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Teen Shoots Self After Leaving Facebook Updates

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Our question of the week is: Should we be more sensitive about people say in the public forum, be it aggressive or depressive?

With online expression more publicized than ever with Facebook and Twitter, should there be more care given to those who express depression or suicidal thoughts? The issue comes to light when a 18-year-old, who had plans for medical school, shot himself after leaving depressing messages on his Facebook page.

His last batch of status updates read: "Never take life seriously - no one ever gets out alive anyway," and "My life is so pathetic."

Family and peers were shocked by the news, as they expressed to the Daily Mail what a pleasant lad he was and how he had everything going for him.

The problem is that many people may update their public status with some form of discouraged thoughts after some kind of unfavourable outcome, such as a failed exam, so it'd be understandably hard to differentiate between something that is and isn't suicidal.

So far, aggressive status updates are taken very seriously. Threats transmitted over Twitter have resulted in the police getting involved, and in some cases actually charged. For example, there was a man who claimed that he was only joking when he tweeted about blowing an airport sky-high.

Google has also taken steps towards sensitivity. Those who search for suicide related things get a hotline number returned as the top result.

We'd like to open up this discussion to you. Our question of the week is: Should we be more sensitive about people say in the public forum, be it aggressive or depressive?

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Marco925 04/17/2010 2:33 AM
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Quote :Google has also taken steps towards sensitivity. Those who search for suicide related things get a hotline number returned as the top result.


I guess some band who wishes to call themselves suicide, or poison control won't be getting top priority on google anymore.

Anonymous 04/17/2010 2:36 AM
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I just googled "how to slash your wrists" and there was no hotline number, just alot of results on how to kill yourself the fastest. google lied to you.

tsnorquist 04/17/2010 2:37 AM
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After watching the recent South Park episode highlighting "Facebook", I can't take any Facebook related news seriously.

I guess the lad lost in Yahtzee. /rip

vigilantzhu 04/17/2010 2:53 AM
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This is a sad thing, hope the guy would fine some peace in the afterlife.

Kelavarus 04/17/2010 3:00 AM
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I don't get why people automatically think that because to their perception "they had everything going for them" it must be so to the person, as well. It's really an insensitive thing to say, and really just shows that they didn't know what the person was really thinking.

I hope they find what they're looking for in whatever comes.

descendency 04/17/2010 3:00 AM
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"killing oneself" doesn't return a number to help me :(

soldier37 04/17/2010 3:09 AM
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Now if only criminals would tweet what their about to break into and steal we would all be better off!

tenor77 04/17/2010 3:19 AM
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The problem is that everyone is too wrapped up in themselves on FB to even notice.
His posts probably got buried by updates on what someone is now a fan of to be noticed.

vaughn2k 04/17/2010 3:22 AM
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Our question of the week is: Should we be more sensitive about people say in the public forum, be it aggressive or depressive?

No. Its their life. To each his own.

grillz9909 04/17/2010 3:23 AM
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I would probably kill myself before I updated Facebook and he updated Facebook before he killed himself. Weird.

sliem 04/17/2010 3:28 AM
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Always be nice to anyone, anywhere, except assholes.

N19h7M4r3 04/17/2010 3:29 AM
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HalJordan 04/17/2010 3:45 AM
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Words are cheap...a few extra kind words to a person on the edge could bring them back.

Hupiscratch 04/17/2010 3:48 AM
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vcbb10 04/17/2010 3:58 AM
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I've been through some depression (ok, a lot), and I've posted very negative status updates on my facebook before, including some updates that were suicidal in nature, when I was suicidal. It's easy to just click a link, leave a page and forget about what you read about a friend. I'm not saying call the cops or whatever, but I think it is certainly important to take action when you read something very negative online. It's amazing what a phone call, or a simple message on facebook can do. It really can save a life. Just ask what they are up to, or strike up a worthless conversation, then slowly try to figure out what is wrong. That's what people have done for me, and I've also done it for other people, and it really helps.

zybch 04/17/2010 4:00 AM
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So this guy would nicely fit the definition of "an hero" right? (look it up).

vcbb10 04/17/2010 4:00 AM
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Also watch for patterns, or continued postings of negative thoughts, comments, etc. It's hard for people to admit when they are depressed, and having a friend talk to them, and help them through tough spots does help.

tpho2500 04/17/2010 4:08 AM
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Somehow they will pin this on violent video games.

tipoo 04/17/2010 4:12 AM
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Huh, I always thought that first quote was meant to be a joke.

vcbb10 04/17/2010 4:17 AM
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As for the comments left by this person on fb, it would be really hard to read between the lines on those two comments. Unless you really knew what the person was going through, and what would make them that upset, reading those two comments would probably not always make me talk to them and try to help. People always joke about being on 'suicide watch' when something bad happens to people, but it isn't always a joke.

