Next Nintendo Console With Blu-ray, Quad CPU?
Nintendo may reveal the Wii successor this June.
Immediately after the Game Developers Conference concluded on Friday in San Francisco, rumors began to surface that Nintendo may reveal its next console in June at E3 2011. The news isn't surprising given that the current Nintendo Wii is now coming down off the console mountain as reigning retail king, giving way to Microsoft's Xbox 360. The Wii also turns 5-years-old this year, meaning Nintendo is due for a hardware refresh soon.
The rumored new console from Nintendo isn't anything new. As Nintendo boss Satoru Iwata said years ago, "We are always preparing for the next hardware. We are under development." Indeed, that's the case with all three: launching one product while beginning on the next. Given that, unless otherwise stated (like Sega did just a few years after the launch of its incredible Dreamcast console), development of new hardware is simply a given.
That said, it's a matter of when and what's it got? Over the last year, the company has beaten down speculation that it was working on an HD version of the Wii console. Instead, Nintendo claims it's working on something completely new that's now rumored to feature a Blu-ray optical drive, a quad-core processor, and a mobile projector. That's right, a projector that will shoot HD (and 3D?) graphics onto a wall. That's an interesting concept, eliminating the need for an additional HDTV, but how will the built-in projector affect the overall cost? Will it be a peripheral instead? Will gamers even have enough wall space to even utilize such a feature?
In any case, E3 2011 seems to be the logical date for revealing the next console if Nintendo plans to launch the device this holiday season. But an E3 2011 reveal also depends on the current number of Wii units sold in the States thus far, as Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime said that "after we've reached an installed base of 45 million here in the U.S., we can have a conversation about the next generation." Surely Nintendo will have raked in its required 45 million before June-- more than 30 million units had sold as of December 2010.
Nintendo has also stated in previous years that it won't reveal the next console unless it can truly set itself from its market rivals in a surprising way-- just as the Wii did, sparking copycats from Microsoft and Sony like the Kinect and Move. On the other hand, various developers have indicated that Nintendo may bring stereoscopic 3D to the next platform. 3DS project lead Hideki Konno, who pointed to Nintendo's experiment with 3D on the Famicom consoles (aka NES), said that the company has been considering 3D for over 20 years.
"Nintendo doesn't give up," Konno said. "That's the Nintendo style, the Miyamoto style."
Unfortunately, we may not know anything truly solid until right before E3 2011. "It is really important for our business to positively surprise people," Iwata previously said. "Will you be surprised by our completed product if we told you how it is surprising three years in advance? Therefore, we basically disclose information on our products as late as possible."
Get ready, gamers. It's going to be a long three months.
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I better have upgradable storage such as a hard drive or ssd. Second it better have a lot of ram upfront for better game development and longer life.
That's to be expected, considering that BD-ROM is going to become the default delivery system.
The only reason I can see for it to include a projector is to also include polarization style 3D effects. This would enable cheap glasses. This is certainly much different than any other console, and would greatly distinguish it from the crowd.
This looks pretty interesting
"The Wii also turns 5-years-old this year, meaning Nintendo is due for a hardware refresh soon."
"But an E3 2011 reveal also depends on the current number of Wii units sold in the States thus far, as Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime said that "after we've reached an installed base of 45 million here in the U.S., we can have a conversation about the next generation." Surely Nintendo will have raked in its required 45 million before June-- more than 30 million units had sold as of December 2010."
So 5 years to hit 30 million, and you expect another 50% in 6 months? What fantasy world are you from?
If I see Wii-type of games in PS3 graphic quality or better, I have no reason not to have one at home.
I hope it will come true.
"Surely Nintendo will have raked in its required 45 million before June-- more than 30 million units had sold as of December 2010."
30 million over 4+ year period, but you expect them to get another 15 million in 6 months?!?
I have no idea what Nintendo can do to beat Kinect (and to a lesser degree, Move). If they just pump out newer hardware with 3D support, that won't be enough. As for a projector, what about people that don't have the wall space or don't have white colored walls (I can't think of anyone I know that does). Imagine how poorly this would sell in space-starved Japan if it required free wall space. I could see them selling a peripheral 3D projector that is just some rebrand of another company's model. This would allow them to support 3D without users having to buy a new 3D TV.
