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You Don't Have to Buy Both PS3 Move Controllers

- By - Source : Tom's Hardware US

There are two dedicated Move controllers for Sony's PlayStation Move and you need both to get the full Move experience. But do you really need to buy both? Nope!

One of the criticisms of Sony's motion sensing platform, Move, is that it involves at least two different pieces of equipment: the PlayStation Eye and the Move Wand. Optional is the Move navigation controller, which is needed to play certain games (as is the case with the nunchuk for the Wii).

The Wand by itself is $49.99 and the Navigation Controller is $29.99. Now I don't know about you, but $80 is pricey enough for one set of controllers, especially if you don't already have the PlayStation Eye. However, it seems as though you don't actually need the Navigation Controller, even if you do want the full experience.

Joystiq reports that, although it might not be as comfortable, you can actually replace the Navigation Controller with a DualShock 3 controller. At an E3 presentation about Move, Sony's Anton Mikhailov confirmed that the two controllers are interchangeable.You'll be holding the DualShock with one hand and only using the d-pad and analog stick but if you can come to terms with that, you'll save yourself $30.

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RicardoK 06/17/2010 9:55 PM
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I would buy both. It's easier to handle 2 sticks than having a dualshock 3 on my hand and the wand on the other.

sliem 06/17/2010 9:53 PM
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Bah, of course it's not comfortable holding a wand on one hand and and a controller on another. This is getting to pricey!!

RicardoK 06/17/2010 10:02 PM
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anamaniac 06/17/2010 10:11 PM
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DaFees 06/17/2010 10:07 PM
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This is news I already knew, but I have a different question that I would like an answer to. I have seen a lot of videos for the Playstation Move and their Wii Sports type game. In the videos when they show the human doing the archery game, they show it being done with two of the Move Controllers. Not a Move and Navigation, but TWO Move controllers.

Does this mean then for this game that we need TWO Move controllers for the fullest experience? If that is the case what about playing with four players in a game like this? Would it just be a pass the controller around wii sports type of deal or what? I don't want to buy the Move bundle, get home and find out that I needed a second Move controller to maximize my enjoyment.

hellwig 06/17/2010 10:15 PM
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DaFees :
This is news I already knew, but I have a different question that I would like an answer to. I have seen a lot of videos for the Playstation Move and their Wii Sports type game. In the videos when they show the human doing the archery game, they show it being done with two of the Move Controllers. Not a Move and Navigation, but TWO Move controllers.Does this mean then for this game that we need TWO Move controllers for the fullest experience? If that is the case what about playing with four players in a game like this? Would it just be a pass the controller around wii sports type of deal or what? I don't want to buy the Move bundle, get home and find out that I needed a second Move controller to maximize my enjoyment.



I read another article that also mentioned that some games require TWO Move controllers, not just a Move and Navigation controller. They didn't list titles, but its definately a rumor going around. Hopefully someone has more concrete details out there.

scione 06/17/2010 10:30 PM
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Would suck if you were left handed. and had to hold the dual shock controller in your right hand

Regulas 06/17/2010 10:43 PM
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Just hold tight, I am sure there will be deals where you get a free or subsidized paid for motion controller with a game.
I was thinking of waiting (I have a PS3) but I think I will still get the Black Wii and also buy the Wii Fit for the exercise, yes I am older and need it you young whipper snappers out there, hehe.

kinggraves 06/17/2010 10:49 PM
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This isn't at all off from Nintendo's pricing, and being the first to use this style of control, they set the "value" of it.

WiiMote and Wii Motion Plus will run about 50$
Nunchuk will run you an extra 20$
So you're still running about 70 dollars.
If I remember right, Kinect supports at least 2 people, so you're paying about 75 per person for that as well.
Motion controls have a pretty hefty admission price, no matter which console.

What's really concerning with Move is why so many shots have people using 2 of the main controller. That's clearly two lightbulbs in the "archery" shot, not a navi controller.
If 2 controllers are going to be needed per person for some games, they'd better be up front about it.
(Could you imagine having to buy 8?)

dman3k 06/17/2010 10:50 PM
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I'll buy one Kinect and hold 2 of my gf's dildos while she can hold on to a candle and a can of whip. Same effect. Far less expansive for multiplayer action.

Zenthar 06/17/2010 11:13 PM
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I don't know if people noticed, but some games like the fighting one and the archery one seems to require 2 wands ... not much better.

Zenthar 06/17/2010 11:11 PM
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Just saw kinggraves' post. One thing I'd like to add to his post is that the PS3 doesn't support 8 controllers ...

husker 06/17/2010 11:17 PM
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DaFees :
This is news I already knew, but I have a different question that I would like an answer to. I have seen a lot of videos for the Playstation Move and their Wii Sports type game. In the videos when they show the human doing the archery game, they show it being done with two of the Move Controllers. Not a Move and Navigation, but TWO Move controllers.Does this mean then for this game that we need TWO Move controllers for the fullest experience? If that is the case what about playing with four players in a game like this? Would it just be a pass the controller around wii sports type of deal or what? I don't want to buy the Move bundle, get home and find out that I needed a second Move controller to maximize my enjoyment.