FUtomNOreg 04/17/2010 4:18 AM
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Next week: FB troll pretends to be suicidal.

Something I find an interesting is that some people want to die because they have no control over their lives; the cure, intervene - throw them in a mental hospital for a couple of weeks(or until they stop telling the truth) and force meds down their throats. This of course cures the feeling of no control.

dreamphantom_1977 04/17/2010 4:29 AM
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+1 for toms hardware/guide for caring. Yes, take notice. The only hard part is telling the difference between who is joking, who is having a bad day, and who is serious. The biggest problem is most of the people who commit suicide try and hide there feelings until the last few moments, then they might try to reach out, or they might not. Some of us are just dark naturally, and some are happy most of the time. The best thing to do is to try and notice "changes" in there normal behavior.

If you think someone is suicidal, then maybe it's time to try and hang out with them for awhile and try and take there mind off of it. Give them a little guidance.

Obviously, you can't save everyone.

vcbb10 04/17/2010 4:35 AM
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FUtomNOreg :
Next week: FB troll pretends to be suicidal.Something I find an interesting is that some people want to die because they have no control over their lives; the cure, intervene - throw them in a mental hospital for a couple of weeks(or until they stop telling the truth) and force meds down their throats. This of course cures the feeling of no control.



Ha Ha Ha. Just chuck them in a mental hospital and throw meds down there throat? Sounds easy enough. It's easy to be sarcastic about things you know nothing about. I've been to a mental hospital, and it actually does help. And I've been on just about every anti-depressant you can name. Not funny to me though.

FUtomNOreg 04/17/2010 4:59 AM
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vcbb10 :
Ha Ha Ha. Just chuck them in a mental hospital and throw meds down there throat? Sounds easy enough. It's easy to be sarcastic about things you know nothing about. I've been to a mental hospital, and it actually does help. And I've been on just about every anti-depressant you can name. Not funny to me though.



You think I haven't been there? Well I haven't tried every anti-depressant because I very quickly realized that they can't help.

Story:

Have issue and naively ask shrink for help - refuse the treatment because it wasn't that major - police turn up at my house and drag me to hospital - refuse to take medication and get held down and injected - shut up and relinquish freedom to get released - spend the next two years pretending to take medication because they imposed a "community order" on me.

Never lost coherence and I never even said I was going to hurt myself.


(BTW: Borrowed account)

Dkz 04/17/2010 5:16 AM
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Selfish.
The only ones who suffer are the once left behind.

vcbb10 04/17/2010 5:21 AM
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@FUtomNOreg

You got screwed.

MDillenbeck 04/17/2010 5:22 AM
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Quote :Our question of the week is: Should we be more sensitive about people say in the public forum, be it aggressive or depressive?


While I think the humanistic gut response is "of course", I also have a nauseating feeling that this would translate to "walk on eggshells and post nothing that would hurt anyone's delicate sensibilities".

In other words, reconcile this one: say something about God that will not offend or insult a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Satanist, an Atheist, and so forth. It is impossible.

In Why Apple Fans Hate Tech Reporters Tuan nicely pointed out that it is far too easy for a person to read into an article either a positive reinforcement or negative threat into what could be considered a neutral series of comments. In light of that nature of human psychology, I question whether so many comments are negative/aggressive or whether they are merely perceived as such by a negative/aggressive person.

However, I am also all for system where people are not granted anonymity for their comments. In other words, an IID (internet identification) that is used to positively identify a poster, might go a long way to restoring civility to the internet. Of course, like a newspaper I think a site should be allowed to allow a post to be anonymous (although the site must have a record of who the poster was in case law enforcement needs to get involved). ...wow, how oddly conservative of me - something I think I have been accused of being, um, never.

bak0n 04/17/2010 5:30 AM
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The narcsissism that runs rampant through fourms, (including this one) has its impact on individuals who are going through periods of difficulty or have a "mental disability".

Should people be more sensitive? Yes, Will they be? No chance, this is only going to get worse.

wonspur 04/17/2010 5:29 AM
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An unfortunate thing to happen, its hard to think positive and thats what this person lacked. I dont mean to mock him but to make a point, think positive and positive things will happen...has worked for me for years...or you can think negative and negative things will happen...that also works..if you are into that sort of thing.

Anonymous 04/17/2010 5:39 AM
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@monkeh
I just googled "how to slash your wrists" as u did and the first line i get is this :
Tip: Save time by hitting the return key instead of clicking on "search"
loool

welshmousepk 04/17/2010 5:39 AM
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i hate it when relatives say stuff like 'he had everything going for him'.

obviously not. and its incredibly insulting to say that about someone who has just taken their own life.

at the end of the day though, i believe a person should have the rights to end their life if they wish too, though it would have been better for all involved if any of his so called family or friends had paid attention to his messages and made some attempt to console him.