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TechCrunch Accuses Tech Investors of Collusion

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

Are Silicon Valley's high profile angel investors involved in a price-fixing scheme to keep investment prices down?

TechCrunch's Michael Arrington last night blogged about crashing a dinner meeting that involved at least 10 of Silicon Valley's biggest angel investors. Arrington was tipped off about the "super angels" meeting at San Francisco's Bin 38 and told not to come because he would not be welcome. Despite his source's warning, Michael went along anyway. To say he was surprised by what he found is an understatement.

Arrgington says he walked into the restaurant and saw 10 or more of the Valley's biggest angel investors. He says he knew every person in the room "very, very well" and expected to be asked to sit down and share a drink before "being shooed off while they talked about whatever they thought should be kept off record." That is not what happened.

Michael says he was greeted by cold silence, and couldn't get a friendly greeting out of anyone, never mind an invitation to join them for a pre-dinner drink. Arrington left, tweeted about how weird it was (of course), and wrote that he'd never seen a group of more guilty looking people.

Arrington later rang around and spoke to several people in attendance at the dinner in Bin 38. Mike cites these people as saying the meeting was just one in a series of regular meetings held by this group of investors. Though the tradition started innocently enough (they apparently mostly met up to complain), the TechCrunch founder says it has quickly evolved into a game of collusion and price fixing. Mike's sources say that though they are uneasy with the meetings and only go to gather information, these dinners include talk of how to keep prices down.

Arrington's post has made a big splash and considering his description of the people in the room ("10 or so of the highest profile angel investors in Silicon Valley"), it's not hard to arrive at names for a couple of likely attendees. However, at least one investor in attendance has dubbed the TechCrunch story "horseshit," and "bullshit," as well as stating that Mike is, "dead fucking wrong" about there being a collusion scandal.

Dave McClure of 500 Investors writes:

"- yesterday i was invited to a dinner with some well-known startup investors to discuss the latest & greatest in tech & startups. the agenda was drinks, good food, & shooting the shit... it wasn't to collude, to price fix, to put out a hit on Paul Graham, or generally bust a cap in any founder's ass (ok maybe Zuck & Jobs have it coming, but people might notice if we shoved them furtively into Davy Jones' Locker).Yes: it was a private affair, and No: mike wasn't invited. neither was Barack Obama, your mom, nor any of 500 other friggin' awesome people in silicon valley or around the world.  meh... whatever -- i don't get to go to every cool kid party in the valley either.  sorry, mike... but if you want, i'll knock one back with you before we go onstage Monday morning at Disrupt."

McClure goes on to admit that start-ups and investors "bitch and moan about price/valuation" all day long but is adamant that it's nothing more sinister than that and insists that most of the conversation at dinner was very mundane. McClure is not alone in his claims that nothing untoward is going on. Fred Wilson of Union Square Ventures says that though he wasn't there, he doesn't believe anything is going on either.

"[In the angel/seed market] Deals are widely syndicated and it is common for everyone who is interested in a given deal to get into it. In that kind of market, collusion is entirely possible.

And yet I don't think that is happening. The very fact that some of the most active and respected angels in silicon valley were meeting to discuss the changing dynamic of their business suggests to me that the opposite is happening. I suspect that the good old days when they could all get together and do a deal are gone. And they are not happy about what they see happening to their market. I wasn't at the meeting and I don't know for sure what was discussed. But I know most of these investors and I know what is on their minds right now."

Michael Arrington has yet to comment on either of blog posts above.

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gilbertfh 09/22/2010 11:51 PM
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Next in news Michael Arrington reported missing...

das_stig 09/22/2010 11:53 PM
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You know the saying "If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, its a duck!"

Smells iffy to me!

Graham_71 09/23/2010 12:01 PM
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If all is above board then why was Michael greeted by cold silence from everyone ?

Smells iffy to me too!

azcoyote 09/23/2010 1:15 AM
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Or it could be that Michael Arrington is an asshole and has burned a ton of bridges and caused a lot of strife. Showing up uninvited anywhere is pretty uncouth. I don't see the evil yet. Not saying it isn't possible but the source is more iffy than the story.

jeraldjunkmail 09/23/2010 1:26 AM
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So does this mean we should be buying shares in these investment companies if they are going to make a huge profit? I don't think this will start an investigation, so.....

sykozis 09/23/2010 5:38 AM
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Sounds to me like Arrington is just pissed off that he wasn't invited to a private party that was quite frankly none of his business anyway.

dark_knight33 09/23/2010 8:08 AM
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Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein weren't invited to the Watergate investigation either, and I suppose that was none of their business anyway. Good thing nobody was doing anything wrong and then trying to cover it up.

Anonymous 09/23/2010 1:01 PM
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So Arrogant (sorry, Arrington) put 2 and 2 together to come up with 5 - as usual. More nonsense from this idiot.

tommysch 09/23/2010 2:33 PM
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They are as innocent as O.J.

Anonymous 09/23/2010 3:10 PM
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Seriously Tomshardware.com, why do you keep writing stories about this asshat Michael Arrington. Do you owe him money or something? Nobody cares about him or TechCrunch and their lame failed tablet. Move on people.

failboat 09/23/2010 6:04 PM
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Who would meet in public to commit felonies? This guy didn't hear anything. I think the article is fishy. Maybe, this guy trashed them, because they wouldn't invite him for a drink.

chomlee 09/23/2010 8:20 PM
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This doesn't sound to me like price fixing, I would think that would be done in closed doors, not at a public restaraunt.

Having said that, I do believe there is market manipulation, but I think it is more like hedge fund leaders getting the press to come out with articles of "labor report is bleak" - stock goes down, then they buy, then they tell the press to say "labor report shows increase", then stock goes up, then they sell. Seriously, if you look at the stock prices in the past 6 months, there have been swings of 20-30% back and forth at least 4 times this year all which were reactions to supposed "labor and real estate reports"

In this case, the guy didn't give any proof, on why they were having a price meeting only that they were hush hush when he walked in. What do you expect when you are told you aren't welcome at a particular function.