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YouTube Explains Why Hitler Vids Were Removed

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

A meme gets crushed by copyright.

Over the past week, parody clips from the German film, "The Downfall: Hitler and the End of the Third Reich" (Der Untergang) were removed on YouTube due to Constantin Film's claim on the movie's copyright.

Constantin Film used YouTube's Content ID system that automatically filters for copyright infringing material. Unfortunately, YouTube's Content ID system is unable to distinguish between fair use of copyright material, such as for educational purposes and parody.

Perhaps due to the massive takedowns of Der Untergang videos recently, YouTube Product Manager Shenaz Zack detailed in a blog post today new methods in place for video uploaders to easily file disputes over the removal of videos.

YouTube explains:

  • When you receive a notice in your account via Content ID, we tell you who claimed the content, and direct you to a form that lets you dispute the claim if you so choose.
  • If you believe your video is fair use, check the box that reads "This video uses copyrighted material in a manner that does not require approval of the copyright holder." If you're not sure if your video qualifies, you can learn more about fair use here.
  • Once you've filed your dispute, your video immediately goes back up on YouTube.
  • From this point, the claimant then makes a decision about whether to file a formal DMCA notification, and remove the content from the site according to the process set forth in the DMCA.

Read the full post here.

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itadakimasu 04/23/2010 10:32 PM
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awww...

Some of those are halarious.

ddkshah 04/23/2010 10:34 PM
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Some one has to male a hitler bid about this :D I love them YouTube bring them back!!!

Kami3k 04/23/2010 10:35 PM
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I figured this would eventually happen.

"Perhaps due to the massive takedowns of Der Untergang videos recently"

I would hope it would be more about how the crappy flagging system is used to false flag, and close accounts down, more then it ever will be use for correct reasons to flag.

restatement3dofted 04/23/2010 10:41 PM
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Google/YouTube ought to review current precedent about parody and fair use.

restatement3dofted 04/23/2010 10:42 PM
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Or rather, I suppose the company/group that owns the copyright to the movie Downfall should be the ones looking at legal precedent... m'bad.

MDillenbeck 04/23/2010 10:48 PM
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So if I understand YouTube's policy: a poster is guilty until they enter a plea of innocent through official channels, at which time we will assume they are innocent...

I guess that is reasonable.

My only disappointment comes from the increasing use of YouTube videos used in mainstream media websites that get pulled down. I really wish news agencies would stop embedding them... its frustrating when a key video is missing from a report.

husker 04/23/2010 10:53 PM
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MDillenbeck :
My only disappointment comes from the increasing use of YouTube videos used in mainstream media websites that get pulled down. I really wish news agencies would stop embedding them... its frustrating when a key video is missing from a report.


Agreed! YouTube is not an appropriate site for any workplace and should not be used by professional news organizations as a cheap way to post stuff for free.

anthropophaginian 04/23/2010 11:16 PM
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What are they complaining about?! It's free advertising for the film. It's only a few clips as short as trailers that were put up, and you always see people asking what film it's from.

Hilarion 04/23/2010 11:24 PM
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Youtube needs to clean up it's act and stop kowtowing to the folks who claim "infringement" on things that are clearly "fair use."

house70 04/23/2010 11:31 PM
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Hilarion :
Youtube needs to clean up it's act and stop kowtowing to the folks who claim "infringement" on things that are clearly "fair use."


I guess they are trying to protect themselves from stupid lawsuits. In this society one can never be too cautious.

sliem 04/23/2010 11:35 PM
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anthropophaginian :
What are they complaining about?! It's free advertising for the film. It's only a few clips as short as trailers that were put up, and you always see people asking what film it's from.



Exactly, they are idiots.

maximus20895 04/24/2010 12:31 PM
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well there goes any positive thoughts about hitler now

godnodog 04/24/2010 12:35 PM
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I´m gonna make a vid where Hitler get´s pissed of about his vids being removed by Youtube

Zinosys 04/24/2010 1:14 AM
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Awww, I'm going to miss those Fermi videos... :P

nforce4max 04/24/2010 1:40 AM
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kami3k :
I figured this would eventually happen. "Perhaps due to the massive takedowns of Der Untergang videos recently"I would hope it would be more about how the crappy flagging system is used to false flag, and close accounts down, more then it ever will be use for correct reasons to flag.



Shame they don't bring down scum bags such as George4title and his little Inflation.us rats for being little pump and dump scammers.

codefuapprentice 04/24/2010 1:57 AM
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oh FFS!
ok, i can understand its not the property of whoever posts it, but ever get the impression someone doesn't have a sense of humour?
I really enjoyed watching those daft parodies, that and....super funny video game satire which appears to be in short supply...now what am i gonna laugh at?
Bastards!!

Anonymous 04/24/2010 2:17 AM
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I have argued in the book cited below that the Hitler Downfall parodies are of great cultural and political significance. I think that when all this blows over there will still be thousands of Downfall parodies on YouTube.

Dr. Strangelove
University of Ottawa
Author of Watching YouTube: Extraordinary Videos by Ordinary People (University of Toronto Press, 2010)

Zingam 04/24/2010 8:32 AM
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That's not Hitler at all. That's some jerk dressed like Hitler. Not a bad movie at all though. :)

anamaniac 04/24/2010 10:56 AM
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If I remember correctly, parodies are completely legal under US law.
So they fail.

mrboycom 04/24/2010 12:09 PM
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What their movie just got more famous because of youtube.

JohnnyLucky 04/24/2010 1:47 PM
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I watched the film and the video clips long before the copyright issue surfaced. It seems to me the problem is the video clips are not original productions. Instead, the video clips are modified versions of the actual film. Someone took the original film and changed the subtitles.

Nik_I 04/24/2010 3:52 PM
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MDillenbeck :
So if I understand YouTube's policy: a poster is guilty until they enter a plea of innocent through official channels, at which time we will assume they are innocent...I guess that is reasonable.My only disappointment comes from the increasing use of YouTube videos used in mainstream media websites that get pulled down. I really wish news agencies would stop embedding them... its frustrating when a key video is missing from a report.



i don't think it would really bad that hard for those web developers to upload the video to their servers and embed their own player. Youtube videos should not be allowed to be embedded on commercial sites.

Gulli 04/24/2010 5:41 PM
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If the Hitler video's don't fall under the category of "parody" (which would make them fair use), then what does?


tamalero 04/24/2010 8:07 PM
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I wonder how long until they make a hitler video of Hitler angrily yelling about his videos being taken down .P

tamalero 04/24/2010 8:13 PM
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Also, How nice of Hitler! taking care of those poor poor lobsters in revenge of these awful jews ! (note the sarcasm).

sandmanwn 04/25/2010 12:37 PM
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It was funny about the first 8 times I saw one. After 50 or so, it just pissed me off every time someone linked to one.

Gin Fushicho 04/25/2010 7:30 AM
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That's not cool. =(

timbo 04/25/2010 9:33 AM
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The company that owns the rights is shooting itself in the foot, in stopping the publicity & resulting sales from the numerous parodies. Dude's got an MBA & no common sense.

Konman 04/25/2010 1:12 PM
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kami3k :
I figured this would eventually happen. "Perhaps due to the massive takedowns of Der Untergang videos recently"I would hope it would be more about how the crappy flagging system is used to false flag, and close accounts down, more then it ever will be use for correct reasons to flag.



I agree - it would be titled "Hitler finds out he's been removed from youtube"

wild9 04/25/2010 4:00 PM
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I think this is nothing more than giving people false hope.