I don't know the answer, but it makes perfect sense that you would need 2 move controllers for something like archery. It may be that it is using 2 points (one on each Move) to determine the "line of sight" that you are aiming (2 points determine a line). It is also possible that the game is taking into consideration how far back you are pulling your bow, by calculating the distance between the 2 Moves.

Proxy711 06/17/2010 11:24 PM
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Motion control COOOL!!!

15mins later.

Alright cool factor gone can i use my controller again now?

miloo 06/17/2010 11:46 PM
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proxy711 :
Motion control COOOL!!!15mins later.Alright cool factor gone can i use my controller again now?



totally agree, just like the Wii, now I end up playing my MH3 with the classic controller ~ and the worst part is the classic need to stick with the nuc chuck~ that's fuxking annoying

anyway dont think PS3 "move" will success ~ Sony you living under Wii shadow ~ good luck Sony
and please focus on your PSP2 ~ LOL

MajorUhlar 06/18/2010 12:17 PM
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The more I see of the Microsoft and Sony motion solutions the more things seem just odd in Sony land. Sony indicates that their solution is way better then Microsoft but the hardware clearly indicates their offering is competing with the Wii. How come they didn't compare to the Nintendo platform at E3? Instead they kept up with the Microsoft comparisons. Great, this is better then Microsoft Kinect, I get how that is likely true for the hard core crowd. However the Kinect seems to be targeting a different segment; what I would call the super casual audience who don't even get the buttons on a WiiMote and Nunchuck. To me, the more compelling hardware hitting the market is Kinect primarily because it really is going after something new. Time, and sales, will tell everyone who the winners are. I am also still curious how many PS3s are just blu-ray players since it was cheaper then a blu-ray player at launch. The attachment rate seems to indicate quite a high number. That's bad new because this would further reduce Move hardware sales and as a result reduce the number of potential titles we see for PS3.

Anonymous 06/18/2010 12:38 PM
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This is why I like Natal...no controllers. If they pull that off well then Xbox will have the upper hand on PS3.

Anonymous 06/18/2010 12:46 PM
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To get the full on experience Sony want you to have, it's gonna cost a bomb. 3D TV, glasses for all the family, the Move bundle, an extra main controller and a navigation controller if you don't want a hand cramp from holding a Dual Shock at awkward angles.
Ignore the 3D gimmick, simply getting Move for a single player is going to cost $180. $280-$310 to cater for a second person if you have games that require two wands or another navigation controller. Ouch!
I see Move as being more versatile, but Kinect is up and running for two people for $150 (rumoured), with a lot less hassle in terms of recharging 6 separate peripherals. I think MS have perfectly hit the target they're aiming for - that much vaunted casual market.

abelpc 06/18/2010 12:50 PM
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Have no plans of getting Move Controllers. I sold my Wii a long time ago because no-one wanted to use the motion controllers at my house.. Why does would it be different now? Might get Kinect but mainly for my family to use with the interface.. Watching Netflicks and such.

m-manla 06/18/2010 1:06 AM
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Ok so what about going to 3D? Expensive people. To have the latest and greatest thing, you have to spend money. When Vacuum cleaners came out, they cost around $500-600. Now they are around $100 and people are complaining about paying that. If you don't do it yourself, it is expensive. Hey I paid $600 for my MGS PS3. Did it hurt my wallet? YES. Did I go hungry for two weeks? YES. But I knew that going into the purchase knowing that. I don't complain about things too much that I haven't paid for.

The PS Move system to me seems like a good value. I can add it up. PS Move bundle (PS Move, PS Eye, and A $40 game) is $100. Add the Navigation Controller, $30. so about that price would be cheaper than the Microsoft Kinect ($140 most likely) and over the Wii setup ($70, considering you are still using the stock sensor bar). But Nintendo's stuff will always be cheap, and always have games that won't apply to most core gamers out there. The Kinect will solely have to rely on Motion sensing, which doesn't have any controls. The Move will have more buttons that the Wiimote out of the box, paired with the PS Eye which can do everything that a PS Eye already does (it just have better marketing. Sony really didn't market the Eye good except for the Eye of Judgment). Also look at the software title. Sony can still do games like SOCOM4 and Killzone, all while in 3D! It doesn't require to be standing all the time like the Kinect will, and has more flexibility than the Wiimote.

