Cyber Attack on U.S. Means Thorough Butt Kicking
Source: Tom's Guide US | Keywords: US, Cyber, Attack, Kinetic | Themes: The Internet
US Air Force General Kevin Chilton said on Thursday that the military will not rule out physical aggression against any "force" that attacks the United States through the internet.
U.S. Air Force General Kevin Chilton said on Thursday that the military will not rule out physical aggression against any "force" that attacks the United States through the internet. Chilton, who heads the U.S. Strategic Command, told reporters at a press briefing that the Law of Armed Conflict still applies to the virtual domain even though the initial attack is not physical. The media briefing comes at the heels of a report from weeks ago that North Korea has built a cyber assault force aimed to disrupt South Korea and United States military networks.
"I don’t think you take anything off the table when you provide options to the president to decide," said Chilton, according to Stars and Stripes. "You don’t take any response options off the table from an attack on the United States of America. Why would we constrain ourselves on how we would respond?"
Currently hackers are probing the military's unclassified networks for information that includes personnel and medical records--usually over a thousand times a day--rather than attempting to attack and crash the networks altogether. Chilton said that current threats range from specific nations, to criminals, down to bored teenagers looking for a little hacking fun. But no matter the origin, the threats are real, however he believes that the military's cyber defense is improving, and will require more sophisticated networks--many of which will need additional resources--as time progresses.
"And so that would logically take you to the probably bigger threats, would be nation-state approach or a well funded, well organized, well educated and equipped other organization that may be a non nation-state that had that capability," he said.
Ultimately, the decision to attack "kinetically" would rest upon the president and Defense secretary. For now, there's a debate on whether to join the Pentagon's two cyber commands: the Joint Task Force-Global Network Operations, and the Joint Functional Component Commander-Network Warfare managed by the National Security Agency. By merging both the offense and defense branches, the US Strategic Command would need 2,000 to 4,000 more employees. President Barack Obama and U.S. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates have yet to decide on the outcome.
Although Chilton did not specify any offensive "nations" during the press briefing, it's widely known that many attacks on the US networks stem from servers in the People's Republic of China. On that same note, sources report that the technology reconnaissance team created by the General Staff of North Korean People's Army visits U.S. military sites more frequently than any other country.
Is there a cyber war on the horizon? From a conspiracy theorist point of view, various reports released over the last few weeks point in that direction. Chilton said that members of the U.S. military service need to think of their computers as the "front lines" as if stepping to the guard gate of a military base.
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World War 3 will be fought on the web?
They say, "the meek shall inherit the earth." I guess the geeks will be the ones to destroy it.
Omg, is the US gonna really nuke some 12 year old script kiddie in it's parent basement?
Watch it script kiddies, next time you want to press enter to nuke some server, the army might just press the big red button and nuke you back!
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Take that North Korea! That will shut down your power stations for many years to come! (probably 7...
Thousand!)
'Cause the U.S. is a "Equal opportunity ass-kicker".
...silos needed...
That the military is finally taking this seriously, seems really sad....but i hope they do a damn good job!
What sources report north Korea visits US sites more then any other? I have seen this over and over, but never have seen a citation.
Yea I havnt heard any proof that its North Karea but whoever it was they managed to steal alot of Top Secret project documents.
Honestly maybe its something like this that will wake them up.
The real first attack will no longer be by land, sea, or air it will be by web. Were building the smart grid here in Cali. and that can be hacked and shutdown Via web. The old controls for alot of military comms used to be all internal but now its IP based.
So it is reasonable to believe that the initial attack could be a hack to shut down parts of defenses or at least cripple broadcasts so people dont know whats happening across the country.
I LOL'd.
Hey, what if, in the future, war was fought through a video game? Like, every country had tons of gamers that just duked it out.
Nahh. But that'd be cool.
And everyone would "forget" to give China the patch.
usa usa usa all the way basic it mean don't screw wit usa caz be beat you dispite my horrible spelling and grammar lol
I'd say fight fire with fire. Assemble an expert team of hackers and hack into North Korean network and cause devastating damage.
If they have Windows, disable it completely with help from Microsoft.
Why not that instead of engaging in costly physical war?
I'd say fight fire with fire. Assemble an expert team of hackers and hack into North Korean network and cause devastating damage.If they have Windows, disable it completely with help from Microsoft. Why not that instead of engaging in costly physical war?
