Rumor: Next iPhone to be 'iPhone HD', Use A4 SoC

"Will the next iPhone be an iPad Mini?"

No. To perpetuate the already-dull joke the iPad will be an iPhone Maxi.

Personally I'm not too fussed in the real-world about the closed ecosystem that is Apple (although ideologically-speaking I'm all against it).

Could it be that the iPhone might finally be worth something with this new generation?

My guess is no. I'm guessing the phone will retain it's closed nature including a lack of customization on the UI, no backgrounds etc. It's a solid phone all in all but it's a phone for people that lack a sense of adventure. Everything is straight forward and easy. Great for some, not so great for others. I'm in the latter group.

I'm still not buying it.

ambictus, sounds like you want to have the myspace of cell phones!

Image how crappy Windows would be if Microsoft did that

Don't need to _imagine_ anything.

"the upcoming model will be called the iPhone HD for its 960x640 resolution display"

really? 960x640? HD? wow.

its not HD then. (HD is 480i/480p, 720i/720p, 1080i/1080p)

Actually 960x540 is half the vertical and horizontal resolution of 1080p (960x2 = 1920, 540x2 = 1080) , making it perfect for displaying 1080p content on a small screen. I wish more phones accepted that resolution.

right; 960x540 but not 960x640 which the iphone HD will presumably be.

also, just because the resolution is half of the size of 1080p doesn't make it HD and doesn't mean you are watching something in HD. I can watch a 1080p HD trailer from apple.com/trailers on this G4 Mac from work with a VGA monitor set at 1280x1024 resolution, but im not going to be getting a true HD image on my screen.

No, HD is an overused sales pitch with no real meaning behind it. Saying that 1080p is full hd and that 720p is hd-ready is like saying something is free but not absolutely free (Dane Cook reference... he explains it well and in an amusing way.)

On topic: I think this rumor is 99% BS that came from some guy saying: I hope the new iPhone has double the vertical and double the horizontal resolution, as well as the internal hardware from the iPad.

Personally, I think this screen with have a wvga or fwvga resolution. It MIGHT go 1024x600, but I really doubt that 960x480 is a real possibility here.

My monitor resolution is 1920 x 1200, not 1920 x 1080, doesn't mean I can't view 1080p content.



The Zune HD doesn't have an HD screen, but can downsample 720p content. I'm not saying that's HD. But considering this resolution has more pixels than 480p, I'd say it's certainly higher definition than "standard" definition.

As far as your monitor goes, it takes a more computationally intensive algorithms to downsample 1080p content for your screen. Downsampling to 940x540 is pretty much removing every other pixel, and rather simple, with 50 pixel borders top and bottom (and who doesn't like a little cinematic letter boxing?).

So if I get a 2560x1600 LCD monitor then it's not an HD monitor? Because, you know, having a higher resolution than a set standard means it can't display that set standard. Certainly couldn't display 1080p content on my 2560x1600 monitor right?

HD, as an acronym of High Definition, is relative. Apple didn't say it was "iPhone-HD-just-like-your-HD-TV", did they? so it should be fair to assume the HD is more like "iPhone-HD-better-than-older-iPhones".

Sorry Apple, as others have said before, your OS environment is far far too closed for me to even consider purchasing an iPhone. I won't buy a phone until I can write my own programs for it.

My 3gs 32gb plays movies very clear dvd quality just fine, people comment on its clarity all the time. The only way this would be worth it to me is if the screen is a Oled or Amoled tech screen which in turn would make the battery last alot longer and screen more vivid and crisp. 64gb is not a big deal to me as I havent filled up my 32gb since Ive had it last Summer. Everyone who thinks 1080p is a set standard and the only HD is mistaken. My computer monitor is 1920 x 1200 and upconverts from 1080p to 1200p. They started making these cheaper 1920 x 1080 monitors and people think thats as good as it gets, well its not. Im upgrading to a 30 inch 2560 x 1600 res this summer and blow all that out of the water. I will wait to see what 2011 brings before I get another Iphone which I love and have had no issues with AT&T. To each his own just educate yourself before you type.

how long does it usually take for the ipod equivalent to churn out?

i was actually planning on picking up an iPod touch 3rd gen tomorrow, but don't want to find a more powerful version available in two months.

if its more likely to be 4-6 months though, id be fine with picking up a 3rd gen.

