Microsoft Source Claims Xbox 720 Arriving in 2013

Sounds good. Hopefully they overhauled it compared to the 360 and again hopefully it will have a much lower failure rate that the 360.

Late 2005 the 360 was launched... Late 2013 the 720 will come...

That's an 8 year lifetime... you can raise a small child in that time...

Sick of new trend to base games around the controls - touchscreen, accelerometer, gyroscope, Kinect... FFS, I only want games with graphics, gameplay and storyline, I don't give a $h!t about how "cool" and "innovative" the controller is. So screw you, 720, but then again, did I expect anything different?

I hope the GPU can at least faster than my GTX570.

Well there goes the 2012 hype, on to my 2012 PC build which will crush the xbox 720 even if comes out a year after. I was really hoping for a 2012 release, not that i wouldn't have built a PC in that time frame as well just would of made more sense, these long life cycles are really slowing down the industry as a whole since consoles control the market on innovation. Its like buying a Honda and getting the same model with the same features for 8 years.. Ridiculous.

I hope it's better than GTX580s in Triple SLI mode and fully capable of playing games taking full advantage of the Unreal 4 engine.

I also hope they change the name a bit. "720" might look a bit "dated", as it pertains to resolution. Maybe the XBOX 1080?

Hopefully it will have: Kinect built in, backward compatibility with XBOX and XBOX 360 games

Also, I hope they port more XBOX games (like the newer versions of Halo) to PC.

I will stick to my PC and HTPC for the moment thanks.

It is about time but I think they are doing it all wrong again and they will most likely continue doing it wrong... Now I'm not saying I know how they should be done but I have a few ideas that could make things better

#1 Bring out a base console every 10 years
Reason: With so many cores they will have on Chip you really don't need that much more horsepower PC these days don't use all 4 Cores let alone an I7 920 with Hyper-threading simulating 8 Cores

#2 with in those 10 years once a year release a user upgradeable video card
Reason: This will stop the gap we are seeing now consoles are 12 Generations behind what PC builders can get and by the time new consoles come out we will be looking at 14-15 Gens

This is how they can be Easily Implemented
have 3 Choices Good, Better ,Best
when the new line comes up get rid of Good shift those down and add one more powerful card as best.

Next so you don't confuse people
Rank Video games on said system a 1.1 would be launch video cards at least the Good video card to play where as a 1.3 would be launch video cards Best video card in lineup with the next cards come out 2.X,3.X Ect Ect Ect
This will lead to better consoles it may put more pressure on Game makers but they are big boys they can handle it and it gives them a better market for games

We all have friends that praise consoles for what good graphics they have.... all of my friends have been over and seen what my 5770 can show with with Tessellation enabled and they are blown away and they always ask the same question When will my PS3/XBOX be able to do that? and i tell them wait until the PS4/Next xbox and then maybe it will be able to do it

Essentially what you are saying is the basics of what a PC is, the best way they could do it is to make a basic PC with a set specification, have deals with the manufacturers to continue making and supporting the specific parts and have all games for this PC as the minimum requirements. they could even release for this PC a specific OS that allows the games to be hot playable from disc rather than HDD installed if it was to be used on a fully functional PC OS to cater to the living room and console style playing.

a system like this would maintain backwards compatibility and also allow future upgrades if the user wished. but console manufacturers would never do this because they prefer the money they make on their closed systems.

And the mention on 4 core processors, a lot of new games can utilise or even need 4 cores to function at their best, the xbox 360 even has 3 cores in its CPU

Cool! Maybe now we can get some good DX11 pc games... since pc exclusives are few and far between now a days.

I am... Looks like he'll be getting a Wii this Christmas ($120) and maybe I'll get the PS3 next year.

xbox 720 = most likely a code name, but would be stupid to use it.

Nintendo and Sony still have better exclusive franchises.

I'm not a console gamer, but I might buy a PS4 if it has backwards compatibility.

If the PS4 isn't backwards capable for ps3 games, I will officially boycott it, despite how I feel about the XBox.
So guys, the PS3 has 5 (working) cores (and a 6th secondary core) running at 3.2 GHz (core2 speed for reference), but the graphics chip is nearly identical to the XBox one, which is why most of the games run at the same quality as the XBox. We shouldn't worry about what processor the next-gen will have, but instead what GPU they will have. I'm banking on at least the 7000 series AMD cores.

Poor kid, trained for inferior gaming from the childhood

New console hardware = Better PC games? God I hope so...

You guys are expecting triple SLI 580GTX power? The original XBOX was like a GeForce4, the 360 was like a 7600, so if they can get the juice of a single 570 out of it, the games will look amazing. I think the games look amazing now. 2011 was an great year for gaming, do you really think the current gen life cycle is dead?

