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Google Demands Removal of Windows Phone YouTube App

By - Source: The Verge | B 38 comments

Microsoft has until next week to remove the application.

Microsoft has been on something of an anti-Google crusade as of late, and it seems Mountain View isn't doing much to help the cause. The Verge reports that Google has demanded Microsoft remove its Windows Phone application from the Windows Phone Store by this day next week. The search giant is said to have send Microsoft a cease and desist letter that gives Redmond until May 22 to remove the application in question.

So what's got Google so upset? The company's cease and desist letter says that Microsoft's newly updated YouTube application contains no ads. Google says that by allowing the videos to be downloaded sans ads, Microsoft is impacting those that are paid through Google's partner program. Not only that, but Google claims this is a violations of the YouTube API terms and conditions.

For Microsoft's part, the company says it's more than happy to shows ads in its YouTube application, provided Google supplies access to the necessary APIs.

"In light of Larry Page’s comments today calling for more interoperability and less negativity, we look forward to solving this matter together for our mutual customers," Microsoft told the Verge, referencing Google CEO Larry Page's comments about negativity in the tech industry hindering progress.

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    WhyFi , May 16, 2013 10:16 AM
    MS played them like a fiddle.
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    WhyFi , May 16, 2013 10:46 AM
    @M Pyne - this article is terribly incomplete, so I can't blame just you, but you're only seeing one side of the story. MS's put together the app because Google has refused to create/cooperate with developers creating W8/WP8 youtube apps... because they're (presumably) fearful of potentially competitive platforms. Read more at the verge articles referenced in the above Tom's article.
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    Pherule , May 16, 2013 10:08 AM
    Well I never saw myself as pro-Microsoft, but this time I'm cheering them on. Google can go die in a fire. Nobody wants ads.
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    WhyFi , May 16, 2013 10:16 AM
    MS played them like a fiddle.
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    Matthew Pyne , May 16, 2013 10:18 AM
    @Pherule You are an idiot. Why do you think websites have ads? Those ads are what allow the content providers on youtube that you love so much to keep making videos while still being able to feed them selves. It's selfish stupid people like you that make small companies fall apart and die. Although to be honest, I'm sure this whole thing is about more then it not having ads, I think Microsoft bashing Google has made them have to stand there ground, and I say good job Google. Google is just doing what any other company would do in its position. I agree with google.
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    XngXtuHl , May 16, 2013 10:27 AM
    In android YouTube app, also don't have ads
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    OptyFM , May 16, 2013 10:38 AM
    Lol. Agreed with Pherule, screw adds. I will always surf the web with Adblock and have adblock app running on my android.
    GO MICROSOFT!
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    InvalidError , May 16, 2013 10:40 AM
    The Android Youtube app does have ads every now and then. I can usually watch 5-10 clips between ads so it is nowhere near as annoying as the many streaming sites that systematically tack ads before/after each clip.
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    Onus , May 16, 2013 10:42 AM
    I agree with Pherule. YouTube is supposed to be non-commercial, a place for the common man to post and share videos. If a given channel wants me to watch ads, I probably won't waste my time.
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    bllue , May 16, 2013 10:43 AM
    "Google says that by allowing the videos to be downloaded sans ads, Microsoft is impacting those that are paid through Google's partner program" Impacting those who paid? More like impacting Google. Scumbag google at it again
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    Anonymous , May 16, 2013 10:45 AM
    If you make an app yourself google then it wouldn't come down to this. You are just too scared that Windows Phone is growing at a fast rate and is slowly catching up to Android
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    WhyFi , May 16, 2013 10:46 AM
    @M Pyne - this article is terribly incomplete, so I can't blame just you, but you're only seeing one side of the story. MS's put together the app because Google has refused to create/cooperate with developers creating W8/WP8 youtube apps... because they're (presumably) fearful of potentially competitive platforms. Read more at the verge articles referenced in the above Tom's article.
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    WithoutWeakness , May 16, 2013 10:53 AM
    As much as I hate ads, Google's entire business model and the reason they are able to provide so many amazing free services is dependent on the fact that they sell ads in different services. I'd much rather use Google services as they are now with minimal, non-intrusive ads than use a product like Facebook that has become bloated with ads and paid-for suggested posts.
