Verizon Could Be Bossing Apple Around for iPhone

Android is looking more and more appealing. Especially the unlocked ones without all the carrier crap (such as v-cast).

I was excited about the ongoing rumor til I got my Droid X... Now I could give a rat's backside about the iFone...

"Apple wants to keep the iPhone sold through Verizon and Apple Stores, but not through third-party dealers."

This was true at one point but not true anymore. Currently Apple, AT&T, Best Buy, Radio Shack, and WalMart sell the iPhone.

Isn't it great when two big corporations argue about what they think is best for their bottom linecustomers?

Apple: "We want to limit people to only the content we provide."
Verizon: "No, we want to limit people to the content WE provide."
Customer: "Excuse me, can I have a phone I can just do what I want with?"
(All phone makers and service providers in unison): "No."

could someone tell me where you can viably purchase an Android phone without all the (ATT, Verizon, etc) crap and not be a techie to root and remove?

"There's also that exclusivity contract with AT&T that's originally not up until 2012, but even contracts can be changed."

Actually there have been several reports that the contract has been re-negotiated.

This is the first article (WSJ not Toms) that I actually believe about the Verizon iPhone. I personally know someone that is "in the know" about Verizon plans, and he has been telling me about the January 2011 release since June. The WSJ points to "people familiar with the matter", but the pieces fit: the CDMA network will allow talking and surfing at the same time, something Apple has always touted as a superior feature of the iPhone, Seidenberg specifically mentioned in the "sprinkle of cold water" that 4G will "speed up the process", there's the reports of Verizon iPhone testing in Boston, there's certainly a demand from consumers--I think the time is right.

Resonse to hellwig: Yes you can down the line with the last court hearing...but be prepared to pay full price of the phone minus any subsidies

For all the iPhone haters I have the Droid and I would much prefer the iPhone 4. I would love to sign up for one if it was on Verizon. iPhone, just a much more refined device IMO.

The key is the content and the support. Android is gaining and is pretty much very similar with iPhone. But, iPhone has a full support from single company, Apple. Where else, Android has multiple support, such as, HTC/Motorola for the hardwares and Google Android as OS.
Then we can talk about contents. Apple provide all music, apps, and iOS update. Where else, Android, OS update is done by Google. Then all the Android owners have to wait for their update through HTC/Motorola which is not immediate since they have tweaked or personalized the Android OS.

Apple makes thing easier. When Android has this kind of support and contents, Android will sell like peanuts.

The key is the content and the support. Android is gaining and is pretty much very similar with iPhone. But, iPhone has a full support from single company, Apple. Where else, Android has multiple support, such as, HTC/Motorola for the hardwares and Google Android as OS.
Then we can talk about contents. Apple provide all music, apps, and iOS update. Where else, Android, OS update is done by Google. Then all the Android owners have to wait for their update through HTC/Motorola which is not immediate since they have tweaked or personalized the Android OS.

Apple makes thing easier. When Android has this kind of support and contents, Android will sell like peanuts.

iPhone has too many dealbreakers. Furthermore, now that I have a Droid 2, iPhone's only relevance is in providing competition that may spur useful updates.

"could someone tell me where you can viably purchase an Android phone without all the (ATT, Verizon, etc) crap and not be a techie to root and remove?"

The original Droid runs stock Android on Verizon. No VCast, no additional Verizon or Motorola skinning or other crap, no watered down Android Market - just pure clean Froyo. You can even tether via free Android Market apps. Unfortunately, most of the world knows this and these babies are fetching a hefty premium on Ebay and such.

It shouldn't come as a surprise that there's a conflict between VCast and the iTunes store - analysts have been predicting that would be the major sticking point for a Verizon iPhone for years, now.

Heard about it many times, still not enough to make me care.

This whole rumor is beyond the pale. Anyone who thinks that Apple is actually making the phones before they've completed negotiations with the carrier is just nuts. What a great negotiating position that would be. Apple: "Hey Verizon, we've made 10 million phones specifically designed to work with your network with more on the way. Now let's sit down and negotiate terms." Verizon: "Yeah, here are our terms. You'll do what we want or you'll eat the phones. Text us when you agree."

I'm not sure if anyone from THG will read this, but the iPhone coming to Verizon 1st quarter 2011 is confirmed. I have the full packet brochure and specs from our Verizon Wireless Account Manager right now in my hands.

I'm not sure if anyone from THG will read this, but the iPhone coming to Verizon 1st quarter 2011 is confirmed. I have the full packet brochure and specs from our Verizon Wireless Account Manager right now in my hands.

So the

Hehehe, I giggled.

Haha, it' so funny to me to see people think a Droid compares to a real iPhone. You have to get the real thing if you want the serious hardware and the serious apps.

I can understand if you're stuck on Verizon, or only interested in generic hardware without, just for example, the serious audio apis, d/a-a/d converters, mics, speakers, and pro-level apps from the heavy-hitters. The reason Apple is so successful with Macs, iPods, iPhones, etc. is they forge ahead with the refining details and have already weeded out junk. Apple tries to be the best at everything it does--successfully more often than not--which is different from any other company who simply know they can sell to people who don't look very closely.

Apple is also engendering a lot of intense jealousy--I see it in comment sections in any article mentioning Apple--but it's easy to see why.

The rumor-mill is running over time in predicitng Verizon iPhone possibility. Since its release in 2007, the iPhone has only been available in models compatible with UMTS-GSM networks. I will say now what I have always said: I will believe it when I see the phones on the shelf in a Verizon store
Though according to TechCrunch, Apple is buying millions of CDMA chipsets for a Verizon iPhone launch. Daring Fireball’s John Gruber penned an interesting piece and says that the CDMA iPhone is just one step below “design verification test,” He also notes that now is about the time that Apple will have to begin committing to full-scale production for such a project if it is planning a January launch as rumored, and consequently leaks are shows that a CDMA iPhone may finally be becoming a reality.
http://www.ifunia.com/news/apple-t [...] uary-2011/

Who cares... Verizon likes to limit peoples content, so does apple. Sadly I like both companies.