Uh they already have that. They've got 1 agency for offence and 1 for defence "Joint Task Force-Global Network Operations, and the Joint Functional Component Commander-Network Warfare".
The article merely says that they could potentially physically strike in retaliation to a cyber attack. Which seems perfectly reasonable to be honest. A lot of other nations aren't as computerised as the states so a cyber attack in retaliation against them would be near ineffective.
...silos needed...
We require additional pylons.
Just look at your firewall logs! Ping the ip addresses that are port scanning you, its scary what you will find. But its not all China and North Korea traffic either, a lot of it comes from here within the US.
Great, now they don't even need to fake a terrorist attack to start a war.
Look out world!
lol Zoonie. It must be tough going through life without a brain.
Hey does that mean I "will not rule out physical aggression against any "force" that attacks" Like say intrusive isp's and/or local, state, and government agentcies. I am just wondering how they are going to tell the difference between "specific nations, to criminals, down to bored teenagers looking for a little hacking fun." Perhaps more importantly the way they choose to deal with each these "common threats". Oh who am I kidding. Might as well move my systems down to the bomb shelter now.
In the movies you always see that the (US) military is the hardest to hack.
If they really would use their brain, they would disconnect their military network from the internet completely. Isolate it.
Then N Korea can spend their all resources with hacking all day long, without result...
There's currently nothing better than an offline computer. Or an intranet.
I'm sure if they wanted they could do things like this.
In the movies you always see that the (US) military is the hardest to hack.If they really would use their brain, they would disconnect their military network from the internet completely. Isolate it.Then N Korea can spend their all resources with hacking all day long, without result...There's currently nothing better than an offline computer. Or an intranet.I'm sure if they wanted they could do things like this.
Why do that when they can just turn off the whole internet?
*waves around a little American flag, marching in tones of leetspeak*
Being prior service and reading this makes me chuckle. A nervous yet childishly innocent, chuckle.
lol Zoonie. It must be tough going through life without a brain.
Yeah, I guess I am brainless. I wrote my comment knowing that it would get thumbs down from hillbillies like yourself. Go Bush! Right?
Please educate yourself on the effects of war on national economy, and perhaps a few details about the recent history of warfare. Then we can discuss this further.
Btw, how many tons of 'nu-cu-lar' weapons did Iraq have, Billy-Bob? Since I'm brainless I have a hard time remembering the exact figure.
It's no secret that countries like China and North Korea have entire teams of engineers working on hacking US military networks. It's a much different landscape than 10 years ago, hacking is no longer a hobbyist interest -- it is an global tool used by various government and military leaders.
Look at the attacks on Georgia by Russia -- the Georgian governments website got hacked as well -- the Russians used it as another tool in their arsenel.
Do you really think that the USA is not trying to hack computers in China, Russia, Israel, UK, France, etc?
I have the anser to all of this .... Spawn more overlords!!!!
But in all honesty if anyone tells you that this hacking and counter hacking thing is just getting started. Smack them. This has been going on for years. Trying to stop it is like trying to erasse google its just not gonna happen. This is just the latest big thing to happen.
I have the anser to all of this .... Spawn more overlords!!!!
But in all honesty if anyone tells you that this hacking and counter hacking thing is just getting started. Smack them. This has been going on for years. Trying to stop it is like trying to erasse google its just not gonna happen. This is just the latest big thing to happen.
it has been taking it seriously for quite some time.In fact the net is the militaries origin, fools. Quiet as a hacker....if anyone remembers the 1990s to now, it is indeed a world of difference, much better and safer, and defense had everything to do with it. I can only assume military related games added to this. keep hacking kids, it only feeds evolution.
Send out the Raptor. $350,000 laser guided missle to shoot down a Pentium II with 40GB HD and 512MB ram hacker workstation. It's sad to say but I think a hacker in the future has more offense than a Raptor or any jet fighter. Let's hope the Air Force has more sense that they need better computer systems running proprietary operating systems rather than Windows BOB... I mean XP.
Btw, how many tons of 'nu-cu-lar' weapons did Iraq have, Billy-Bob?
Errr, according to the latest available figures, the total amount would be approximately ... ZERO
However, and much to everyone's surprise, they turned out to have a lot of oil
/sarcasm
'Cause the U.S. is a "Equal opportunity ass-kicker".
+ 1 for the Duke Nukem Forever (a.k.a. DNF) quote