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Lexicon Blu-ray Loading Less than 5 Sec.

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

An upcoming Lexicon Blu-ray player will provide loading times less than five seconds.

DVICE is reporting that Harman International is working on a Blu-ray player (Lexicon BD-30) offering load times less than five seconds for non BD-Live titles. Harman's VP of marketing Marc Kellom told the site that the player will also be capable of loading BD-Live titles in less than 30 seconds.

"Compare that to the Pioneer Elite 03 with 51 - 90 seconds to load and Sony's S350 or S550 at 28 - 67 seconds, and you can see it is much improved," he said.

According to info provided by Harman, the player supports DVD, SACD, DVD Audio, Compact Disc, and video & audio over USB. Using Anchor Bay's VRS technology, the player presents full HD 1080p output, True 24p video, HDMI and more.

Kellom also told DVICE that the BD-30 should cost consumers around $3000 USD when it finally goes retail.

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soldier37 07/24/2009 2:40 AM
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non bd live titles includes no new releases what so ever. Only much older titles, so blah. Ill stick with my PS3 thanks.

Anonymous 07/24/2009 2:51 AM
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Not really got the 3K to spend on blueray!
Then I'll stay with a blueray drive for my pc!

Mr_Man 07/24/2009 3:26 AM
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My instinct after reading the price tag was to think, "Yeah, but 2 low-cost players in RAID 0 would be faster for a tenth of the cost..."
Then I had to smack myself.

icepick314 07/24/2009 3:39 AM
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good god...$3000??

what does it come with? encrusted with swarovski crystal?

Wayoffbase 07/24/2009 3:52 AM
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Mr_Man :
My instinct after reading the price tag was to think, "Yeah, but 2 low-cost players in RAID 0 would be faster for a tenth of the cost..."Then I had to smack myself.


lol

and yea, they lost me at $3000

paranoidmage 07/24/2009 4:52 AM
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30 seconds to load a movie? This is what you pay $3000 for?

rigaudio 07/24/2009 5:52 AM
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No thanks. I have more time than money.

seatrotter 07/24/2009 5:55 AM
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Can anyone provide some info about actual load times? Basically, using recently released movies on high-, medium-, and low-end players. And also on PCs.

With all the anti-consumer...errr...consumer-choice-enabling features :D (read: DRM/security), I've been wondering how long it would take to play the movie (or at least the menu window).

Thanks in advance :)

Anonymous 07/24/2009 6:23 AM
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"Compare that to the Pioneer Elite 03"

There are Elite BDP 05, 09 and 23 players, but I'm not aware of an Elite 03? Maybe that's why it's faster?

imapc 07/24/2009 6:44 AM
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Who does this guy plan to sell these players to? I doubt his family would even buy one from him they're so expensive.

TidalWaveOne 07/24/2009 7:09 AM
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Unfortunately my time is not worth that amount of money!

thejerk 07/24/2009 8:04 AM
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Well... as a Lexicon retailer I'll just go on to say the $3000 retail price tag is due to a few things:

High-mass transport
Significantly more expensive internal components (PSU, DACS, VSP, DSP, output devices, etc.)

Really though, the parts might cost twice that of a nice retail player. But, the cost of Lexicon's R&D must be factored into the retail cost of the player, hence the 3X price increase over the upper mid-level players. You get a, maybe (and subjective), 15-20% increase in performance for 3X of the cost.

But, it's like having a $400k Rolls Royce over an S-Class Benz. Sure, they're both baller... but the Rolls isn't 3X an S-Class.

PLATTERMAN 07/24/2009 8:15 AM
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$3000.00, The pic i saw looked like the faceplate was made out of billet aluminum. I did'nt think aluminum was as pricey as platinum. It looks to be well made but at that price it better be and have a 10 yr full replacement warranty. If it were a all format burn, record HDTV, had a SSD internal drive and would auto skip to the main menu on its own, it might have a shot at getting mainstream.

lvlouro 07/24/2009 10:40 AM
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thejerk :
Well... as a Lexicon retailer I'll just go on to say the $3000 retail price tag is due to a few things:High-mass transportSignificantly more expensive internal components (PSU, DACS, VSP, DSP, output devices, etc.)Really though, the parts might cost twice that of a nice retail player. But, the cost of Lexicon's R&D must be factored into the retail cost of the player, hence the 3X price increase over the upper mid-level players. You get a, maybe (and subjective), 15-20% increase in performance for 3X of the cost.But, it's like having a $400k Rolls Royce over an S-Class Benz. Sure, they're both baller... but the Rolls isn't 3X an S-Class.



