Ugh, New TSA Rules (Good Luck Flying to the U.S.)
Travelers flying into the U.S., be prepared for a little extra.
Flying during the holiday season is never a pleasant experience. Airports are crowded and disorganized, which isn't helped by the fact that families are often traveling in hopes to make it in time for their gathering.
Over the weekend, there was an incident on Northwest Airlines flight 253 involving a man who had explosives in his underwear. (Read the full story here.)
This sparked the TSA to revise and bump up its security measures, which now includes that all passengers at boarding gate prior to boarding get a pat-down "concentrating on upper legs and torso." Security are also instructed to "physically inspect 100 percent of all passenger accessible property at the boarding gate prior to boarding, with focus on syringes being transported along with powders and/or liquids."
Right now, it seems that security upgrades and changes have been introduced so fast that what are actual policies are still a little fuzzy. Some reports say that using electronics is banned on flights, leaving in-flight entertainment back solely in the realm of the printed word.
In-cabin carryon baggage rules for flights into the U.S. are now limited to just one bag, as opposed to the one-bag plus personal item rule.
Air Canada also warns its passengers traveling into the U.S. that "during the final hour of flight customers must remain seated, will not be allowed to access carry-on baggage, or have personal belongings or other items on their laps."
This not only means no iPod, iPhone, DS, PSP, but also means no blankets or trips to the bathroom. We're sure that there's still a lot of variance, as sources on the internet are still updating with new stories.
In any case, despite the media coverage and fear mongering, flying remains one of the safest forms of travel.
Have you or will you be traveling to the U.S. around these holiday times? If so, share your stories in the comments below!
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Um, excuse me, sir. Is that dynamite or are you just happy to see me?
I can honestly say I would rather take the one in one hundred million chance of getting blown up and be allowed to go to the bathroom, use my ipod and have a blanket. These new security protocols are not only ridiculously invasive, I cant imagine they are even remotely effective.
Sunflier, you ruined it! You didn't even type it correctly! Anyway, was still funny. To say the least, I find it pretty f-in stupid that everyone has access to the new "rules" just to be sure to give a "heads up" to any would-be evil doer. Are we retarded? This has been going on for EVER and you would think that if you wanted to catch someone you wouldn't tell them every friggin move your gonna make to try and catch them. They did this in Vietnam which not many people know that the enemy had access to vital information about what the Americans could and couldn't do and they used it against us as a defensive measure. I don't even wanna hear any corny arguments about that statement as know one knows for sure what happened but the point is PROVEN. STOP TELLING PEOPLE WHAT TO EXPECT!!!!!!!
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First I had to take off my shoes because of one retarded guy. Now I can't get up to "P" because of another....
This should about kill the airline industry if this stuff keeps up. A pat-down of my upper legs and torso? My wife & kids too? No thanks. Also the stay seated for 1 hour before you land - what's the point of that? Someone can just blow up the plane 1 hour & 15 minutes before landing if that's the only issue.
Pff, it's not the end of the world. Even on internal flights in the Uk pretty much everyone gets the ol' pat down, mainly because unless you have a plastic zip on your trousers those metal detectors WILL go off.
I don't think this is as bad as people initially think. They aren't banning people from peeing the entire flight, just the last hour until landing. And that will probably be chopped down to 45 or 30 minutes after this all settles down, which I think is reasonable.
You make fun of this little "incident" but the fact is that hundreds of people almost died. Airline travel is still the safest way to travel because of all this "fear mongering" and the policies that come from it. So I will take my extra security Sir, even if it means you have to deal with a few extra pats on your crouch and you have to hold your bladder for one god damn hour.
Ever see the comedy movie called Idiocracy, this reminds me of of that, a bunch of idiots in charge. Political correctness has run amok, we know who to look for and it's sure as hell not grandma Miller. Maybe the guy with the name Muhammad or Hussein, you think. I know using common sense this is asking too much from a bunch of political correct hacks who run this country.
The only missing thing is the herding dogs and a good ol' loudspeaker to tell us when to take a left step/right step/left step...
Ha!
Wonder if I can bring an empty bottle to "fill" during that last hour.
moronic. a pat down at the gate? If you get it through security, just put it in your carry on, then go for your pat down. problem with TSA is it's just like DRM, it only inconveniences the people who follow the rules. They really just need a way to scan for explosives and weapons. If they do that, there's not even a need for taking off shoes or anything.
Epic Fail.

Honestly with the retards at security check points there is no doubt in my mind I could sneak bad stuff on a plane 10 out 10 times. It's just too easy and there are more holes in the process than a barrel of Swiss cheese. This is absurd to point I choose not to fly until sanity is returned to normal levels. I don't plan on flying anytime soon.
More feel good solutions will not solve the problem.
I'm really starting to believe that there is no such thing as convenient security.
inb4 Thomas Edison quotes
[citation]Air Canada also warns its passengers traveling into the U.S. that "during the final hour of flight customers must remain seated, will not be allowed to access carry-on baggage, or have personal belongings or other items on their laps."[/citation]
Right, because its only in the last hour of flight were a plane can be blown up.
