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Hints Point to iPad 3 With 'Retina Display' Res

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The iPhone 4 has a very high-resolution screen (for a smartphone) packed into a small space. The intense pixel density of 326 ppi means that the dots are so small that they're almost imperceptible. Apple markets this as Retina Display, and it's a key differentiation point when comparing iPhone hardware against other handsets.

Some figured that Apple would be bringing a Retina Display to the iPad 2, but that didn't happen and the current iPad still has the same 1024x768 resolution as the original model.

New hints have been discovered in the iOS 5 developer beta software that strongly suggests that Apple is prepping for something that has four times the resolution of the current iPad.

Graphics for the Apple's Newstand application on the iPad come in both the current 1024x768 resolution as well as 1536x2048. Artwork for the new Twitter framework also reference the new resolution. See screenshots of it at Techunwrapped.

Reuters this week also cited sources saying that the next iPad will have a new screen with five to six times the resolution.

These graphics could be just a test for Apple, but it wouldn't be a far leap to assume that iPad 3 will be launched with a high-resolution screen sometime during iOS 5's shelf life.

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nebun 06/17/2011 2:16 PM
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why such high resolution for this pad? they better have a fast gpu for that thing

burnley14 06/17/2011 2:54 PM
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This is a major selling point in my mind. Tablets can only have so many differences in hardware, with screen quality (including resolution) being the most important (in my opinion).

alidan 06/17/2011 3:38 PM
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nebun :
why such high resolution for this pad? they better have a fast gpu for that thing



they dont. look at the majority of the games, most could run that resolution at current hardware

Anonymous 06/17/2011 3:46 PM
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happyballz 06/17/2011 3:52 PM
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noblerabbit 06/17/2011 4:00 PM
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screw Apple, I'm getting as Asus EEE Transformer.

daniel123244 06/17/2011 4:21 PM
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im happy. Nothing that boasts technology and competition is bad.

ares1214 06/17/2011 4:23 PM
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Thats overkill, soooo much. Thats better than my 24" monitor. Is that really needed for a 10" tablet? Maybe like 1280x960, or something to that effect, but I mean...thats such a waste. Not to mention it will have a rough time playing games. ARM CPU's are advancing incredibly fast, and a Tegra 3 CPU can actually handle this res (it could do 30 FPS+ playback on a 2560x1600...), but its just not needed. Maybe not even possible.

Dark Comet 06/17/2011 4:56 PM
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happyballz :
You better have some skinny-ass fingers to navigate that resolution on a small screen. Either that or icons should be 200% larger then they are now.@Alidan A lot of GPUs can run "higher-resolution" but at what FPS and if you actually use many textures or triangles in models etc then you need more power fo-sho.



I'd assume the icons would be higher resolution, or stretched more to be the same size. So there would be no problem there. Only problem is how are IPAD1/2 games/apps gonna look on it?

Personally, if I had the money I'd buy a Asus Transformer.

lamorpa 06/17/2011 4:57 PM
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Let's not wet our pants over this Apple 'retina' display stuff again. The (small by today's standards) iphone display at 3.54" (1.96" x 2.94") has a pixel density of 326ppi. A phone with a 480x800 display at this same size has a pixel density of 264ppi. The difference is less than 24%. It's not as though it's double or something like the marketing would have you believe. I'm happier with a larger display in any case. I don't hold the phone 6" from my face, so I can't see the difference.

icemunk 06/17/2011 5:17 PM
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nebun :
why such high resolution for this pad? they better have a fast gpu for that thing


Kal-El hopefully

back_by_demand 06/17/2011 5:41 PM
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How about they make the resolution 1920x1080
And widescreen
DUH!

Anonymous 06/17/2011 6:23 PM
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yum hi res display, unfortunately the higher the res the faster the battery drain

molo9000 06/17/2011 6:58 PM
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back_by_demand :
How about they make the resolution 1920x1080And widescreenDUH!


Widescreen, especially 16:9, isn't really an advantage on displays this small.
4:3 is better for surfing the web and reading documents.

upgrade_1977 06/17/2011 7:05 PM
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They said that about ipad 2.... I'll believe it when I see it.
So much hype around new products lately..
Untrue rumors just make customers feel let down..

headscratcher 06/17/2011 7:09 PM
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I was hoping that they could actually display stuff on my retina

Proxy711 06/17/2011 7:43 PM
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molo9000 :
Widescreen, especially 16:9, isn't really an advantage on displays this small.4:3 is better for surfing the web and reading documents.