OK, but what credibility as a guy named thejerk?!?!?!?!?!

It's a nice day outside I think I'll go drive around in my new $3000 BluRay player!!!

astrodudepsu 07/24/2009 11:27 AM
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That's $3000 post-inflation obama dollars right? So that's like $35 of today's dollars. So it's all good fellas.

waxdart 07/24/2009 11:47 AM
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If it wasn't for the DRM and protection they stuffed into the system the load times would have been a lot less.

The costs would have been a lot less.

The accumulative extra power needed to drive the cpu to decrypt the disks will produces tons of C02 over the years.

There DRM is bad for the planet! :)

anamaniac 07/24/2009 12:33 PM
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Mr_Man :
My instinct after reading the price tag was to think, "Yeah, but 2 low-cost players in RAID 0 would be faster for a tenth of the cost..."Then I had to smack myself.



It may be possible.
Running multiple seeking disk drives (just removable disks and single platter in comparison with lower throughput, latency, and storage than a HDD) both with the exact same information (assuming two similar bluray disks). Though a partition could be set between the disks in raid 0, both having half the information...
Though, you're better off ripping your blurays to a 64 gig SSD and a decent video card and i5/i7 to play the movie. Would still be cheaper with a 1-2 second loading speed.

-_-

belardo 07/24/2009 1:21 PM
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Ouch! $3000 for that?! Where do I sign up?! (not)

Don't forget, Nokia makes the $15,000~25,000 Cell phones!

hannibal 07/24/2009 1:25 PM
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Well this definitely is not for normal customers. This is for people who use silver audio cables that cost $600-$1000 each. When you compare to that, it's actually guite cheap high end status apparatus.
Normal cd-player can cost $2500-$5000 so this is a "cheap" alternative to real high end players.
What this means is that guite soon you can see these kind of loading times allso in normal massproduct players. Without having to play that high end status extra. So actually this is a good news! Next year we sill have BD-players in $50-$150 with loading times like this!

ssddx 07/24/2009 2:12 PM
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+1 hannibal. exactly.

New (or updated) technology is always expensive upon first release. Eventually all of the players will incorporate the same features.

As for loading BD movies... I've always used a ps3. no complaints here, so far so I don't see the hype.

apmyhr 07/24/2009 4:05 PM
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How long does PS3 usually take to load?

Kill@dor 07/24/2009 5:18 PM
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I had no idea about that Hannibal. Thanks for the info...

Anonymous 07/24/2009 5:21 PM
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How about the OPPO BDP-83, same features as listed, very fast loading and only $499. Bargin :)

Anonymous 07/24/2009 6:50 PM
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Well, the Sony BDP-S560 ($300-$350) supposedly has

Anonymous 07/24/2009 7:30 PM
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Well, the Sony BDP-S560 ($300-$350) supposedly has

zelog 07/24/2009 10:55 PM
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Mr_Man, that was hilarious.

grieve 07/24/2009 11:22 PM
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With a price tag of 3k I would have thought it was an apple...

grieve 07/24/2009 11:23 PM
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Next weeks article...

Lexicon Blu-ray holds 98% of top end Blue-Ray sales... since no one else is near 3k.

Anonymous 07/25/2009 8:35 PM
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My Media center PC running on Vista (horrors) loads in less than 30 sec - and cost me around 800 with a combo Blu-ray / HD drive (my own build). I'll pass on the 3k version.

Anonymous 07/26/2009 12:30 PM
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Or you can get the Oppo BDP-83 for $500. It uses the same Anchor Bay VRS technology, loades BD-Live in less than 30 seconds, plays BD, DVD, SACD, DVD-Audio, decodes all the HD audio formats internally, and provides 7.1 analog output if you want to use that.

lakers1985 07/26/2009 4:12 AM
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There may be a market for these players to which I don’t belong or wish to belong to. The same people who buy players like the Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD or Denon DVD-A1UDCI and then profess that they see blu-ray pictures that are leaps and bounds above the sub $1,000.00 blu-ray player and how great the dac’s sound. (lol) I think for lot of those buyers there is a placebo effect. I paid considerably more so it must be considerably better.