G2 Rootkit Stops Owners from Android Hacking

Sounds like what Apple does with OSX. Shame on T-Mobile.

So much for being a spiritual successor to the G1!

Just get a different phone! I mean if you want the ability to root the phone unhindered there are plenty of flavors of Android that are easily hacked...

As the article says, it wont matter much soon anyways.

Which is why I want a Nexus.

Can somebody tell me why companies are trying to prevent people from hacking into their phones?

I smell a loop hole on T-Mobile. Might that be why they have used this rootkit?

to keep it working properly on said network... the end
all the mods are not supported all the apps are unsupported
the change people make may cause the device issues
such as not being able to call 911 when GPS is on for example
not all networks are the same not all networks are going to allow
the devices to work as advertised also not all networks can support all features of the devices
which are sometimes not supported by the network.
the providers tech support ...supporting the issues people have with the devices after modifyung them can not alway help you fix the issues created with x modification. plus if you screw with the phone it stops working ....you void the warrenty so open source or not.

yeah I repeated repeated myself lol

Motorola does something similar to their phones, I remember reading about the chip that prevented unlocking the bootloader on their Droid/Milestone and therefore preventing the install of rooted ROMs.
Same shameful tactics that go against all that Android is about.

O that blows... Looks like im not going to be getting a HTC phone if this is what there going to do to there costomers.... SAMSUNG HERE I COME ... or some other android maker . on a side note... is HTC going to be doing this to all there phones in the future??

WTF?!?!? Isn't the entire point of Android OPENNESS?????

Do note: This is done by Tmobile, NOT by HTC.

shadow hardware is the manufactuars option, thy could of told them no but they did not. i will always expect the T-mobiles and the AT&T of the worlds to do this, but the fact is HTC makes the pnone not T-mobile, it is a rebrand. so I still blame HTC for saying yes to a hardware implimintation.

All carriers do it to the android they word it a bit differently and try to make it look like they are helping the users but they all do it or soon plan to do it to some extent.

Personally the one thing i don't like about android is there is no min spec requirements so development on it is hard when it comes to compatibility, esp compared to developing for the iphone or the new windows 7 phones that are coming out. I mean next year there will be what 70+ android phones on the market. It's going to be hard for consumers to understand what they want to buy.

think this is karma for all the iphone bashing droid users did?
i wonder what apple users did to get this much bad karma in the first place?
PS: people interested in tech LOVE SHOPPING!! SPAM MORE!!! you will get TONES of new customers. this is a GOOD USE of bandwidth, CPU cycles, and time that could be spent spamming somewhere else.
PPS: that was sarcasm.

Maybe you should phone their store and speak chinese. Then maybe they'd understand you better than posting her to their bots.

Moderator Edit: swearing at the spammers isn't helping anything.

While I understand that carriers want to try and "protect" their users, if someone has the know how and willingness to try and put a custom rom / root their phone, so be it. What I dont understand is why they dont REALLY help their customers by ALLOWING people to screw with it and giving them a way to put it back to bone stock easily instead of relying on community support. While I understand the warranty is "void" by doing this, it IS only software, and as such SHOULDNT void any warranties because it can be put back with ease to the same condition as factory..
bottom line, I wish manufacturers would stop fighting power users on this, its silly.

Yes, but it is Tmobile ultimately implementing and using it.

HTC should be sticking up for our right and telling the to get f-d! :-)

Sorry hopefully swearing at big business isn't as bad as swearing at spammers :-D

It can be argued eather way, but HTC still deliverd it as an option, and t-mobile impimented option, or it could of gone the other way around. One thing is a fact though T-Mobile could not do it without HTC, and whats to stop them from using it on any future phones.

I think if we seperate it like this we can lay appropriate blame:

-T-Mobile has the intention, we can hate them
-HTC is the 'enabler'. This might mean they sold this option to them, or used it to secure a deal, either way it's trading customer's right for jobs and it's poor form

I think like any crime the party with intention to violate cops worse penalties and is the one that should be focused on.

I'll agree to that, but i cant dodge the fealing that this will not be the first, since companies can no longer lay down suits for jailbrakers at least in referance to DMCA of 1996.

CM6 for MILESTONE!! NOW!!!


We, Milestone users are on the same boat. We have a "froyo" but not good enough cuz its just a port of 2.2 using 2.1 kernel (so, no flash). I wish our bootloader was open too. Not only the rooting part (I only use one ROOT app, so I don't really mind the root) but everything should be unlocked.. OPEN SOURCE!

well im still happy with G1, i have been debricking them with jtag and flashing them, so ya pretty much with a jtag approach its easy to fix any device, so long as the hardware is functional.

I dont get it, why dont they make it like others said just a simple way to flash, if they would make these bootloaders better and recovery system better too then all would be well the phones would gain a lot of popularity... and who cares about tech support? im sure they can see what OS version your running and say sorry you have your phone rooted we cant help you...

oh well g1 will be ok so long as i dont put too intensive stuff on it and keep the memory free... doesnt compare to the new cpu's and ram on the devices but hey 2.2 is nice

the xda guys just need more time btw im sure they will find a way to get around that hardware... cause all u have to do is convince the hardware that your running the right version and boom the hardware doesnt stop you then

I think the main issue with how companies handle smartphones(not to mention loads of other tech) is that it's not actually the techs who are calling the shots at the companies.

Usually you've got people with zero to no technical training or knowledge calling the shots thoroughly convinced it's "for the good of their customers".

In the end most tech firms needs new blood on the boards to embrace the fact that times have changed since the early 90s.

Then stop them from spamming. Its getting worse by the day. soon enough the spam will outnumber legit comments.

just ignore the spammers, report the comment, and move on ... maybe ddos attack the site if you feel so inclined... but then move on after thier site is down

locking out features and upgrades? Did t-mobile get bought out by $ony?????

so... where can I get an Desire Z instead of a G2?