Agreed. 16:10 > 4:3 > 16:9 as far as monitors go that display anything other then movies.

Anonymous 06/17/2011 7:53 PM
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why so many haters???
2048x1536 in 10" is GREAT!!!!!!! two full web pages side by side with NO zooming! + smooth as silk font. apple knows how to scale things

agnickolov 06/17/2011 8:02 PM
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Forget tablets, when are we going to see higher density desktop monitors? 2048x1536 existed in the CRT era yet we use lower resolutions today. The highest screen resolution available only on 30" monitors sold for insane prices is 2560x1600, which is only 64 lines higher and completely unaffordable. The newer 30" models are actually worse at 2560x1440! If it's going to be 16:9 (which I hate BTW), it should have progressed closer to 3840x2160 by now and become affordable... I don't care about movie playback, higher resolution is for better work experience.

Say what you will about Apple, their Macs are actually at the forefront of monitor technology with 2560x1440 on 27" monitors in their AIO iMac...

dragonsqrrl 06/17/2011 8:14 PM
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I didn't realize 10in 2048x1536 panels exist... is there any word on a manufacturer?

dalethepcman 06/17/2011 8:22 PM
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Quote :and it's a key differentiation point when comparing iPhone hardware against other handsets.

How much did you get paid to write this? This is media marketing garbage. The human eye is capable of seeing much finer detail than 300DPI images if we weren't, then why would we need 4800x4800 scanners and printers?

Don't believe the hype the IPS display on the iphone 4 doesn't look much better or worse than competing products from other manufacturers, and while it was a huge leap from the 3gs to the 4, the increase in pixel density was rather small compared to what every other smarthphone maker was currently offering.

As for the rest of this article. Show me a the money! Samsung has a prototype 2560x1600 10" screen, but they don't really like dealing with apple (google lawsuit samsung apple) and would rather use all of them for their own products. This is the only prototype screen in the 10" range that has 300DPI or greater. Where is the existence of the product your speculating will go into the next ipad, which ships next year is would have a production run of millions of units at launch? You can't hide 5 million new technology displays, or the factory / manufacturer that made them from the world.

Of course why speculate that apple would just be scaling images to a virtual equivalent of that size so it could display them side by side, or that this could possibly be for using an external display. That would just make too much sense. No it has to be some new unknown screen, that no manufacturer has even announced there being a prototype for.

livebriand 06/17/2011 8:23 PM
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That's a waste of money. I really want a matte screen. My 11.6" laptop, 1366x768, already looks pretty sharp. Who needs more than that? The dpi is likely similar to the ipad's.

smeker 06/17/2011 8:31 PM
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alidan :
they dont. look at the majority of the games, most could run that resolution at current hardware



Wrong...

dragonsqrrl 06/17/2011 8:39 PM
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agnickolov :
Forget tablets, when are we going to see higher density desktop monitors? 2048x1536 existed in the CRT era yet we use lower resolutions today. The highest screen resolution available only on 30" monitors sold for insane prices is 2560x1600, which is only 64 lines higher and completely unaffordable. The newer 30" models are actually worse at 2560x1440! If it's going to be 16:9 (which I hate BTW), it should have progressed closer to 3840x2160 by now and become affordable... I don't care about movie playback, higher resolution is for better work experience.Say what you will about Apple, their Macs are actually at the forefront of monitor technology with 2560x1440 on 27" monitors in their AIO iMac...


There are many other 27" monitors that support 2560x1440 resolution, and trust me, Macs are not at the forefront of display technology. Their are many other options, at least for professionals, that offer better color accuracy, color gamut, viewing angles, and white/black levels for a similar if not lower price.

As for your complaint about low desktop display resolutions, I would assume that has more to do with limitations in digital display interfaces such as DVI than any stagnation in the panel production industry. The max resolution DVI supports at 60Hz is 2560x1600. However, I believe DisplayPort supports up to 3840×2160 at 60Hz, but it also isn't nearly as ubiquitous as DVI yet. So we'll probably have to wait for wider adoption of either DisplayPort or some newer interface before we see monitors with higher resolutions.

twile 06/17/2011 9:38 PM
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Some people here aren't very smart. You use a tablet at half the distance you do a laptop, so twice the DPI makes sense.