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    ribald86 , May 16, 2013 11:18 AM
    @Matthew Pyne You maybe ignorant Google's practices, but Google hasn't allowed Microsoft to you their Youtube API for the Win8Phone platform. Google is essentially hurting Microsoft's user experience. It is an Anti-Trust issue, and Google will eventually be forced to release the offical API to Microsoft.
    Microsoft developed their own Youtube app independent of the API and Google is upset about that, but Google wasn't playing fair to begin with. To root for Google, is rooting against the consumer.
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    vmem , May 16, 2013 11:20 AM
    wow, so microsoft finally found a way to kill off google that the general public will fall for. props to them, but if they succeed I worry about the future of internet development
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    stevejnb , May 16, 2013 11:21 AM
    You know, the ads are what keep those services running and free. I'm actually with Google on this one (though I'm curious about the API issue cited in this article - are they not providing MS what they need to release the app with ads?) - those ads are the lifeblood of these services with like. Take them away and who's footing the bill?
    Windows phone user, Windows 8 fan, and I'm with Google. I don't like ads, but ads pay for this stuff. If you'd rather be the one paying than have to put up with the odd commercial... Well, I hope you never have enough say to rope me in.
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    gbair , May 16, 2013 11:25 AM
    I've got that app, and it's just a shortcut to m.youtube.com on IE, I don't see what's so special about it.
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    teh_chem , May 16, 2013 11:26 AM
    MS response is awesome.
    I understand that businesses are businesses, and "free to use" sites need ad's in lieu of subscription fees (which is the next step for YouTube).
    But the problem with ads on Youtube as they exist right now is that if I want to watch a dumb 30-second fart joke video that some random schmo posted, I have to watch an ad. Ad-showing isn't quality or popularity-based, and that kills the user experience. If I have to watch a 15 second ad for a 15 second video clip, you can bet I'm going to hit the "back" button pretty fast...
    But honestly, how much does this really matter in the first place given Windows Phone small marketshare... I'd have a pretty good laugh if Google made a news statement that they are able to pursue MS for this, but chose not to since the marketshare wouldn't recoup their lawyer fees.
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    teh_chem , May 16, 2013 11:29 AM
    MS response is awesome.
    I understand that businesses are businesses, and "free to use" sites need ad's in lieu of subscription fees (which is the next step for YouTube).
    But the problem with ads on Youtube as they exist right now is that if I want to watch a dumb 30-second fart joke video that some random schmo posted, I have to watch an ad. Ad-showing isn't quality or popularity-based, and that kills the user experience. If I have to watch a 15 second ad for a 15 second video clip, you can bet I'm going to hit the "back" button pretty fast...
    But honestly, how much does this really matter in the first place given Windows Phone small marketshare... I'd have a pretty good laugh if Google made a news statement that they are able to pursue MS for this, but chose not to since the marketshare wouldn't recoup their lawyer fees.
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    teh_chem , May 16, 2013 11:30 AM
    MS response is awesome.
    I understand that businesses are businesses, and "free to use" sites need ad's in lieu of subscription fees (which is the next step for YouTube).
    But the problem with ads on Youtube as they exist right now is that if I want to watch a dumb 30-second fart joke video that some random schmo posted, I have to watch an ad. Ad-showing isn't quality or popularity-based, and that kills the user experience. If I have to watch a 15 second ad for a 15 second video clip, you can bet I'm going to hit the "back" button pretty fast...
    But honestly, how much does this really matter in the first place given Windows Phone small marketshare... I'd have a pretty good laugh if Google made a news statement that they are able to pursue MS for this, but chose not to since the marketshare wouldn't recoup their lawyer fees.
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    teh_chem , May 16, 2013 11:31 AM
    Jesus Christ Tom's--can you please fix the bug where if I refresh a page after writing a comment it re-posts my comment? Now there is triplicate of my first response...sheesh.
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    stevejnb , May 16, 2013 11:38 AM
    You know, the ads are what keep those services running and free. I'm actually with Google on this one (though I'm curious about the API issue cited in this article - are they not providing MS what they need to release the app with ads?) - those ads are the lifeblood of these services with like. Take them away and who's footing the bill?
    Windows phone user, Windows 8 fan, and I'm with Google. I don't like ads, but ads pay for this stuff. If you'd rather be the one paying than have to put up with the odd commercial... Well, I hope you never have enough say to rope me in.
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