor. Make PRODUCTION of child porn an automatic life sentence with no possibility of parole."
Can you really be serious about this ?? making possession minor offence would just fuel the sicko's that create the chil porn in the first place.
I dont think anyone can possiby jusity creating / possession or distribution being anything other that a very serious offence. What if someone had pictures of your child ?? are you trying to say its ok just give them a fine ? like heel you would - there isnt on person on here who wouldnt seriously consider giving the offender a serous beating.
I suspect you could have detected the scam just by looking at the file dates. I'll bet the several hundred porn files all suddenly just showed up at the same date and time.
I don't think people who get off on child porn are going to be deterred by a possible fine.
The real issue has been stated, already: For crimes like this, an accusation is almost equivalent to a conviction. Lives are ruined. Pleas of innocence are useless. How do you proof you didn't download the pictures?
A friend (psycho therapist) told me a story of an anti-aggression workshop for kids (5-8 yrs old) where he helped out a psychologist friend of his. One day, some parents and the police show up. Their kid claimed the psychologist "touched him". How the kid knew how to make something like that up, at this age, is beyond me. But only because my friend had been there and stated that at no time were any of the kids alone with either of them, and the fact that the kid eventually said it had made up the story, did nothing come of it.
I bet, the guys saw his life flash before his eyes. How do you defend yourself against something like that. One of my worst nightmares.
1. i think regular porn would have done the job2. at least he the guy that did it still has that voice in his head telling him "thats not right"3. there are "levels" to that stuff?!?!?
Normal adult porn is not an issue. Almost any normal adult (men and women - mostly men) have porn. Even Sports Illustrated can be considered somewhat porn...
But yeah, after this article - I looked up the levels, I didn't bother locating the UK level - but found a "level" from Wikipedia. Which has a scale 1-10 (10 being worst). So that is a bit more detailed. But in general, most of that should get in you in prison.
Lower levels = having a bunch of PICS of kids. ie: a guy is a perv if he has 1000 photos of kids at park, pool, etc - clothes or swim-wear, etc. Compared to a father who has 5000 photos of his own children.
In the age of digital cameras, as parents - we easily have tens of thousands of photos of our kids.
Looking at the levels chart (no examples shown - duh, pervert!) - there are some nasty people out there. I've read articles in mags-etc about cops barfing at some evidence they find. Prison is a BAD place to be a pedophile... and a child killer = death anyway.
I suspect you could have detected the scam just by looking at the file dates. I'll bet the several hundred porn files all suddenly just showed up at the same date and time.
Yep, that would be a dead give away. But that can depend on HOW good the "computer expert is". As an investigator - if the person is claiming "framed" - I'd look at:
Creation dates, move dates, and location on the drives.
I save art, photos and articles off the internet. Because its over years - their storage would show a mixed history. As compared to hundreds of files grouped together... I'm talking looking at the files by sectors if you have to.. as well as deletions.
BTW: checkout interfacelift.com for awesome free backgrounds - or just for viewing. I've been going to this site for about a year on and off. Usage like that would show actual USE, not dropped.
PS: If / when an infected computer is moving CP - that person should not be found guilty. But in the USA - we have idiots. Like the courts putting teens (12~16) into a legal nightmare as sex criminals for taking photos of themselves with cameras and sending them out. Duh, their KIDS! doing stupid kid things.