As far as people complaining about GPU performance in games, that assumes you're running at native resolution. And while that's optimal, it's not strictly required. People do more than game on their tablets, after all, and you shouldn't hold back on supporting a higher resolution for some things just because game playback can't run at those resolutions (look at the Xbox 360 and PS3!).

Some people don't see the value in a higher DPI, and that's fair enough. If you're content with the pixel density, then consider yourselves lucky--you have lots of great options on the market. For people who can tell the difference (and statistically speaking, that's most people), it's a compelling advantage.

Honestly people, try to be smart and objective about this stuff. I hate Apple but seriously, these arguments are just not thought through at all.

Zingam 06/17/2011 9:55 PM
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highrez2011 :
why so many haters???2048x1536 in 10" is GREAT!!!!!!! two full web pages side by side with NO zooming! + smooth as silk font. apple knows how to scale things



You obviously have microscope sight! Most people don't. Maybe they double that resolution so you could look at 6 pages at the same time side by side.

JOSHSKORN 06/17/2011 11:11 PM
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I knew there was a reason I didn't buy an iPad 1 or 2.

livebriand 06/17/2011 11:57 PM
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Spammers, you do realize that we're not that stupid and we'll just thumb down your comment into oblivion, right?


Do you think it's possible that DP could support 4k in a newer revision? Man, HDMI really doesn't have any benefits here - no support for an analog signal (unlike DVI), and "only" 1080p resolution, plus licensing fees.

dragonsqrrl 06/18/2011 1:23 AM
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livebriand :
Do you think it's possible that DP could support 4k in a newer revision? Man, HDMI really doesn't have any benefits here - no support for an analog signal (unlike DVI), and "only" 1080p resolution, plus licensing fees.


It seems entirely possible, the current DP spec is already pretty close to a 4K standard (digital cinema 4K is 3996×2160), although more significant changes are probably needed to support full aperture 4K 4096x3112.

Vladislaus 06/18/2011 2:15 AM
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agnickolov :
Forget tablets, when are we going to see higher density desktop monitors? 2048x1536 existed in the CRT era yet we use lower resolutions today. The highest screen resolution available only on 30" monitors sold for insane prices is 2560x1600, which is only 64 lines higher and completely unaffordable. The newer 30" models are actually worse at 2560x1440! If it's going to be 16:9 (which I hate BTW), it should have progressed closer to 3840x2160 by now and become affordable... I don't care about movie playback, higher resolution is for better work experience.Say what you will about Apple, their Macs are actually at the forefront of monitor technology with 2560x1440 on 27" monitors in their AIO iMac...


agnickolov :
Forget tablets, when are we going to see higher density desktop monitors? 2048x1536 existed in the CRT era yet we use lower resolutions today. The highest screen resolution available only on 30" monitors sold for insane prices is 2560x1600, which is only 64 lines higher and completely unaffordable. The newer 30" models are actually worse at 2560x1440! If it's going to be 16:9 (which I hate BTW), it should have progressed closer to 3840x2160 by now and become affordable... I don't care about movie playback, higher resolution is for better work experience.Say what you will about Apple, their Macs are actually at the forefront of monitor technology with 2560x1440 on 27" monitors in their AIO iMac...


I fail to see how can Apple be at the forefront of monitor technology when they buy their lcd panels from third parties.

livebriand 06/18/2011 2:26 AM
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twile :
Some people here aren't very smart. You use a tablet at half the distance you do a laptop, so twice the DPI makes sense.As far as people complaining about GPU performance in games, that assumes you're running at native resolution. And while that's optimal, it's not strictly required. People do more than game on their tablets, after all, and you shouldn't hold back on supporting a higher resolution for some things just because game playback can't run at those resolutions (look at the Xbox 360 and PS3!).Some people don't see the value in a higher DPI, and that's fair enough. If you're content with the pixel density, then consider yourselves lucky--you have lots of great options on the market. For people who can tell the difference (and statistically speaking, that's most people), it's a compelling advantage.Honestly people, try to be smart and objective about this stuff. I hate Apple but seriously, these arguments are just not thought through at all.


It depends. I sit quite close to my 11" netbook. However, it obviously has smaller text than a full-sized 15" laptop at the typical 1366x768 resolution.