I never expected this !

First class shocker.

As a resident of "sorta China" (Hong Kong), I am not at all surprised... Who really expected it to be otherwise?

So skynet is chinese ?

Harvard, number 1 in presidents and porn.

What a supr... not worth it...

The founder knows very good what the Green Dam will block.
Porn and ...the real reason for green dam...
political content such as human rights e.g. Tibet.

Porn is just a cover up to let us believe it suppose to do something good. Hopefully those dirty politicians are going to get Green Dammed themselves and have to get rid of it.

The people really should get rid of their government for this.

i am not at all surprised

Surprising? Not really, they're still partially communistic, and as for overthrowing.....Leader=God because Government=army. It's hard to start a rebellion when the government in the military and the "President" has a secret police, so you don't like him? You "disappear."

Well now blocking political content just shows this is: Just another brick in the Green Dam.

at least it has a nice sounding name..`green dam`

i would call it `red with gold stars mind F"#K!`

What!? No porn for E-porn for China? This is clearly a violation of human rights! Nothing China has ever done before has been this sick! We must free those poor innocent Chinese people from such tyranny!

I never realized that China was so progressive/butt backwards that they had a large number of gay politicians. That is a surprise.


I'm also glad that they will be blocking porn...now Chinese hackers will be hacking THEIR government!!!!

Interesting this keeps showing up in news. As a Communist country you can't really expect them to conform to the way free countries operate. They really can make their own rules and laws, they don't hold need to hold anyone's hand.

Nuclearshadow, I just gave you a negative comment but upon further consideration I'm thinking my internet-sarcasm detector was malfunctioning. If so, sorry.

Not that I speak for Communism or Capitalism but just to clarify, free speech has nothing to do with either model.

I know most people associate dictatorships with Communism because those are the only individuals who have tried to run a country as such but just take it for what it is, corrupt individuals (leaders). Communism has nothing to do with 'silencing' the public but those dictators who vouch for the model take advantage of the power they acquire through Communism to control their population. In other words, leaders under Capitalist systems have tried to 'silence' their public as well as the ones under Capitalist systems. A Capitalist system isn't necessarily free from tyranny.

On topic, China is renowned for their censorship through coercion to protect political interests so, no, the topic isn't new but hopefully some headway can be made through this new initiative.

The "Add or Remove Programs" is always available for use...

You are so wrong on this from the beginning. You need to read Adam Smith and Karl Marx to understand fundamental differences of how capitalist and communist societies function. The former is about economic freedom and private ownership, which leads to demand for rule of law, and will eventually develop into free society and civil liberty; the later is all about class warfare and control of production means as basis for wealth redistribution (to party members, of course). You can't run a capitalist society with an iron fist, and you can't run a communist society without one.

Isn't this the modern-day equivilent of burning books...? Guess we should all go prepare for ChiNazis

They probably filtered out Sarah Palin thinking it was porn and then just decided to go for all politicians since images of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pilosi should be against the law as well.

Yet somehow the US seem to manage just fine right now...

Let's face it, although China is a little extreme on content filtering, you don't have absolutely free browsing rights ANYWHERE. Try searching for roadside bomb videos, REAL Osama speaches, or US prison torture pictures / videos and just see for yourself how tough it is.

I wouldn't compare this to book burning. I would say it's the systematic manipulation of a population to only hear government approved information.

Hey, there's another good one, although Karl Marx is associated as being "The Father of Communism", what Marx was talking about is closer to Marxism than Communism.

On another note, you identified the logical flaw in blaming Communism for the lack of free speech in China before I could. The key as you said is "you can't run a communist society without one (an iron fist)", what does that have to do with Communism? Nothing. But its that very mindset that sets up leaders to abuse the governing power they are given to run a Communist state.

Its like saying the only way to get "well-behaved" (disciplined) children is to beat them. As common knowledge, we most know that discipline has nothing to do with physical force but it is often used as a mechanism to achieve a level of discipline. Same principal applies here. Communism isn't about oppressing the public under it, its the exact opposite but it relies too heavily on a non-corrupt and infallible governing body to reach its objective. As a result you see all Communist states run along this "iron fist" mindset and lose respect for the model, but arguably, these leaders aren't concerned with achieving a non-oppressive political economy but after their own interests (in other words, they use Communism as an excuse for their abuse of power).

Win

I'm sorry, I forgot to address another one of your points.

Your explanation of Capitalism is devoid of its flaws while the one of Communism is relies only on its flaws.

I won't bother pointing out the Capitalist systems flaws but I'll clarify the Communist definition as it is lacking in accuracy. Communism is about achieving class equality (and not class warfare), maintaining control of the means of production to prevent abuse (and not for government benefit) in an effort to avoid a discrimination in a class-based society. Historically, has class warfare occured in these so-called Communist states? Absolutely. Many other awful injustices have occured as well but it was never what the Communist model was about, otherwise you'd never have any part of the public support for it.

Reminds me of an Office episode. Where Ryan creates a blog for Creed and all it is, is a Word document which he thinks is somehow interconnected to the web. Soon in China, their web is basically going to be a Word document and users can search that Word document.

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Stop bitching.
Not a single one of you will likely do a thing about it, thus discussing it is devoid of any purpose.
Saying "save the planet" while driving a hummer is the same thing...

The people will find a way around this.

?? But its a discussion board, that's what its here for...lol.

Oh, and about your "save the planet" comment, you may want to familiarize yourself with the "Tu Quoque" fallacy.

Just read Communist Manifesto and realize how ridiculously ignorant you sound like:
http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/ [...] festo.html

Oh, BTW, don't forget to read On Capitalism by Karl Marx. Marxism IS Communism, in theory, in practice and in reality, Period.

You don't understand why is there classes in any society, even the Communist ones. Anyone who believes class equality is a fucking idiot. You don't understand why economic system has to be set up. You also don't understand how things are traded and how values are defined in this process. In the end, you don't understand why communism have to be practiced through the barrels of guns, and there is no alternatives to achieve that without execution squad and secret police. If you deny this is inevitable result of communism, then you should share your property with me, since I am a proletariat.

What you are doing here, is white washing a pile of shit. No matter how hard you try, it still stinks.

Wrong, I am plainly explaining what capitalism and what communism are respectively. And, yes, communism is about class warfare. Karl Marx wrote in his words (class struggle), in On Capitalism as well as Communist Manifesto.

Capitalism is not without its flaw. One major flaw of purest form of capitalism is lack of foresight on how losers in economic games can cause so much trouble. Just like Democracy, capitalism isn't perfect, but just better than any other model that has been tried.

The one of the direct results of communist catastrophe is Chinese commies are still putting censorship to Chinese dissidents, FLG, Free Tibet and other things they don't like. Generally speaking, the freedom of speech is still better than the day of true communism, when even slightest oral discontent will make your way into Laogai camp. Commies are now on the defensive in all front. They can no longer arrest people for oral discontent. They have no power to dictate how people should think anymore. That's just how economic freedom has changed China in the past 30 years, and you haven't seen the real change yet. This is actually a living model of how economic freedom will eventually leads to political freedom.

Too easy actually. Really if that is your only argument to make the US be ran with a iron fist you fail hard.

Commies aren't interested in blocking indecent, obscene, violent or inappropriate content for mentally weak, young or finicky. They are only interested in blocking political dissent, minority rights, religion rights and demand for political freedom. Pornography is just an excuse. Anyone from China can tell you just how easy it is to get porn from the Internet in China. They only block most famous sites such as Hustler, Penthouse or Playboy.