FBI Wants ISPs to Keep Record of Sites You Visit

Holy Invasion of Privacy, Batman!

suck us fbi

So much for the internet freedom the government was just preaching last week in the Google case, huh?

Being from Canada makes me very greatful for a moderate government who hasn't gone completely mad with power since 9/11.

I motion that the FBI go ahead and kiss my butt.

They could just ask my Big Brother for the list. ...er...yeah.

FBI = bunch of greedy well-paid hypocrit monkeys dressed in trendy expensive black suit armed to the teeth.

Still, they are monkeys.

Come on. The government already has this information in some form.

Yeah...I don't see his head on a stick and body burning at the stake in riots anytime soon. They must think people in the U.S. are bigger sheeple than the Chinese.

I guess that means the NSA isn't sharing information with the FBI....

This is not Constitutional and should not be allowed.

Is this any different from the FBI/Police obtaining a subpoena for phone records, which are kept for some time by the telephone companies?

Don't they already keep track of what sites we visit? In the name of pirating that is.

I don't have a problem with this type of invasion of privacy as long as there is leniency and descression. I think if the ISP kept the record and a court order needed to be issued, it would probably help them catch the bad guys moreso than hurt the good guys.

On the other hand, if it leads to the FBI busting people for going to porn sites or downloading a song or 2, the FBI agents should be arrested for waisting our tax dollars.

As far as email traffic etc., I have always treated emails that I have sent out as relatively public anyway. I think the ones mostly against this kind of thing are the bleeding hearts and the ones who have something to hide.

... On an totally different tack... 2 years of the entire countries access records? They need to invest in quantum hard drives to record that sort of data... or do it the American way and record only a tiny, useless quantity of it. :E I love my country!

This isn't really anything new. Several federal agencies have been making similar requests for quite a while. There are some agencies that already monitor some types of communications. Most of the recent published articles were about comminications related to the war on terrorism and domestic terrorism. Perhaps this time the FBI wants to know who visited the web site that explains how to make homemade bombs.

What???? I think they just want to make it formal. they are already doing it. FBI go look for osama!

In many cases, the URL fully determines the content of the communication, for all practical purposes.

chomlee, nothing mandates leniency and discression.

sucks to be those guys in the fbi who will have to monitor millions of americans daily use of the internet lol

Those logs would be huge. For me alone, the list would have around 58400 sites. (Assuming that i visit 80 sites a day {divide that by a computer heavy 4 member family, thats 20 sites each, which is probably minimum} x 730, Also take into account me and my sister are stumbleupon addicts, i probbaly visit 20 in a 5 minutes when i'm seriously bored.)

Well, I suppose freedom is not free, but still, comon!

if every person in the US visited 100 ip addresses each day it would be about
300,000,000 people X 365 days/yr X 100 ip addresses/person * 15 Bytes/address
=164 terrabytes/year

See, thats not so bad

How about this, monitor registered offenders for 50 years and leave the rest of us alone.

so is this going to be taken out of our paychecks too?

I think its kind of overkill to require all history to be recorded for 2 years...

While I can see the merit behind their reasoning isn't there some sort of white/black list out there for sites with questionable content?

If a person uses the internet for legitimate purposes and browses legal content I honestly don't think their browsing history should be accessible, from the looks of it the FBI just wants to profile every american citizen regardless if their activity is illegal or not. Seems a bit too 'big brother' to me.

Next thing they'll want is to know is every book, movie and newspaper you read. When you take your washroom breaks, etc, etc.

What will they do when all the logs are lost in a tragic boating accident?

This is BS. We might as well live in a communist country.

how the hell does child porno work if some of us are also children X_X

this is like putting lipstick on a bear to descise it

anyway there just anoying im glad i live in the uk where they can't affect me that much

ive just had an idea wont this boost sales for tunneling sites?
the isp's cant track us if we tunnel everthing.
first thing this brings to mind is ssh tunneling heeck we allready have the tech to do it


if i lived in usa i would tunnel everthing through an ssh tunnel or soemthing in another country

The Future is here.
THX 1138.