Windows Mobile is Dead; Meet Windows Phone 7

No add-on apps?
I wonder why the carriers like WM devices, is it because they can cripple them easily like my Samsung Epix from ATT (GPS doesn't work unless you buy ATT's map app.)
They will have to at least look like an iphone or they won't have much success. When the contract is up on my WM phone I will go Android or iphone.

Does it only keep track of xbox live games, or are there going to be games dedicated to that particular hardware?

Looks like Microsoft lined up quite a few other companies to get things moving.

Their will be more apps but they will be built up for specific use on the new platform, none of this iPad cr@p.

"Microsoft will also release a software development kit (SDK) to enable network operators and third parties to add new services and applications to the phones. AT&T, in the U.S., and Orange, in France, will be among the first operator partners to develop services specially for the phone."

http://news.idg.no/cw/art.cfm?id=D [...] 1FA158EA2F

Now, I wonder if these phones will be offered on prepaid plans. I don't like being tied to a monthly payment.

thank god windows mobile is dead. i have never seen a more sluggish mobile OS. i cant wait to try this one out.

my old wm apps won't work with the new version?

It's too bad they killed off Windows Mobile. I always prefer an OS where I can run multiple things at the same time, and have access to process listings as well as the ability to run simple exe files.
I don't understand what people find in large colorful buttons or labels on the screen. I mean, I see why kids like it in kindergarten, but once you grow up... It's like Windows XP, Vista and 7 UI, it's just too fluffy for a computer. Win 2000 was the last OS to get it right.

I don't believe Windows Mobile is slower than current mobile OS's. It's just that most devices that use it have slower CPUs, or several applications are running at the same time, something that things like iPhone prohibit.

I hate the old windows mobile. And I will list why. I sold cellphones for years. In a reception limited area.
1. Typically had less reception than say a blackberry or Motorola.
2. resistive touch screen. I dont want to whip out the stylus to do anything, Oh wait I lost the stylus.
3. Stylus lost. hitting the x to close something is now damn near impossible.
4. I hate the way they sync.
5. I dont want to hit send and recieve to get my email. (yes I know you can set it up to do that every so often, but for me that would be every 5 min, and it kills the battery)
6. Poor battery life because I forgot to kill processes.
7. Oh yeah two many steps to do anything. I dont want to try to click on start, programs, scroll through the list. Just give me the programs already.
I am sure there are more, but thats just what I came up with off the top of my head.

I have a Samsung Epix running WM6.1pro. The thing works well as a phone and seems to get good reception. It also has good battery life. It has a finger mouse that takes the place of using a stylus, but it comes with a stylus if you want to use it. It also has a button that terminates apps so I never have to click on the "X". The good stuff ends there though.

It is VERY slow, bringing up websites even with 3G takes MINUTES, not seconds. The GPS doesn't work unless you buy the expensive app from ATT. The voice dialing doesn't work. It does work as well as a PDA as all of my dedicated PocketPC's of the past, but getting to apps through the menu system is very clunky compared to current phone technology. I was in a meeting with a real estate agent. Someone wanted to do a square foot calculation. He pulled out his iphone and completed the calculation before I could hit start and go down 2 more levels of menus and find the calculator. An update to WM6.5 has been promised for my phone for about 5 months now, still hasn't arrived. I rarely bother to sync it. It connected to my Vista notebook just fine and after much effort I was able to get it to tether to the internet. I have not been able to get it to connect to my Win7 notebook in any fashion.

Good for MS and their latest innovation. This sounds and looks somewhat promising. I'll wait for Tom's to post "Windows Phone 7 infringes on patents".

It does seem a lot more streamlined that WM6.1, etc... However, I'm rather curious about the XP phone...personally, I think there is a huge market for phones (in the future as technology advances) running full versions of Windows. Never the less, this is a huge improvement.

too late for me. after having 2 phones with a windows OD im done with it. next i'll go for a phone with sndroid on it or an iphone if the price is right

does wikipedia say anything else about it lol

It is about time ms to put something better than what they are offering now.