I did have doubts about the Move, but what I have seen the past few days has been awesome. SOCOM4 was enough for me to get on the Bus with the Move. IGN.com said that they was now on the bandwagon, and SOCOM4 with the move is natural and makes sense. Sorcery will be a sleeper. At first I was like whatever, but then when I seen the developer act like he was drinking the potion, and the bulb actually changed to indicate he drunk the potion, was enough to convince me. Kinect will have a harder time. I think both solutions will be better than the Wii. Mostly old titles with the identical gameplay. No real New IPs was announced during their press conference.

So hey, you don't have to buy it. But don't complain if you do buy it.

feeddagoat 06/18/2010 1:08 AM
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Thats what I hate about consoles. The "hidden" charges. Yes the console is cheaper than a PC but add in the 2nd controller for 2 player, Xbox 360 needs an HDD older PS2 needed memory cards. stuff like camera, wii fit board, even need to get straps and grips for the wii controllers. 360 need a subscription for xbox live too! Not to mention games cost more for consoles than their PC versions. Consoles are actually fairly expensive in the end. "official" PS3 controller is always fairly expensive to start with why would these controllers be any different?

m-manla 06/18/2010 1:11 AM
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feeddagoat :
Thats what I hate about consoles. The "hidden" charges. Yes the console is cheaper than a PC but add in the 2nd controller for 2 player, Xbox 360 needs an HDD older PS2 needed memory cards. stuff like camera, wii fit board, even need to get straps and grips for the wii controllers. 360 need a subscription for xbox live too! Not to mention games cost more for consoles than their PC versions. Consoles are actually fairly expensive in the end. "official" PS3 controller is always fairly expensive to start with why would these controllers be any different?



Actually more can be said about PC. The "LATEST AND GREATEST GPU" to play this game. Some people buys a new GPU every year. I have my next PC build planned out and It will set me back about $1500 when it is all said and done. Everything in life is a big hidden charge.

drwho1 06/18/2010 1:32 AM
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"You Don't Have to Buy Both PS3 Move Controllers"

so true I'm not buying ANY of them!
I'm perfectly fine with my PS3 controller

tayb 06/18/2010 2:24 AM
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RicardoK :
Have you seen all the Wii stuff? The PS3 is way cheaper.



Uh, what?

PS Eye - $40
PS Wiimote - $50
PS Nunchuck - $30

Total Price for one set: $120 + $80 for each future set

Wii Wiimote - $40
Wii Nunchuck - $20
Wii Motion Plus $20 *Not necessary*

Total Price for one set: $60 + $20 for Wii Motion Plus

Not to mention the up front costs of buying a Playstation 3 instead of a Nintendo Wii. I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that the Playstation Move is cheaper.

xerroz 06/18/2010 2:25 AM
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"You don't have to buy PS3 Move controllers"

You're right, I already own the cheaper and better version- the Wii so I'm not wasting my money on this PS3 stuff

Goro 06/18/2010 2:45 AM
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I might be wrong but real gamers are not going to use any of that c*ap

False_Dmitry_II 06/18/2010 6:03 AM
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anamaniac :
That's an expensive controller... I liked the over the Xbox just because of the cheaper controllers (I got them for $60, and cae with a rechargeable battery and a decent game, compared to $60 for a Xbox controller and a extra $20 for the rechargeable battery).



Then you're doing the 360 controllers wrong. More like $3-4 for a pack of 4 rechargeable eneloops/rayovac "hybrid" batteries. That also last longer...

And the rest? just plain wrong.

Manos 06/18/2010 7:18 AM
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Ok.. So to those wondering about how many Move controllers will be required and so on.

There will be games that require 2 Move controllers for EACH player. Which means you automatically need 100$ the least for each set. Even worst bad news after the fact that you know it would be 200$ for just 2 players ( + another 6 the least knowing you would need on the side 2xNavigation controllers which leads to a total of 260$ easily ) is that there can be only 4 Move controllers tracked at the same time. That means that games that require you to use 2 Move controllers per person automatically limits you to a 2 player game on the same console.

There will be many MANY people that will go buy their first move and start realising those factors as they keep visiting their local store to buy more and more of the required peripherals for motion controlling their PS3 games. Unfortunately they will know too late how deep they were forced to shove their hands in their wallets since they didnt know the requirements in the first place for any of the upcoming games..

I wish Sony made a list showing the total cost and bundles but ofc strategically a company would never do that. Kinect doesn't sound so expensive anymore does it? lol

tacoslave 06/18/2010 8:19 AM
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RicardoK :
I would buy both. It's easier to handle 2 sticks than having a dualshock 3 on my hand and the wand on the other.



LOL

Simple11 06/18/2010 10:17 AM
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I don't any game is going to attract me on any NUI system.

Zingam 06/18/2010 12:42 PM
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the ms system will fail - nobody will like to wave empty hands in the air like an idiot. and recently a guy who tried kinect said that it was very unresponsive. my two claims are most probably true so I expect limited adoption and also most people would not play in pairs so $150 is much more than $80