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Mozilla Attacks IE9's Marketing As Nonsense

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Welcome to a new episode of browser bashing. This time, it's Mozilla's turn again and Robert O'Callahan is taking a swing at Microsoft.

O'Callahan, one of Firefox' lead developers, is very clear that he isn't "here to bash IE9." However, he is clearly upset about the way Microsoft markets IE9 (that may be somewhat reminiscent to 1997, since Netscape wasn't quite happy about Microsoft and its IE4 marketing back then either.    

According to O'Callahan, Microsoft's "message that IE9 is the apex of what a browser can do with the GPU is nonsense." He explains that Microsoft's claims of full web platform hardware acceleration are ridiculous, especially since there are examples in which Firefox trumps IE's hardware acceleration engine and IE9 lacks key web platform features. In O'Callahan's words: "Microsoft's disdainful statement that '[other browsers are] choosing to accelerate only pieces of the Web platform' is hypocritical, because that's exactly what they do themselves."

As browser user, you are left standing in the rain as we know all too well that browser benchmarks and results can be shifted in any direction you want: Simply use the benchmarks that take you to your goal. Websites such as html5test.com and whencaniuse.com indicate that Mozilla and Google have, in fact, the edge in HTML5 support, but there is now way that we can tell which is the browser with the faster hardware acceleration engine. Mozilla shows off one example in which Firefox 4 RC1 is about ten times faster than IE9 RC, but IE9 RC crushes Firefox in Microsoft's own acceleration tests. It's up to you whom you believe at this point as there is no standardized and generally accepted hardware acceleration test.

We tend to think that IE9 is a big step forward and Firefox is a giant leap for Mozilla. Until we have a standardized test, we are happy with that.      

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    jalek , March 12, 2011 4:31 AM
    Each IE release is considerably faster until a few weeks later when they release security patches that break the methods they used.
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    Anonymous , March 12, 2011 4:38 AM
    O'Callahan is either blind or covering his own problems. Compare rendering of CSS level 3 box shadows, border radii, and linear gradients on elements which are part of animated widgets, among the leading modern browsers and IE9.
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    salimbest83 , March 12, 2011 5:43 AM
    im happy with my chrome
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    nebun , March 12, 2011 5:59 AM
    chrome sucks balls...firefox for life
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    IzzyCraft , March 12, 2011 7:14 AM
    And i'll use Firefox RC1 when it doesn't crash every 20 mins. You'd think after 123198 beta's i wouldn't need to be told update your graphics drivers it's your fault our browser crashes.
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    mayankleoboy1 , March 12, 2011 7:47 AM
    FF FTW :D 
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    Griffolion , March 12, 2011 8:34 AM
    *Yawn* make a decent browser and then bash competitors, until then, i'll stick with Chrome.
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    Anonymous , March 12, 2011 10:16 AM
    All marketing is bad, just ignore it. Use Tom's reviews instead :p  ...
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    zetzabre , March 12, 2011 11:09 AM
    nebunchrome sucks balls...firefox for life

    Remember that firefox has the worst performance in the market. but the best features (and plugins)
    chrome has the worst appearance. and the worst features.
    i personally prefer opera. it has both good performance and appearance and good features too (its not as good as firefox when talking about plugins, but the most useful are really good)
    im not an opera fan. if firefox gets better, i'll use it, if chrome gets better, ill use it. even if IE9 proves to be be the best, i'll use it. but right now, opera has the best ranking in performance and looks. (chech the last browser performance comparison in tomshardware if you dont believe me).
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    caeden , March 12, 2011 11:13 AM
    html5 test.com results
    Chrome (current update) 288
    FF 3.6.13 (latest release) 155
    IE9 Beta 130

