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Taking Google+ for a Test Drive

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

We dive right into Google's latest social networking venture...

Google’s past dalliances with social networking have not been successful. Between Orkut, Buzz and Wave, to say social networking is Mountain View’s Achilles heel would be pretty accurate. However, that hasn’t stopped the company from trying and, this year, newly-appointed CEO Larry Page made a ballsy move in announcing employee bonuses will partially depend on the company’s success in the social arena. So, will Google employees be getting their bonuses this year? We think yes.

The search giant this week launched a full assault on Facebook in the form of Google+. Access is via invitation only so a lot of people haven’t yet had the chance to give G+ a shot. While the videos Google put out explaining each feature are decent, they’re a little confusing without context. I received my invite yesterday morning and went hands on with the service to see if I could figure out how things work.

Adding Friends (and Strangers)

From the short time we’ve spent with the service, it feels like a mashup of Facebook and Twitter in that it incorporates both people you do and don’t know. Google+’s Circles feature allows you to very quickly and easily separate out your friends and followers into different groups. You can then choose to share content with specific Circles or people (even just one person), all of your Circles or even the entire web. You can make your own Circles too, so sharing game times, practices and photos with just your softball team is easy and the rest of us don’t have to feel guilty because we bailed after one game.


It’s a level of functionality that certainly exists within Facebook if you really want it. Through the use of groups, pages and custom status updates, you can pretty much achieve the same thing within your network of Facebook friends. Unfortunately, Facebook users have not had these selective sharing features since launch -- they were introduced over time, as Facebook evolved. As a result, most either aren’t familiar with them or couldn’t be bothered to create groups and divide their 200 contacts up accordingly.

I mentioned something earlier about 'followers' and sharing with the internet, and it’s true, Google+ is definitely not just for friends; there's a very public, community aspect to it if you choose to embrace it and it can be confusing when you first arrive. I wasn’t sure what the idea was when I signed up. Facebook encourages you to only add people you know, while Twitter encourages you to follow all people you are interested in hearing from or about. Google+ is a mix of both and offers a level of control that leaves you comfortable with the set up. For example, I invited our own Kevin Parrish to join G+, and he quickly accepted and added me to his Circles (I can’t see which one he added me to, those are for his eyes only). I received a notification to this effect; I am now in Kevin’s Circles, but he is not in mine because I have not 'followed' or added him to one. From my Circles dashboard, I could add Kevin to as many or as few circles as I wanted. I could also add him to none. If I chose to add him to no circles, he would still see my public updates, but any updates restricted to friends, family, tech, acquaintances, etc., would be hidden from him and I would see none of his updates. I chose to add Kevin, because I am lovely and I want to see what he has to say. Now he can see anything I post to my ‘Friends’ or ‘Nerds&Geeks’ Circles.

If, for some strange reason, I didn't like Kevin and wasn't comfortable with him being near me (even on the internet), I could block him. He would still be able to see stuff I post publicly and I would remain in his Circle (he would not be prevented from 'following' my public posts) but he would be removed from all of my Circles and my extended Circles -- people who are one degree removed from me -- and he would not be able to comment on anything I post or mention/tag me in his own posts.

Hanging Out, Huddling, +1ing, Building Walls and Turning Down the Noise

So, Circles is the basic add friends/follow tool. What about the rest of it? One of the features proving to be the most popular (or at least garnering the most 'This is so awesome!' updates) is Hangout. Hangout allows you to start video chats with up to 10 people at a time. Who's allowed to join is completely dependent on who you've 'shared' that hangout with. If it's public, anyone (and I mean anyone -- Larry Page and Sergey Brin were floating around my feed yesterday afternoon) can join. You can also start a Hangout with just your colleagues, just your family or a couple of specific people. While hanging out, you can watch YouTube videos (as a group) and type away in a shared chat window. Though the chat function seemed gratuitous at first, I quickly realized it's important for when people are talking over each other and everyone wants to be heard at the same time. I tried it with just two other people. I imagine things get a lot noisier with ten participants. Oh, and for those wondering, the user in the big window changes depending on who's talking. You can override this by clicking on the window you want to appear on top, but I haven't managed to figure out how to go back just yet.


Huddling is a group chat feature that allows you to send messages to individual people, several people at once, or entire Circles via your smartphone. Again, handy for when you’re looking to talk to several people from the same Circle at once, and it's more convenient than a group text message, which involves scrolling through your entire phonebook.

Of course, there was always going to be comparisons to Facebook and two of the most obvious ones are the +1 button, which is basically just Facebook’s "Like" button, and the fact that there aren’t any ‘walls’ for you to write on. If I wanted to address Kevin directly, the best I can do (as far as I know), is publish a post that only he can see. However, this will appear on my page, not his. I don’t mind, because no one else can see it, but it doesn’t quite feel like I’m communicating with Kevin directly. Here’s an example of me sharing a post with only Kevin. I’ve also tagged him (using the same @ method Facebook and Twitter employ), which means he should receive two notifications instead of one. I'm sure he was really pleased with me for that.

