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Xbox 360 S Hacked to Play Burned 'Backup' Discs

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

The Xbox 360 S (for slim, or maybe short) has been hacked to accept burned discs. Tsk tsk.

Although piracy on consoles isn't as much of a problem as it is on the PC, it still happens. For the Xbox 360, all that it takes for one to be able to run a "backup" is a flashed DVD-ROM drive firmware. Some drives are easier/harder to flash than others, but it can be done.

It seems that even in the new Xbox 360 S, the drive is still susceptible to the same flashing vulnerability that'll allow for backups to be booted by the machine.

The team behind the original Xbox 360 flash, Team Xecuter has been working closely with other mod teams Team Jungle and C4E to come up with a flash solution. They've published this video as proof, but said that there's still much work to be done before it's ready for release.

Mind you, Microsoft has been ever on guard against these exploits and are more vigilant than ever in its bans.

Xbox 360 S Mod

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Trueno07 08/17/2010 4:16 PM
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I see a lot more Xbox piracy than i thought existed. While it's no where close to PC piracy, i was still surprised to find out how easy it can be if one knows what they're doing...

tu_illegalamigo 08/17/2010 4:20 PM
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Cool. Maybe now MS will release a WGA type tool to validate firmware every time you boot the machine. If not, i`ll use it while it works.

cptnjarhead 08/17/2010 4:21 PM
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Well.. i realize that piracy is a big issue.. but in this case.. my son could definitely use this for his 360.. he has scratched way to many disks. This would allow him to save the original and use the copy for drink coasters if he wanted to.
It is the same with PC's.. having to use the disk every time is not very practical.. And I'm sure everyone love secure rom :)

captaincharisma 08/17/2010 4:28 PM
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insider3 08/17/2010 4:40 PM
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I'm not surprised, this was bound to happen eventually.

sliem 08/17/2010 5:07 PM
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Oh, I thought TH was going to tell us how :P.

volkov956 08/17/2010 5:25 PM
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Dont think having ur gamer tag showing in the video would be a good idea TeamJungle but my guess it is an offline account

gallidorn 08/17/2010 5:30 PM
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captaincharisma 08/17/2010 5:35 PM
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kinggraves 08/17/2010 5:45 PM
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captaincharisma :
so i guess the slim design was to just change the look of an unreliable console instead of improving anything else. heck the PS3 has been unhackable since the original was released



*Difficult to hack, nothing is unhackable. Anything engineered can be reverse engineered. I think the real bane of pirates for PS3 is the choice of media. Don't PS3 games come out on BD-ROM discs? Most people have a DVD burner, they're cheap as dirt, but a bluray burner is another matter. People bought PS3s to have a bluray player, they're not going to go buy a burner to pirate games, especially when most PS3 titles come out on XBox anyway.

chick0n 08/17/2010 5:49 PM
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gallidorn :
This has got to be the most uninformed posting I've ever seen!!! PS3 was hacked within the first week. Since it was able to run linux, it enabled a wide variety of hacks!You only hate the XBOX 360 because you are a PS3 Fanboy. Get a life and get informed!!!




wow, I think you're the one that's uninformed.

You need to get your facts straight before you spill more BS out.

Do some homework first my friend.

blopdak 08/17/2010 6:12 PM
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chick0n :
wow, I think you're the one that's uninformed.You need to get your facts straight before you spill more BS out. Do some homework first my friend.



I have no clue as to the "hackability" of the PS3. Is it, or is it able to play backups?

remzrr 08/17/2010 6:33 PM
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The PS3 hasnt been officially hacked as of yet. The Hacks if you could call em that were to play emulators on the Linux side. There were a couple vids floating a few years back about playing backups but this was never confirmed. The only hope was the same dude that hacked the iphone claimed to have full access to the PS3 but as soon as he made his announcement Sony removed the Linux feature. He told everyone not to upgrade as he will vow to come up with a solution but that was last year...........Technically the PS3 is still a virgin

remzrr 08/17/2010 6:39 PM
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[citation][nom]remzrr[/nom]The PS3 hasn't been officially hacked as of yet. The Hacks if you could call em that were to play emulators on the Linux side. There were a couple vids floating a few years back about playing backups but this was never confirmed. The only hope was the same dude that hacked the iphone claimed to have full root access to the PS3 but as soon as he made his announcement Sony removed the Linux feature a cpl weeks later. He told everyone not to upgrade as he will vow to come up with a solution but that was last year...........Technically the PS3 is still a virgin

***Update he has come up with a custom firmware enabling the Other OS Feature
http://modsandhacks.net/tag/ps3-hacks/

beans4you 08/17/2010 6:49 PM
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remzrr 08/17/2010 7:01 PM
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Wheat_Thins 08/17/2010 7:13 PM
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kinggraves :
*Difficult to hack, nothing is unhackable. Anything engineered can be reverse engineered. I think the real bane of pirates for PS3 is the choice of media. Don't PS3 games come out on BD-ROM discs? Most people have a DVD burner, they're cheap as dirt, but a bluray burner is another matter. People bought PS3s to have a bluray player, they're not going to go buy a burner to pirate games, especially when most PS3 titles come out on XBox anyway.