    ya... looks like both ie and FF are blowing smoke on next gen support, and even Chrome only got 288 of 400. Time to go back to the drawing board.
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    Anonymous , March 12, 2011 11:24 AM
    IE is junk and has always been junk. Anyone who uses it probably doesn't know what a web browser is. the Internet is just that little E symbol on the task bar, you know that thing when you click on the flag on the bottom left? Yeah that one.
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    Anonymous , March 12, 2011 12:11 PM
    Let's not talk about the look of the software and it's speed.
    Let's talk about it's accessibility.
    I'm a blind computer user with great skils I think.
    I would recommend Firefox insted of IE9 to all blind users now because the most popular screen reader in the world, "JAWS for Windows" doesn't work with IE9 as well.
    I'm not talking about browsers like the stupad Crome, or the stupad opera.
    They are not accessibile at all to us.
    I hope that these 2 programs are going to inploment accessibility soon.
    So, let's think about other tipes of people with dissabilities and not about the look and the GPU and the speed with our software.
    Accessibility is not less important.
    So, now, Firefox and that's it for the blind Vista/Win7 users!
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    wifiwolf , March 12, 2011 12:51 PM
    I used like Chrome since version 6 because of performance and being light on memory footprint until I found out that you can reveal passwords with it without a master key. That's a serious security problem. Now I can't use Chrome and store passwords anymore. BIG fail.
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    Anonymous , March 12, 2011 2:10 PM
    Give me a break! What company does not focus on their product as if its the best in the world? Gee Mozilla, have you never heard a Steve Jobs presentation? What is always important Mozilla is how users like it? Right now Firefox is losing ground to Chrome. Hint, I think users like Chrome.
    If Firefox 4 sucks as bad as I think it will. Then all the positive advertising you do won't help it.
    Same goes for IE9. If its good, who cares about micro seconds of difference in speed.
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    fouch , March 12, 2011 2:11 PM
    Love Chrome, runs quite, not hogging tons of resources. FF is the worst for resource hogging by far. IE is a joke. MS is finally releasing a browser with CSS3 support, and we're all supposed to cheer? Where the hell was the support in IE 8?

    Chrome takes like 5 seconds to install, and is extremely versatile. I don't need anything else. Plus I love the sync, everywhere i go I get the same experience.
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    omnimodis78 , March 12, 2011 2:49 PM
    IzzyCraftAnd i'll use Firefox RC1 when it doesn't crash every 20 mins. You'd think after 123198 beta's i wouldn't need to be told update your graphics drivers it's your fault our browser crashes.

    I've been using Firefox beta since it's 5th release, or something like that - and I swear to you it has only crashed once, and that was after tried to assign the temporary folder it uses to a secondary drive. So, if your Firefox crashes every 20 minutes, it's absolutely your problem.
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    lradunovic77 , March 12, 2011 3:20 PM
    IE9 -> pile of shit. Buggy and fugly browser
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    IzzyCraft , March 12, 2011 3:45 PM
    omnimodis78I've been using Firefox beta since it's 5th release, or something like that - and I swear to you it has only crashed once, and that was after tried to assign the temporary folder it uses to a secondary drive. So, if your Firefox crashes every 20 minutes, it's absolutely your problem.

    with that logic every problem that someone else has that you don't is not a problem but just something they are doing wrong right? FF 4.0 has never been stable on my desktop, my laptop seems to work with it just fine it just freezes at odd moments loading images and crap. It's FF 3.6 or don't use FF imo
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    Vladislaus , March 12, 2011 4:15 PM
    IzzyCraftAnd i'll use Firefox RC1 when it doesn't crash every 20 mins. You'd think after 123198 beta's i wouldn't need to be told update your graphics drivers it's your fault our browser crashes.

    All browser developers recommend users to install the most up to date GPU drivers when using the GPU acceleration feature in the browser. Both IE9 RC and Chrome also had several crashes reported because of outdated drivers.
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    mayne92 , March 12, 2011 4:42 PM
    edileeFF, IE, and Chrome all have areas that the other 2 are better in so each can bash the other 2. I use IE mainly purely because it is faster for all the oodles of web pages I go to...yes I have tested this over and over and I don't care what anyone says...Chrome takes 10 seconds to load, FF takes 15 seconds to load, and IE loads in 2 seconds....this is just the openiing of the browser and this time frames have been the same since I have tested them. Page loading is about the same across all browsers. IE handles 90% of Farmville content (not a big factor) better than FF and Chrome. Chrome is less laggy while doing things on your farm and FF also performs better than IE in this specific test...in all other FV areas IE works better. I just used FV as an example and since it is poorly written software that after many years is stillin beta...you see what I mean.I have found people's browser of choice depends mostly on which one has a UI more suited to their needs this does not have any performance implications. Lots of folks will also just use whatever is different from Microsoft's browser...people like to be different and it doesn't matter if what they are using is better or not but they will insist it is.Long story short..download all 4 (Opera also) and use whatever one suits your needs for what you will be doing...they all have good points.

    So you back up your better browser experience with a Flash/Shockwave based game 'Farmville'? lol. Well if you say so in your 'tests'...then it must be. lol
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