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Facebook: We Do a ''Reasonable Job'' on Privacy

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

Among the many high profile CEO's appearing at the Wall Street Journal's D8 tech conference was Facebook Chief Mark Zuckerberg. Obviously, one of the big issues for Facebook as of late is privacy so it was bound to come up.

Zuckerberg said last week that the company has 'missed the mark' when it came to privacy. In an effort to keep users happy, Facebook debuted newer, less complicated privacy settings and this week, Zuckerberg said he felt the company was doing a 'reasonable job' when it came to giving people control over their information.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Zuckerberg feels the controversy surround Facebook privacy will eventually pass. The CEO said that the future of websites will be built on personalisation and the people at the core of those sites.

Zuckerberg said his aim was to push Facebook's strategy beyond the social network to enable websites and apps to become better because they have people at their core. And he pledged to continue to make the "right changes" even if some of them might be considered controversial when they are introduced.

"We think it's the right thing to do, and people expect that of us," he said during an appearance at the Wall Street Journal's All Things Digital conference here.

"A few years from now we'll look back and wonder why there was this time when all these websites weren't personalized," he said. "The world is moving in this direction where everything is designed around people."

However, though Mr. Zuckerberg says he will continue to 'make the right changes,' many users would disagree. The backlash from the recent changes is not the only time Facebook has faced complaints from users and privacy advocates. One such time was in 2007, when the social network automatically opted all users into its Beacon advertising program. Beacon sent information to Facebook from more than 40 different partner Websites, sometimes published online purchases on a user's news feed. The backlash creates so much press that one partner, Coca Cola, decided to pull out. The soft drink company claimed it had been under the impression the service would be strictly opt-in. Shortly after, Zuckerberg apologized and Facebook said it would allow users to opt-out of the service. In 2009, Facebook shut down Beacon altogether.

Read more about Zuckerberg's D8 appearance on the Wall Street Journal.

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pinkfloydminnesota 06/04/2010 11:48 PM
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People who complain about Facebook's privacy settings and continue to use it are just like people who complain about kids peeing in the city pool and continue to swim in it.

Facebook will always violate your privacy, kids will always pee in the city pool, and if you use free services you should expect to get some urine on your body.

Shadow703793 06/04/2010 11:50 PM
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pinkfloydminnesota :
People who complain about Facebook's privacy settings and continue to use it are just like people who complain about kids peeing in the city pool and continue to swim in it.Facebook will always violate your privacy, kids will always pee in the city pool, and if you use free services you should expect to get some urine on your body.


Yup. Those people are hypocrites.

afforess 06/04/2010 11:57 PM
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Because doing an "average" job always yields positive results... Right. You can fool some of the people all of the time or all of the people some of the time...

Pyroflea 06/05/2010 12:21 PM
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People refuse to stop using their services, even with their horrible privacy. They've slightly bettered their policies, so those people have no reason to stop.

I use FB, but I have very little information on it. If people would stop putting every detail pertaining to their lives out in the open on the web, they would have a lot less reason to complain.

gm0n3y 06/05/2010 12:21 PM
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pinkfloydminnesota :
People who complain about Facebook's privacy settings and continue to use it are just like people who complain about kids peeing in the city pool and continue to swim in it.Facebook will always violate your privacy, kids will always pee in the city pool, and if you use free services you should expect to get some urine on your body.


Two things:

1) Pools aren't free, at least not where I live.
2) I don't use Facebook (because of the privacy issues) and I end up missing out on a lot of things because of it. I feel that gives me the right to complain.

kingssman 06/05/2010 12:43 PM
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I'm going out on the limb here and say that if your Obsessed with your own narcism and vanity, then you should have no right to privacy.

What i'm conveying is people who post every little detail about their personal lives on the web,(going on a 7day vacation, left door unlocked) post their address, work, school, home phone#, personal email, work email, into a searchable public database. Add every stranger as a "friend", post pictures of yourself doing stupid things on the internet and tag it "Me Getting so stoned off my balls" and post it as your "status update / profile pic" THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!

its like geeze.. and everyone is scared that the government is violating privacy when in fact anybody with google can get your name, birthday, SS# because you willingly posted them online.

toastninja17 06/05/2010 12:52 PM
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Really should be more along the lines of "exceptional".
Either way, doesn't stop me from using facebook and my iPhone, my two main hubs for communication.

duckmanx88 06/05/2010 1:12 AM
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and BP is great at oil drilling. -__-

gm0n3y 06/05/2010 1:27 AM
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kingssman :
I'm going out on the limb here and say that if your Obsessed with your own narcism and vanity, then you should have no right to privacy.What i'm conveying is people who post every little detail about their personal lives on the web,(going on a 7day vacation, left door unlocked) post their address, work, school, home phone#, personal email, work email, into a searchable public database. Add every stranger as a "friend", post pictures of yourself doing stupid things on the internet and tag it "Me Getting so stoned off my balls" and post it as your "status update / profile pic" THEN OF COURSE YOU HAVE NO PRIVACY!!its like geeze.. and everyone is scared that the government is violating privacy when in fact anybody with google can get your name, birthday, SS# because you willingly posted them online.


The reason I'm not on facebook is more for what other people post about me / link to me. I don't want all those photos of me showing up linked to my profile. I tell my friends not to upload any photo with me in it, but they always do, even my gf does. I worked in the IT sector and I want my personal life hidden from my employers / potential employers.

JOSHSKORN 06/05/2010 2:20 AM
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It's like Hot Coffee is...yeah, you guessed it. Hot! Don't spill it on yourself. Like mama always said, "Be careful, don't burn." Listen to mama. It's also like trusting a computer to give you accurate directions. Carry a damn Thomas Guide with you. If you're concerned about Facebook Privacy, well, maybe you shouldn't be on Facebook. If it's your way of communicating with your friend, well, delete your account, make a new one with NO profile information, add your friends and DON'T POST. No one is forcing you to "Share" thoughts w/ your friends on Facebook. It's your own damn fault.