......Most people that hack consoles don't give a shit about the optical drive, you play the images from a new massive hard drive. The PS3 has yet to be hacked. It has yet to this day been hacked to where it can actually play copied PS3 games or even PS3 game images. Key structure is natively built into Cell and key encryption is even in an encrypted shell that spans across SPU's. PS3 is the equivalent of Fort Knox in terms of trying to get copied game content to run on it.

gallidorn 08/17/2010 7:55 PM
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chick0n :
wow, I think you're the one that's uninformed.You need to get your facts straight before you spill more BS out. Do some homework first my friend.



I didn't say anything about the PS3 playing backups or having mod-chips, but there were several homebrew hacks that sprung up after the PS3's initial launch allowing people to play Emulators.

Enabling a console to play emulators is considered a hack, because it is allowing the console to play games which were illegally obtained.

techguy911 08/17/2010 8:25 PM
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Quote :Although piracy on consoles isn't as much of a problem as it is on the PC.


What planet do you live on?, where i live my shop does console repairs for every for every 3 xbox 360 taken in 1 is modded same goes for the Wii, have not seen 1 modded ps3 yet though and they are very rare to see broken unless dropped.

kinggraves 08/17/2010 8:51 PM
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Wheat_Thins :
......Most people that hack consoles don't give a shit about the optical drive, you play the images from a new massive hard drive. The PS3 has yet to be hacked. It has yet to this day been hacked to where it can actually play copied PS3 games or even PS3 game images. Key structure is natively built into Cell and key encryption is even in an encrypted shell that spans across SPU's. PS3 is the equivalent of Fort Knox in terms of trying to get copied game content to run on it.



I did say difficult, difficult isn't "unhackable".
Playing off an HD is the preferred method, but that method usually comes after the drive itself can play backups. You still need to get the disc image from somewhere. That somewhere is either going to be ripping the disc, which would require a BD drive in your computer, or off the internet. Most people bought a ps3 for bluray, so they aren't going to have a drive in their computer to rip it themselves, and unless the image is stripped, downloading BD images is pretty unwieldy for many who have download caps. There is also the fact that bluray in itself was created with attention to preventing piracy, even if it meant inconveniencing the user.
You would also have to factor in that Sony continues to remove functions off their system like OtherOS which enabled back door routes to hacking. They're more concerned about preventing piracy than they are about keeping their word and putting out quality products.

So what's easier for the hacking community, dealing with the extra difficulties and less common disc format of PS3, or working on Xbox where most of the same games exist? PS3 isn't unhackable, it just isn't worth the trouble to hack.

insider3 08/17/2010 9:17 PM
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gallidorn :
I didn't say anything about the PS3 playing backups or having mod-chips, but there were several homebrew hacks that sprung up after the PS3's initial launch allowing people to play Emulators. Enabling a console to play emulators is considered a hack, because it is allowing the console to play games which were illegally obtained.



Who gives a crap about emulators? The guy you initially bashed said the PS3 was unhackable since the first version meaning it can't play off of backup discs. You called him out as an Xbox360 fanboy when technically speaking, he was criticizing the Xbox and favoring the PS3 due to it not being able to play backups.

gallidorn 08/17/2010 9:47 PM
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insider3 :
Who gives a crap about emulators? The guy you initially bashed said the PS3 was unhackable since the first version meaning it can't play off of backup discs. You called him out as an Xbox360 fanboy when technically speaking, he was criticizing the Xbox and favoring the PS3 due to it not being able to play backups.



Why don't you read their post again?

captaincharisma :

so i guess the slim design was to just change the look of an unreliable console instead of improving anything else. heck the PS3 has been unhackable since the original was released

[b] They didn't say anything about backups... They said the PS3 has always been unhackable!!! This is incorrect, because of the ability to exploit the system through linux.

BTW - I called him a PS3 fanboy, because he said the new XBOX 360 was only a visual redesign. He failed to acknowledge that the new XBOX 360 has made several improvements to reduce heat and noise.

braneman 08/17/2010 10:00 PM
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interesting... I thought xbox 360 games where put on those HD-DVD's that lost the format wars, must be hard to find something that burns them...

sidran32 08/17/2010 10:25 PM
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braneman :
interesting... I thought xbox 360 games where put on those HD-DVD's that lost the format wars, must be hard to find something that burns them...


XBox 360 games are on DVD-9 format. It's high density but still a DVD. To play HD-DVDs on your 360, you need an external drive which hooks up via USB.

Anonymous 08/18/2010 4:26 AM
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TripGun 08/21/2010 7:00 PM
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I think its a hoax, they just stacked a burned disk on top of a real disk...notice the camera angle and they turned it off after ejecting.