Do any you guys know which graphics hardware Nintendo will use for this.?
am i the only one that thinks the projector will be used for interaction and not display, Nintendo is not stupid and i think they learned a few things since the wii, they know everyone will have a TV, there is no way that an inbuilt project will be used for a bigger gaming screen
imagine projecting an interface onto the wall/floor/couch teamed up with something like kinect, it be a new and interesting way to interact with the console, or for even more immersive environment where by the scenery can be projected beyond the screen your living room floor can literally be an extension of the gaming environment, hmmmmmmmm now thats does sound interesting
That's to be expected, considering that BD-ROM is going to become the default delivery system.
Assuming there isn't a shift towards cloud-based gaming before the successors to the 360 and PS3 come down the line. Seems a very remote possibility, but a possibility nevertheless.
Do any you guys know which graphics hardware Nintendo will use for this.?
How would anyone know the answer to this question now?
I'll stick with Microsoft and Sony. My last Nintendo was an N64, they just don't have the games that I want. IMHO, that whole Nunchuck motion thing sucks.
Kinect wasn't a copycat of the Wii by a longshot... it completely surpassed the Wii in every way, yet in an entirely different way. The Move, on the other hand, is a direct copy. So much so, that my friends and I refer to is as the "Playstation Wii"
How would anyone know the answer to this question now?
Performs faster than GTX 490 Quad-SLI with Intel HD 3000 acceleration for movies, Quadro 6000 for texture rendering, and Tesla C2050 4-way SLI for physics processing. Consumes 40 watts max.
For processors, quad-core with 10,000 threads, all clocked at 150 watts, which performs faster than 50 8-core Sandy Bridges.
64 GB of RAM, 512 GB of SSD memory, LAN gaming support, and sound card that supports audio quality better than $1000 A/V receivers, 10.2 surround sound.
Oh, and it prints MONEY!
If I see Wii-type of games in PS3 graphic quality or better, I have no reason not to have one at home.I hope it will come true.
it better have better then ps3 graphics, that's a really old system running off old hardware, only reason why games look so well is lack luster computer games industry and specialized hardware allows for some tricks to extend the life.
I wish this company would just go 3rd party, like Sega did. If it wasnt for Nintendo IP titles, they would no longer be relevant in the console market. Wii controls was just a fad, even though it was a big money making fad.
Projector unlikely since it is a pain to mount projectors just right so you dont cast your shadow onto the image. Nintendo revolutionized the gaming market with its motion gaming and looking forward to its new console. I wonder if Nintendo can still keep prices lower than the competition?!
Assuming there isn't a shift towards cloud-based gaming before the successors to the 360 and PS3 come down the line. Seems a very remote possibility, but a possibility nevertheless.
And ISPs think Netflix is hard on bandwith, cant wait until they get a load of cloud gaming!!! lol
Do any you guys know which graphics hardware Nintendo will use for this.?
One can speculate based on the graphics hardware of past consoles. For the Wii and Gamecube, Nintendo has had a partnership with ati(now AMD). I would guess that will continue unless their relationship has gone bad.
Performs faster than GTX 490 Quad-SLI with Intel HD 3000 acceleration for movies, Quadro 6000 for texture rendering, and Tesla C2050 4-way SLI for physics processing. Consumes 40 watts max.For processors, quad-core with 10,000 threads, all clocked at 150 watts, which performs faster than 50 8-core Sandy Bridges.64 GB of RAM, 512 GB of SSD memory, LAN gaming support, and sound card that supports audio quality better than $1000 A/V receivers, 10.2 surround sound.Oh, and it prints MONEY!
I'd buy that for a dollar!
You know what I want to see: Better games.
These 3rd party games for wii sucked. Not too many variety of your basic package: Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. Those were the only games that were good, even though Mario was too simple and easy. They need to bring back good games and include the hardcore games as well. Hey, they can go 'family' and 'hardcore' oriented gaming.
"Will gamers even have enough wall space to even utilize such a feature?"
I've used a projector to project an image that was only about 15 inches. You don't have to make it HUGE and if it's anything like the pico projectors that are currently available you won't be able to make the picture huge due to a lack of light intensity.
"So 5 years to hit 30 million, and you expect another 50% in 6 months? What fantasy world are you from?"