That brings me quite nicely onto the most irritating part of G+: Notifications. Google+ is going to notify you anytime someone touches anything you have touched. For example, if you comment on a photograph posted by Larry Page, you’re going to get a notification every time someone else +1s or comments on that photo. These notifications come in the form of a little red flag in the black toolbar that appears at the top of Google Search, Gmail, Google Reader, etc., and via an email to the address you signed up with. If you’ve got big names in your Circles (remember, just because Larry is in one of my Circles, doesn’t mean I’m in any of his), then it can get very noisy. We can hardly bear to think about what will happen when celebrities get their hands on G+ and fans start +1ing and commenting like crazy. Luckily, you don’t have to put up with this for long, or even at all. You can 'mute' posts, just like you could in Buzz. So, if you really like Larry’s photo but couldn’t care less who else likes it too, you can mute the post after you've interacted with it and hear nothing else about it.

Feed Me

The last thing I want to talk about is feeds, or 'streams'. Your homepage is going to show a 'stream' of updates pulled from people across all of your Circles. However, you can toggle between Circles and choose only to look at updates from friends, family or that imaginary softball team I mentioned earlier. You can also look at 'incoming' posts. These are posts published by people who have added you to their Circles but are not in any of your Circles.

One of the more unfortunate things is that the main 'home' stream showing a mix of all your Circles doesn’t seem to be in any order. This morning I was looking at a post Robert Scoble published at 8 a.m., now I’m looking at a post Google Product Manager Bradley Horowitz published two days ago -- there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to it. It’s definitely not chronological and it doesn’t seem to go by popularity of post. This might not be an issue with small Circles of five, 10, 15 people, but when it's all your Circles combined, it's impossible to keep up with new posts because old ones keep cropping up and getting in the way.

How Can I Join?

Sadly, though Google opened up invites for a period of time last night, they’ve since been shut down due to high demand. Google did say it was shutting them down "for the night," so it’s possible invites will make a comeback today. Either way, you’ll have to sit tight until they’re switched on again and you can harass a friend for one.

For the record, a loophole that allowed you to give others G+ access by tagging a post with their email address (this would then send them a mail telling them they’ve been mentioned and offering a link to reply and join) appears to have been closed, so you can't get in that way either. If you're really desperate, some people are selling invites on eBay. Yes, really.

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house70 06/30/2011 9:27 PM
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thanks, but I think I can wait until the service is widely available. After all, I did not join FB so far... I am a skeptic.
OTOH, if this proves to be somewhat safer than FB, I might give it a try.

frozenlead 06/30/2011 9:40 PM
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Quote :I chose to add Kevin, because I am lovely and I want to see what he has to say.


Indeed.

Anonymous 06/30/2011 10:12 PM
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There's an auction for that.... ::: rolling eyes :::

hellwig 06/30/2011 10:21 PM
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The software works or it doesn't. This limited membership pool is ridiculous. People will be talking about Google+ for a few days (maybe a couple weeks). If Google does not open up membership to the general public in that time, it will die. I remember when Gmail invites were the next big thing. I didn't even notice when Gmail opened up to the general public (took many months), all I know is that Hotmail and Yahoo! Mail still have more accounts than Gmail. If Google wants to compete with Facebook, it needs to be there right away. Unlike email, social sites like this are living breathing organisms. You need those members to keep the website alive. You can TRY to be elitist, "we're only letting so many people in", to try to build up buzz, but when people can (and already do) use Facebook instead, why are they going to hang around trying to get into Google's exclusive club?

Face it, people use MySpace OR Facebook OR any of the other alternatives (especially regional ones), but unless you are a business or celebrity, how many people use more than one? How many millions of dead myspace pages are there? Those people didn't disappear, they just moved on. Google needs people to move on from Facebook for Google+ to be a success. Those people won't even try if Google won't let them.

I get an email from an acquaintance now and then inviting me to join Facebook, and you know what, if I cared, I could click that link and actually join. You try to join Google+ today, and you'll be told to come back later. First rule of sales is never let the customer walk out the door without buying something, and Google won't even unlock the doors to let customers in.

Anonymous 06/30/2011 10:26 PM
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milktea 06/30/2011 10:27 PM
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G+ would become something really significant if it does come out successfully. One reason is that the Gmail account is also tied to the Android smartphones, which it's something that the FB lacks. :)

milktea 06/30/2011 10:33 PM
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hellwig :
The software works or it doesn't. This limited membership pool is ridiculous. ...