As long as the GPU can pop out 1080P at 60fps with the equivalent of DX10 it will already have been a quantum leap above the current generation of consoles, and you can already manage that with 4 year old GPU.

Until consoles are required to push out to 4K screens of the future they will not require anything like the power of a 580GTX.

If you really, really, really want super-duper hi-res gaming with all the best visual effects
... buy a PC

(citation needed)

That's a lot of hoping!!

Is is more like a ATI Radeon X1900/X1950.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenos_%28graphics_chip%29

He just turned 7 years old. He does like playing it at other people's home and its physical... and its $120 brand new. When I get a PS3 or PS4 (since PC gaming has gone to crap), he'll be able to use it... it'll be on the main TV.

Besides, he has his own desktop PC: AMD PII Quad core, 4GB DDR2 and an ATI 4670 video card... so he's doing pretty good on that end.

All of you complaining that the console holds back the PC games need to divert your anger towards your game makers. It is their laziness and greed that they do not provide what they should to the PC industry.

Graphics are minor, they ALWAYS do graphics at extremely high resolutions. The hardware is then left to do the rendering - as it should be.

Game play is the big issue and when developers ignore the PC and design games for both the consoles and PC using pretty much one model for both, that is their greed and laziness being implemented. That is not the fault of console hardware being years old.

The reality of it is that we can have consoles that last years and developers can cater to them as well as the latest and greatest PC's by separating the 2 when they need to be separated.

I would buy one if it could render old xbox 360 games at 1080p internal resolution, and of course play them perfectly, that would be worth it.

It seems everyone here wants a PC for gaming. However, you are in the minority group of which game developers do not care about. There is a reason why most viruses are written for Windows platform, its the biggest target. Why would a game developer spend time on a PC game when it too is a small market without a guarantee on investment?

As for others here that believe game console makers should make upgradable parts like video cards, look back at Sega and the Genesis platform... They started with the 16Bit Genesis, then added the Sega CD module, then added the 32X. The later became a major flop for them even though it extended color palette and processing power. This also caused fragmentation in the games for that system. No one in the industry is willing to take that chance, this is one of the things that killed Sega which is now just another developer....

"No single device has put all the entertainment people want in the living room in one place like this...."

Dear Microsoft,

Here are the absolute NON-NEGOTIABLE items that MUST be in the new console to truly fit you above goal.

1.) Future minded CPU and GPUs (take page from Sony) that will stand the test of time for another 8 - 10 years. Your 360 has some really nice looking games and developers have really pushed the edge with some game engines, but...you show your age now. Esp next to what PS3 games have been doing in the last 2 years.

2.) Full 1080p capability and HDMI port

3.) built in Wi-Fi, no adapters, no "extras" that need purchased

4.) Go back to the side or top mounted easily upgraded changed HDDs.

5.) BLU-RAY capability. Sorry Microsoft, it won. Its here and its staying. If you truely want a single source box that I play games, connect to your online community, watch TV via your partners, and Netflix etc and use your box for my entertainment needs, that needs to include home video and thats Blu-Ray

6.) Last but NOT least...FULL backward compatibility with previous Xbox and 360 libraries. Again take a page from Sony's early model, there is a reason its successful I can play my PS1 and PS2 games on it as well as the new hotness.

If you can do all that, I promise you while we may go ZOMG at first, we will all come around and gladly pay even $500 for that if need be (but all the above for $399.99 should be possible).

Thank You for hearing us

Sincerely,

Your Devoted XBox360 user base

so we will get good next generation graphics for games(for pc) in 2014

Quite literally the only reason I get excited for new consoles. So developers stop screwing PC users with ports that were developed on nearly decade old CPU and GPU processors.



Obviously the majority of people here want consoles to be on par with PCs. IT'S A PC NEWS BASED WEBSITE. We want developers to design their games from the PC side standpoint ground up. We don't want your crappy ports or your artificially decayed textures. We want more companies to be like DICE and keep the PC user in mind. Just because we enjoy the hobby of tinkering with PC's and pushing our systems as much as we can as well as other things, doesn't mean we have to settle for ports and "just deal with it". Video games originated on the PC and is here to stay.



Huh? What does making games have anything to do with viruses? Try wrapping your little head around this article: http://www.destructoid.com/pc-vs-c [...] 2611.phtml

Please, if anything the console bronachos are jumping ship for web browser games or going over to live streaming services that are run off a computer anyways.

/rant off

It's that time again.... you know when MS puts it's foot in Apples axx as apple stays proprietary and tries too hard to control it's eco-system, it's cool in the get go before the industry adopts standards, but once again MS will rule the roost.

Calling it Xbox 720 is beyond stupid.

Agreed, but I predict a greater likelihood that it will be flame war between Sony and MS fan-boys over who will have the best next-gen console.

You checked out Honda lately? Kind of what's going on.