I know, I was thinking the same thing. I was like WTF, that's a lofty goal! But I'm assuming the writer forgot to mention that those 30 million in sales were for only 2010? (that would make a lot more sense)
"Assuming there isn't a shift towards cloud-based gaming before the successors to the 360 and PS3 come down the line. Seems a very remote possibility, but a possibility nevertheless."
Yep, I agree...
"I wish this company would just go 3rd party, like Sega did. If it wasnt for Nintendo IP titles, they would no longer be relevant in the console market."
YES!!! Thank you for saying that.. Zelda, Metroid, Mario and the rest of the 1st party nintendo games are the only reasons I own a Wii. HD Zelda on PS3 would kick 4ss!
"Will gamers even have enough wall space to even utilize such a feature?"I've used a projector to project an image that was only about 15 inches. You don't have to make it HUGE and if it's anything like the pico projectors that are currently available you won't be able to make the picture huge due to a lack of light intensity."So 5 years to hit 30 million, and you expect another 50% in 6 months? What fantasy world are you from?"I know, I was thinking the same thing. I was like WTF, that's a lofty goal! But I'm assuming the writer forgot to mention that those 30 million in sales were for only 2010? (that would make a lot more sense)"Assuming there isn't a shift towards cloud-based gaming before the successors to the 360 and PS3 come down the line. Seems a very remote possibility, but a possibility nevertheless."Yep, I agree..."I wish this company would just go 3rd party, like Sega did. If it wasnt for Nintendo IP titles, they would no longer be relevant in the console market."YES!!! Thank you for saying that.. Zelda, Metroid, Mario and the rest of the 1st party nintendo games are the only reasons I own a Wii. HD Zelda on PS3 would kick 4ss!
You answered your own question. Stupid graphics have clouded peoples brains. I love the wii, I love my 360. Zelda on my 360? No thanks. Zelda on my pc? No thanks.
"I wish this company would just go 3rd party, like Sega did. If it wasnt for Nintendo IP titles, they would no longer be relevant in the console market. Wii controls was just a fad, even though it was a big money making fad."
And why should they do that? Nintendo is selling more than both companies in terms of home consoles and mobile consoles, not to mention that both Sony and Microsoft have tried to copy this "fad" started by Nintendo. The innovative and colorful company is also a nice offset to the more graphics-focused and realistic consoles.
"Surely Nintendo will have raked in its required 45 million before June-- more than 30 million units had sold as of December 2010."30 million over 4+ year period, but you expect them to get another 15 million in 6 months?!?
It's called a price drop.
who cares....PC gamming still rocks
can you play StarCraft2 on a console....i don't think so!!!
Heard these rumours many times before.. I don't think a new Nintendo console will arrive until at least mid 2012.
Also, there's 30+ million more Wii's been sold than the 360's than anything. Not being a fanboy or anything, just wanted to say it's still far from profitable. No need to kick it to the kerb yet.
Rumors... Somehow, I doubt Nintendo wants to go Blu-Ray so it doesn't have to pay Sony, a direct competitor. Remember, Microsoft had an HD-DVD peripheral, and when Sony's Blu-Ray tech won out-right, Microsoft didn't bother. Keep in mind, Microsoft still uses DVD as it's medium, and if they can pull off HD with just that alone, Nintendo might just stick with with dual-layer DVDs as the medium, with an option to store on a hard drive. Quad-Core CPU? Somewhat, the most believable of all the things said in the article for 3D processing, but again... Nintendo was experimenting with dual-core cpus in the Wii's development and went with a single-core "Gamecube 2.0" processor. Not saying they'll go that route, but they'll put just enough power in it to keep the cost low. I'm expecting Nintendo to stick with an ATI / AMD gpu. What I'm really hoping for is what others have said... more ram for development and gaming purposes, and hard drive storage. The "projector" might end up becoming a peripheral, like the Wii sensor bar, to accomplish what Nintendo's overall vision of the product may be. Understand, that Nintendo will only produce something that they can gain a profit from on day one.
I just hope Nintendo actually regulates what games are developed... The Wii was a great idea, but 95% of the games on the shelf are crap.
That's to be expected, considering that BD-ROM is going to become the default delivery system.
Highly doubt it. They'll probably develop their own optical disc that is nearly identical in every way to avoid licensing fees.