The terrorists are winning.
The stupidest part about the whole terror incident on the Detroit flight... the guy was in the bathroom for 20 minutes before going back to his seat to try and get the bomb off. Wtf? Why didn't he just stay in the bathroom and set it off in there? Did he just have to whack one off one last time? Terrorists are idiots.
Pretty sure someone willing to blow themselves up aren't the smartest people around
I keep hearing all of the stories about the increased security in the US at airports, but this guy boarded in Amsterdam. How does this increase in security in the US change what happened here?
I have heard reports that he did not have a passport, was on a watch list, but given an US visa. Seems to me, following rules that are in place would have prevented this from happening. Creating more rules, which are not followed universally, just makes no sense.
h20 - I think the rules are for any plane flying into the US (also maybe any US carrier?) so they get screened oversees using these rules.
They won't be happy until they've turned the US into one great big concentration camp! And I don't mean the terrorists...
Soon, USA guests will face a mandatory rectal examination before every flight.
Someone's gonna figure out how to light up farts. Than what? Everyone must wear corks or hold until they reach the airport? I see a future where a device can be formed out of pee and/or poop too.
Eventually we'll all be driving instead of flying.
I just wonder how they'll be able to calm down an 18 month baby without milk & toys & frequent walks in the aisle even during a 3:30 h flight.
We were in Egypt for a vacation & it would have been impossible for us to fly at all, with all the new security regulations.
I guess the terrorists achieved their goal: Terrorizing people in such an extent that the system isn't working anymore. They don't even need to blow up planes or people.
I really wonder how much since 9/11 2001 US lost on tourism income, as a result of rejected visas of legit people & people who better avoided hassle than go through, although they had a visa to enter.
gti88 12/28/2009 5:30 PM
Soon, USA guests will face a mandatory rectal examination before every flight.
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TSA: wait... let me... a little deeper... oh there is something is here. Supervisor! Supervisor! I found something.
TSA Supervisor: Sir, what do you have up there?
Passenger: What, is it against the law to have Sh1t up my a$$?
TSA Supervisor: Yes, lock him up!
all this because they cannot get any competent security guards at the airports
Does anyone else not see that this guy boarded in a foreign country? Are THEY tightening security?
I mean, when there's a problem, don't you usually treat it's cause?
Another stupid overreaction. Apparently, the guy was known to have terrorist ties/sympathies. Why not screen those guys more thoroughly and let regular people who aren't on any watchlist lead an unmolested and FREE life. I know the "terrorists want to take our freedom from us", but the only one actually doing it is the government, by over-regulating everything they can get their hands on.
I don't understand how this is an American security problem. As far as I can see it was a Nigerian and Dutch security issue. Also what sense does it make to do these checks for everyone? Why not just profile those from countries more likely to attack the United States and search them first and foremost. Let other travelers go about their business. These policies will only hurt the United States economically because it restricts free travel and trade.
Al Qaeda is doing exactly what they've said aloud that they've wanted to do all along. It isn't just about killing Americans, it is about destroying the "capitalist" way of life. They know our government specializes in knee-jerk reactions, so they plan situations like this specifically for us to lock ourselves down. In effect, we cripple ourselves by making air travel completely unappetizing as a means of life...and if they happen to blow a few hundred of us up in the process they have icing for their pathetic cake.
I don't understand how this is an American security problem. As far as I can see it was a Nigerian and Dutch security issue. Also what sense does it make to do these checks for everyone? Why not just profile those from countries more likely to attack the United States and search them first and foremost. Let other travelers go about their business. These policies will only hurt the United States economically because it restricts free travel and trade.
Profile? In the U.S.? We can't do that because certain members of our government cry about it being "unfair".
"during the final hour of flight customers must remain seated, will not be allowed to access carry-on baggage, or have personal belongings or other items on their laps."
How will this solve anything? If anything it will just piss people off. I mean, if I'm on a trans-continental flight (i.e. Europe/Asia to North America) attempting to blow up a plane, wouldn't it make sense to do it earlier in the flight rather than in the last hour? I can't figure out what this will solve.
I don't think this is as bad as people initially think. They aren't banning people from peeing the entire flight, just the last hour until landing. And that will probably be chopped down to 45 or 30 minutes after this all settles down, which I think is reasonable.You make fun of this little "incident" but the fact is that hundreds of people almost died. Airline travel is still the safest way to travel because of all this "fear mongering" and the policies that come from it. So I will take my extra security Sir, even if it means you have to deal with a few extra pats on your crouch and you have to hold your bladder for one god damn hour.
Nah, I'd rather do what I feel like doing and maybe go out early, but then again I'm against regulations of pretty much every sort. The knee jerk reaction is what gets me. People will always discover new ways to get around security if they so desire. Instead of responding to past incidents maybe look to the future? just a thought.