Time Warner and NBC Serve Up a Slap for Apple
The very public feud between Apple and Adobe seems to be simmering down but, though the main instigators may not be trading blows anymore, others are still choosing sides.
When the iPad launched, Steve Jobs announced that it would not support Flash and many sites and newspaper publishers rushed to create either an iPad friendly website or a separate app for the Apple tablet. However, despite the fact that some were more than willing to dump Flash for Apple, other companies have no intention of doing anything of the sort.
Both Time Warner and NBC have said they don't want to convert video for the iPad and are sticking with Flash for the time being. According to the New York Post, they may not be the only ones denying iPad in favor of Flash.
The Post cites sources who say several large media companies, Time Warner and NBC Universal included, have told Apple they won't retool their extensive video libraries to accommodate the iPad. These companies are arguing that the reformatting would be expensive and not worth the money because Flash dominates the Web.
The Post report continues on to say these companies are more comfortable with rejecting the iPad because they're expecting rivals from Dell, HP and many more. Another media executive told the newspaper that Apple's ability to dictate terms to the media giants will be further weakened by the arrival of Google TV.
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what??!! companies not doing what apple commands them to do??!! what is the world coming to? maybe people might realize the crap Apple pushes on the public....
Google TV FTW
suck it Jobs!
maybe people might realize the crap Apple pushes on the public....
Don't be ridiculous
F*** them all. NBC, Time Warner, and Apple all deserve one another.
Ironic that this news is published on the day the iPad is released in Canada.
I turn on the TV and it says "iPad mania hits Canada"
>>> *proceeds to power off TV and resume daily activities*
LOL to Apple. When you only control 8% of the market, you don't call the shots.
But apple claim you get a much better web browsing experience with the ipad than you do with a laptop, surely apple wouldn't be lying.
LOL to Apple. When you only control 8% of the market, you don't call the shots.
Regardless of market control, you don't call shots. Silverlight anyone?
F Apple. Just F them in the ear!
This is why I hate Apple. "We'll build some cool stuff but we'll charge you 4 times what it should be worth AND you HAVE to use OUR stuff. We're not going to make our stuff compatible with the 95% of stuff out there."
I love iTunes! I HATE that the songs I buy from there cant be played on anything BUT iTunes.
Up Yours, Apple Almighty....
Glad someone is standing up to the despot who runs the fruit.
and here i was hoping this would push companies to go HTML5.... not an apple fanboy (dont have an iphone)... just hate the way flash runs
Cheer to the world the Fruit loses this round and finally the tables are turning on Jobs.
wow, kindergarden got its own message board.
Down with Apple and Flash.
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
I don't like Apple's product separatism and won't buy anything from them that doesn't play nice with other companies.
However, for the first time, I am 100% on Apple's side.
Flash is a poor, dying, anticompetitive technology.
It isn't supported and works poorly on a common and very fast-growing platform (64 bit Linux), although they have known about this for years.
Anyone who is sticking with flash is making a very bad business decision and will lose much custom.
Hulu (run by NBC) tested HTML5 vs. Flash 10.1, and they said HTML5 is great, but it just doesn't work for the content that they stream. Not only that it is very insecure when it comes to streaming the content. There was also a study between HTML5 and Flash 10.1 on both Mac and Windows OS's. Flash 10.1 performed just as well, if not better, than HTML5. Problem for the Mac/Safari combo was at the time, Apple wouldn't allow Adobe access to the API needed for hardware acceleration. I have not heard how much improvement there has been since Apple gave limited access.
Still I am glad some giants are sticking up to Apple's communism. Job's claims that Apple is an "open platform," when in fact it is the most closed platform out there.
Reminds me of days gone by, except instead of Microsoft attempting to dictate terms to the industry, it is Apple. Seems they are becoming that which they detest. They haven't even bothered to do it underhandedly like Microsoft did, they are just outright dictating. So, they seem to have surpassed their nemesis on this front.
In short on the whole Apple VS Adobe thing: FAIL.
So why doesn't anyone cry about Google since as far as I'm concerned, they're the main force behind HTML5 adoption. You people act like you have stock in Adobe or something. Just pitiful.
As far as NBC, what do they have that anyone wants to watch anyways? Their most popular shows are the Office and 30 Rock, and they're dwindling. They screwed over Conan. And their one big sensation (3 years ago) Heroes has been canceled. They should be bending over backwards to reach as wide an audience as possible.
LOL to Apple. When you only control 8% of the market, you don't call the shots.
8% in the US, not globally.
Though I believe HTML5 and Flash should be an option. They both have their uses.
suck it Jobs!
heard!!
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
Quote from this page:
"Adobe claims that we are a closed system, and that Flash is open, but in fact the opposite is true. Let me explain.
First, there’s “Open”.
Adobe’s Flash products are 100% proprietary. They are only available from Adobe, and Adobe has sole authority as to their future enhancement, pricing, etc. While Adobe’s Flash products are widely available, this does not mean they are open, since they are controlled entirely by Adobe and available only from Adobe. By almost any definition, Flash is a closed system."
Uhh, did I miss something? Replace every "Adobe" with "Apple" in the last sentence, and it comes with the same result. Then they go on glorifying themselves on WebKit, which originally began on Linux anyway, completely glossing over the fact that their products control a crap ton more than Adobe's do.
A perfect, clean, and very public reminder of why I hate this company.
Here's another from the same page:
"There are more games and entertainment titles available for iPhone, iPod and iPad than for any other platform in the world."
AHAHAHA. If you seriously think your crappy app store has mad more games for it than the PC, you are very, very, very wrong. There's no way the app store can compare with the volumes of games that have been created on and played on PCs for decades, now.
I love iTunes! I HATE that the songs I buy from there cant be played on anything BUT iTunes.
You pay for music?
Seriously though, I would buy more CD's if they weren't vastly overpriced (and there's no way in hell I'm paying for MP3's).
Up your's! Jobbs!!
However, for the first time, I am 100% on Apple's side.Flash is a poor, dying, anticompetitive technology... ...Anyone who is sticking with flash is making a very bad business decision and will lose much custom.
Last time I looked Flash was doing anything but dying. I don't think flash is anticompetitive, I use software (SwishMax) other than Adobes for my Flash creation. Flash is too slow, buggy and often abused (by advertisers) but it is still a very useful tool, both for video and games. Also, don't forget the role flash has played in killing real player which was/is a huge load of camel turd.
If you are on Linux64 then flash/media/website developers aren't concerned about you anyway as you're a tiny part of the market.
Apple just got backhanded like a bitch!
This is such a good news!
I'd much rather eat a banana instead.
come on guys. flash for mobile devices is not a good thing. If the reports are true and the iPad loses a TON of battery life with Flash enabled then yes, disabling Flash is the right thing to do. Apple should have at at least given the consumer the choice though. imo Adobe is fat rich and lazy at the moment and they will be replaced.