Wow, are you really that social that you needed to be in the G+ social network asap? Personally, I wouldn't mind waiting a couple months til it's offically released. As long as you have a Gmail account already, I'm sure no one can take your ID when G+ goes public.
Patient my friend. :)

reprotected 06/30/2011 10:39 PM
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Looks like Facebook.

Niva 06/30/2011 10:55 PM
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Calm down, it's limited membership now because they're still testing/developing it. That will change in the near future.

blubbey 06/30/2011 11:07 PM
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Your cat (or the cat) looks like it wants to eat peoples D:

JasonAkkerman 06/30/2011 11:54 PM
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I have my invite but I can't use it. =(

dread_cthulhu 07/01/2011 12:26 PM
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Interesting... I do hope google opens it up soon. The only competion Facebook ever had was MySpace and that's pretty much dead.

gm0n3y 07/01/2011 12:36 PM
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I think its better for them to keep it 'invite only' for a while so they can test it out and iron out the bugs. Given that millions of people would sign up within a couple of day of launch, its probably the safest bet. They also probably retain the right to delete users/data in the beta period. If they just launched it and something went wrong, it could ruin the entire site.

JMcEntegart 07/01/2011 12:43 PM
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blubbey :
Your cat (or the cat) looks like it wants to eat peoples D:



Her name is Cujo, she totally wants to eat people. :P

dalethepcman 07/01/2011 1:01 AM
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JMcEntegart :
Her name is Cujo, she totally wants to eat people.


I want tuna, I want chicken, but Human flavor keeps me lickin, I like humans, and their liver, human mix human mix please deliver!

exfileme 07/01/2011 2:03 AM
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lol "lovely" is such a lovely word... not something I would use to describe Batgirl.

xantek24 07/01/2011 2:44 AM
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exfileme :
lol "lovely" is such a lovely word... not something I would use to describe Batgirl.



Only Jane...*sigh*

f-14 07/01/2011 3:16 AM
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Quote :queen of tom's hardware U.K.

that's pretty cheeky Jane, how goes the cat fight battle at the office over that one?
if it gets good can some one at the office please post security cam footage?

Anonymous 07/01/2011 10:31 AM
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This beautiful young woman is "bumping" her article to stay in the top slot of the news section!!! haha

Rab1d-BDGR 07/01/2011 10:35 AM
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When it launches, the real acid test will be whether it hits "critical mass" - most people are only going to switch from FB if most of their friends have already switched. Kind of a chicken + egg situation, but if it hits that critical mass then Facebook would be dead in the water.

phone_trouble 07/01/2011 11:47 AM
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and yet ANOTHER reason NOT to use Google. They are just trying to expand their advertising empire.
Who wants to see more ads?
I for one will not be trying it and will continue to look for ways to block their intrusion into my web life.

Anonymous 07/01/2011 11:51 AM
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phone_trouble :
and yet ANOTHER reason NOT to use Google. They are just trying to expand their advertising empire. Who wants to see more ads?I for one will not be trying it and will continue to look for ways to block their intrusion into my web life.



I'd love to say you're being ridiculous, but the sad reality is that you're probably right. The whole thing just looks like a big Facebook ripoff to me, in any case. I'm just failing to see any innovation/imagination going on with Google+ whatsoever.

blubbey 07/01/2011 1:08 PM
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JMcEntegart :
Her name is Cujo, she totally wants to eat people.



Slightly scared *hides from Cujo*

trevorvdw 07/01/2011 3:39 PM
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hellwig :
The software works or it doesn't. This limited membership pool is ridiculous.



Yes who do they think they are testing with a small group first. I mean who TESTS software. What hack amateurs these guys are. It'd be better to make it fully open right now knowing there'd be issues and a bad experience that would definitely turn people away right? /sarcasm

You sir are a dolt.

fyend 07/01/2011 3:42 PM
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hellwig :
The software works or it doesn't.



Good point. I'm disbanding our software QA dept. and giving a bad review to all programmers who don't have zero bugs in their first alpha release immediately. (Yes I'm joking to show you how absurd you are). :)

JMcEntegart 07/01/2011 4:45 PM
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JaneIsNotSoPlainIwillRefrain :
This beautiful young woman is "bumping" her article to stay in the top slot of the news section!!! haha




Hark, it is not me doing the bumping but another.

illo 07/01/2011 5:02 PM
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bump

thejerk 07/01/2011 6:05 PM
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kitteh

Thunderfox 07/01/2011 6:10 PM
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I know it makes sense to allow limited access while they work out the bugs, but I have to wonder if the limited access will be enticing to some people. They might want in just because they can't get in, and then when the doors open to the public, there will be a massive flood of people who've been hearing about the thing during beta.

koga73 07/01/2011 6:51 PM
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google+ who cares

applegetsmelaid 07/01/2011 8:00 PM
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Can't wait for - Google: The Movie