LoL, you ever try importing 1080p footage in Avid or Final Cut? Doesn't work very well... the amount of GB per minute because of the resolution is unbearable for even a Mac Pro or 15,000RPM Hard Drives to handle. Hence why we filmmakers downconvert the footage to SD to edit and then do an upres of the finish film.

And you do know that 720p is still HD right? Stores still sell HDTV's that only can output 720p. Also, 720p supports the following frame rates: 23.976, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94, 60

These are HD frame rates: 23.976, 24, 25
These are SD frame rates: 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94, 60





Any monitor can view 1080p video, but depending if that display is an HD display and can support the 1080p resolution then it isn't truely watching HD footage. your monitor resolution is higher than 1080p, obviously you can view it. wow.

The Zune HD resolution is 480 x 272 so it doesn't have a higher resolution than 480p.

As far as my monitor is concerned, the video is relying on the GPU and possibly the CPU to playback the video. The software (Quicktime) and the hardware (GPU) don't downconvert the video unless I bring it into an NLE program and reduce the resolution (downcoverting it myself).

"cinematic letter boxing" or 16:9 is what HD footage is shot at. It is the native dimensions of HD.

Are we going to have to go into the difference between interlaced and progressive next? LoL

*facepalm*

There is no upconverting necessary for 1080p content on a 1920x1200 monitor. It would simple play the content letterboxed. If you attempted to stretch it, it would be playing at the wrong aspect ratio, and be slightly distorted.

Here are more HD resolutions for the simple minded:

1080p 1920×1080
2K 2048x1536
2160p 3840×2160
4K 4096x3072
4320p 7680x4320

Have you ever heard of the Red Camera? Here is a pic of the resolution that it can film at: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe [...] CAMERA.png


stop failing.

Yes but 960x640 is, and is thus Higher definition.

Any other off topic facts you'd like to spew to don't change that fact.

eh... lets not forget, you brought up the Zune HD. I simply stated that the iPhone "HD" really won't display HD content. Rather on topic I believe.

Oh god, HD HD HD HD. People, please, stop ranting on about "HD". It's undefined, like the length of a piece of string.
Also, who cares about 'HD' movies on a smaller screen? It's barely worth it. Having a massive PPI on a tiny tiny display is worthless. It may make an image look crisper, or clearer, but I'd rather have a huge PPI on a bigger screen. HDTVs, 40", maybe 60", maybe 80", maybe 100+", and yet they all have only the same amount of pixels which all get stretched, eventually making this 'HD' seem lower 'D' than the older TV sets to me. I'm happy with my high PPI laptop screen, which is '720p' (god I hate that term) and is only 15.4". Looks a lot crisper than those pointless 1 Gajillon inch 'HDTVs'

Yes, because it is below standard defintion, in contrast to these specifications (which is why I brought it up).



It is higher than Standard definition. I would call that High Definition. It can display high definition media. I would say it's HD on all facets.

wow. ill reiterate, yes it will play HD, but you aren't seeing true HD. This goes back to the VGA Monitor comment I explained.

i work with HD and SD on a daily basis, and yet you still don't quite understand the difference.

If the economy hold, I'll get one this summer.

Our society really can't go for a few months without Apple rumor nowadays, eh?

What... no box photos?

Rumor: A better Android device will be available.

The Zune HD does have HD Radio built in, and unless I'm missing something, no one has ever said the HD in Zune HD stood for HD video, it could very well stand for HD Radio, meaning it is not a false claim but very much real. Everyone just assumes you mean video when you say HD, which could be very wrong in the case of the Zune HD

Apple, please don't call the new iPhone the "iPhone 3GSA".
It is time for a new name.

I am not crazy about watching a full length feature film on a tiny screen. I'm soiled rotten by the big tv in the living room.

LOL! One of the primary PROBLEMS with windows is the rampant crapware. With 150k Apps on the App Store, it's not like Apple is blocking Apps left and right. There's more than you could ever dream of using. Beyond that, there's a TON of competition. Look up any app and see 4-5 competitors.

As for competing Apps to what Apple offers, the only things that are unlikely to be approved are competitors to the core phone app and browser app, and both for good reason. I'd like to see Opera on the iPhone but on the flip side, can you blame them? If MS could get away with it, they would make Internet Explorer the exlusive Windows app.

Apple isn't the devil, their genius business people. And guess what? 90% of the people out there won't give a rip that there isn't an alternative phone app or browser app. Everything else already has 3rd party apps (weather, notes, stocks, etc)