Haha .. DOS still on each new Microsoft OS release includes on Windows 7. Love it sometimes. Nothing will die, it will just less bugs with more enhancement.

as long as it is fast and snappy and maybe multitasking then I could see it succeeding and probably a browser with flash

looks pretty good.

Windows Mobile is obviously not for everybody. It's not for ordinary Joes. If you want your hand held, go buy a freakin' iPhone.

1. Hardware implementation of the phone, not OS dependent.
2. Just add the driver for resistive touch..? Again, not OS problem, but the developers of physical device&driver.
3. User problem / see #2.
4. User preference? What is it that you hate? I am yet to find a problem with the synch method / ability to browse the device as a drive.
5. You can download a different email client. Application problem not really an OS problem. I like the possibility of being able to get another email client if I want, unlike some other OSs which force one down your throat.
6. This is a first valid point against the OS, and I agree, there should be a prompt to user with option to minimize or quit an application. However single application only policy is not the solution.
7. Also a valid point, streamline and organize options better via a better design control panel can be done.

Unless I misunderstood your points, I only see 2 against WinMo...

... it seams, like own thing, but... why so apple'y...???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IOTrqlz4jo

this is a total game changer for WinMo

I had a HTC Kaiser (Tilt) and its predecessor and I could work it, but it was not usable for anyone but a total techie.

I now own and iPhone and want desperately to get out of the apple ecosystem. I despise being tied to itunes for music sync and how every time i format and reinstall it has to completely resync all music and everything.

I love the web browser and UI on the iPhone and 3 years ago the touchscreen was amazing.......

today I am getting annoyed with the UI. I laugh every time I see the iPhone ATT commercials because it takes like 10x longer to do what they show. The new Win Phone 7 Series UI looks great.

it honestly is how Xbox360, W7 Media Center, Zune ecosystem should have been.....

we can only hope that livesync, live mesh and skydrive... office, W7, WHS and xbox360 will follow in line with the ability for 7 Series to integrate all MS products.

the fact that the zune cannot play .wtv files recorded on a W7 MCE system it completely stupid.

so hopefully the 7 series can play wtv and can sync with a MCE system...

Please, I want some info about Canada...

For all the people complaining about the program shut down stuff...you can set it to close an app first time you hit the x or personaly i have it set to hold x down to close it and taping x just shunts it to the background.

Also i rarely use my stylus on 6.1 and 6.5, i do hate the lack of start menu in 6.5 but like most things winmo that took about three seconds of forum searching to add back in.

Try here

From what I read on the BBC website, there are a couple of bits such as the look and feel / 'bing button' that will be forced on phone manufacturers. If that's the case it might be a bit of a shame - having a default/supported method but general freedom to change things (e.g. no big picture buttons) would have sounded nicer.
Minimum hardware requirements are a good plan to protect the OS's image though.

well looks like Iphone will be the top system because this looks and sounds like nothing. in ten years time windows will be dead. probably people using this phone will get all the viruses and security problems windows has. this Windows and the google phone don't have the Apps or the dependability of the Iphone and thats just the way it is.

No screen pivot? Messy interface? This is going to fail.

You might want to watch the video on Channel 9 before you jump to conclusions.

This thing rocks and I want one...NOW!

My Omnia is the perfect phone, unlocked GPS, wifi, bt, everything works. Sometimes it's a little slow if I have too many apps running at once, but other than that it's great. I've of course applied a modified ROM to make it better, but that's the beauty, you can do that to winmo phones!

Of course I don't use it as a phone because I refuse to pay $30 for internet when I have wifi with me 90% of the time. Stupid Verizon....

I did. It looks like a cheap iPhone knockoff. Not only is Microsoft ripping from Apple again, they're ripping the original iPhone interface not the most recent one. No horizontal keyboard + messy interface = fail. Even Apple fixed their crappy vertical keyboard interface for the most part. Android also has a horizontal keyboard setup, the Blackberry is easier to type on, and so forth.

Microsoft needs to differentiate themselves from Apple, not try and play catch up. Everyone at Microsoft knows that they need to make the thing an iPhone killer, not a DOA system like the Zune is.

why not just buy an n900? best phone on market.