Dkz 06/05/2010 2:46 AM
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Hum, if every sucker who complains would close their account facebook would die in a heartbeat.
I did it, its not a big deal, the problem is some people live for facebook lol, sad.

aaron686 06/05/2010 6:36 AM
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I guess hackers do a "Reasonable" job too:P

kingnoobe 06/05/2010 6:57 AM
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If you don't use FB you have no right to complain about it. To say you do makes no sense. Not to mention IT'S FREE!, and not mandatory to have for everyday living. Bitching about something that's free you people should've had your ass whipped more as kids.

cybrcatter 06/05/2010 7:21 AM
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It's too bad there's a punk kid running what is becoming an extremely influential platform.

Caffeinecarl 06/05/2010 9:28 AM
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I'm not advocating people leaving their phone numbers or addresses out in the open on public profiles, but Facebook does leave a lot to be desired when it comes to privacy. If you don't want a profile that's basically naked, you're going to end up with some stuff in it that will turn into hot buttons for advertisers to push. Examples: Favorite bands, movies, books, hobbies, etc...

Better privacy controls, and better user judgment put together should be able to solve the problem without leaving gaping loopholes open. Instead, they share anything and everything we might just happen to post about ourselves, even the basic stuff.

When diligent users and "improved" privacy controls are still resulting in abuse, then there's a problem.

randoMIZER 06/05/2010 9:34 AM
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Facebook controversy will never pass here in Australia. Every second news story is about another Facebook "outrage." Privacy is only half of the supposed problem, the police are pressuring Facebook to ban (yes, BAN) minors from putting up tribute pages to dead friends/relatives because some troll comes along and says something nasty, creating more repetitive news headlines.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/ [...] 5875745548

simple_inhibition 06/05/2010 10:54 AM
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I still wouldnt mind to see this jackass get mule kicked in the baby maker

descendency 06/05/2010 11:20 AM
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duckmanx88 :
and BP is great at oil drilling. -__-


They are... haven't you seen all of that oil in the Gulf of Mexico? I think the problem is that they are not very good at oil collecting.

Oh, and I hope we aren't "dumb f***s" for believing him.

littlec 06/05/2010 5:19 PM
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Yeah it's stupid to use FB and then complain about it's security problems. BUT, most people just use FB now. There are not many other options right now as far as having all your friends on some sort of social media. I think they (FB) should be more responsible when securing their services. However, you won't find me complaining about it if my account gets hacked, I've been aware of the security issues and keep a lookout. I also make weekly backups of my page in case the worst happens.

orionantares 06/05/2010 6:40 PM
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It's really not that hard to keep your info secure, don't provide information you don't want the general public to have access to.

IFLATLINEI 06/05/2010 7:45 PM
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toastninja17 :
Really should be more along the lines of "exceptional".Either way, doesn't stop me from using facebook and my iPhone, my two main hubs for communication.



Reminds me of Googles WiFi data story. All these people claiming invasion of privacy but they are all the ones who left their networks open.

zmbcat 06/05/2010 8:22 PM
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I dont really see any problems with fb privacy...dont frikkin add "sensitive" data about yourself and you are fine. If its a "professional" account, where you post links to your articles or whatever then you dot have anything to hide anyway.

Of course there is the problem of all kinds of silly stuff being posted, but you can filter that out or in worst case - delete/remove yourself from tags, if you care that much.

techguy378 06/05/2010 8:36 PM
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If you choose to put your life story on the internet then you have no right to privacy. Facebook can legally eliminate all of their privacy controls. If this happened then there might not be anyone on Facebook, but it's certainly legal. If you don't want a specific person knowing something about you then don't put it on your Facebook or Myspace page. If you do and that person finds out about it then it's your own fault and nobody else's.

Dirtman73 06/05/2010 8:49 PM
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Facebook is for sheep. Don't complain when the wolf comes calling.

eddieroolz 06/06/2010 11:09 AM
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For those still using facebook; QUIT NOW. Before this buffoon gains total control of your data.

I've quit two weeks ago, and I frankly don't miss it one bit. I've been perfectly fine; in fact, better since people I don't care about stopped bugging me.

To Zuckerberg: Your standard of "reasonable" must be very, very low.

wonspur 06/07/2010 8:17 AM
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gm0n3y :
Two things:1) Pools aren't free, at least not where I live.2) I don't use Facebook (because of the privacy issues) and I end up missing out on a lot of things because of it. I feel that gives me the right to complain.



That argument wasnt even targeting you, because he was talking about people who use facebook... good day sir.

c00lit 06/07/2010 2:32 PM
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People just love to complain, don't like it, get out of facebook...

I use facebook, I post pictures of chalet vacations or whatnot for my friends...

I understand those who get out of facebook, but frankly, I don't care about anything I post on facebook... As I would not post it if it was private.

(I will however laugh and facepalm myself if I see an internet add with my face on it... but I don't expect it to be that bad... if it is o well, then I close)

tommysch 06/07/2010 3:24 PM
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1984

fozzyfozborne 06/07/2010 7:20 PM
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Who cares about privacy on FB? Don't post anything you wouldn't want 300 million people to know. It's simple: if someone wants your phone number, give it to them individually. No one needs to know any illegal activity you're currently doing, so don't post it. I also don't get the vendetta against advertisement based on what you like. Isn't that the best form of advertisement? Would you rather see irrelevant adds? There's always adblock plus which is free and blocks nearly every ad on the internet.