Steve Jobs: I Respect and Admire Adobe

we all know that they just want to try to keep people from accessing content anyway other than through itunes or the apple store.

Isn't there something wrong there? Isn't that anti-trust.. .or something? They're keeping people from accessing other people's content on their device.

You have to buy their stuff or jail break your phone and void your warranty...

If he calls his recent behavior as respecting and admiring Adobe, I would like to hear the things he would say if he hated them.

Apple doesn't want flash because allowing flash will take a significant amount of business away from the app store. Why pay anything for an app when there is a flash based website that has the same functionality as the app?

I wonder if adobe has actually created a flash extension for the iphone OS. I mean, apple has long been a closed company, but usually after enough pressure they come around, this time they didn't.

It makes me wonder if adobe had made a flash extension, showed it to apple, and it just wasn't up to par.

'closed system'....

Wow 'Communist Republic of Apple' Proven?

soooo Flash is a closed system? Interesting point Mr. Jobs. Don't quite understand how Flash can be a closed system when it is on a majority of websites. Meanwhile over at camp apple; Jobs appears to not want Flash because it will open HIS closed system Allowing developers to have more freedom.

Allowing for Flash will only broaden Apple's products because developers will have access to creating Flash based apps (doesn't mean they have to use Flash).

Is it me, or does the author of this article have some extreme bias for Steve Jobs / Apple? Sounds like an apologetic's defense letter for his client, not a tech article.

While how many websites Flash (or anything else) is used on has no bearing on whether or not it is "closed".

Though, I have to agree that this article does a good job portraying just how "closed" and controlling Jobs and Apple are when it comes to it's developers.

"he doesn't want a 3rd party, closed system interfering with the relationship between the developer and Apple's closed system"

Developers should be able to use any tools, they so choose, to develop applications as long as said applications fit the architecture and have the ability to run on the system at the end of the day.

Adding superficial requirements to developers can only stifle creativity and productivity.

if Flash was truly a closed software; do you think so many ppl would create websites using it?

The bias was made pretty clear when the author felt the need to explain Jobs point before even quoting him. I always appreciate an article that assumes I'm an imbecile unable to develop my on conclusions based on what someone has said.

But news flash to the author, Job's points don't make sense. Hes criticizing Adobe for being a closed platform when apple's foundation is based off of being a closed platform. Apple is proprietary everything.

Do you know what closed means? Flash is most definitely a "closed platform" you cannot edit the source code to change it's functionality.

The point here is that developers should be able to use anything they want (Flash included).

Al this has done is make people respect and like Jobs less. Not that we needed any help with hating this Communist, Elitist jerk.

FACTS: Flash sux
FACTS: Many sites use flash

OPINION: Give me a choice of whether or not I want to run Flash

DONE!

So STFU, Steve Jobs. I'm not going to be under your controlled closed-system.

I live and die free.

dman3k has the right idea.

It's what you get when two closed source, greedy companies want a share of the same pie.

Adobe wants to impose its own rigid proprietary standards on an equally rigid closed source system and that's bound to go wrong.

Seriously, Parrish? This is your article? You know that Steve can say whatever he wants, it's his ACTIONS that count.

A: Grammar? No big, but still. . .

B: They DON'T make sense. If Adobe makes an environment to build apps then why not let US figure out if we want those apps and let the developers figure out if they want to use that environment?

Please, think about it. I don't LIKE Flash (hate it) but it's cross-platform so you can make it for all - and THAT is what Steve hates. He wants lock-in.



Really? That's going to be your attitude?


Apple has you big time, Kevin. Sad.

He only has respect of your money. The money that's coming out of you into his bank account. Nothing else.

"Steve Jobs: I Respect and Admire Adobe"

Why?? I don't. They make crappy software and never patch it, then force everyone to deal with it. I hate Adobe.

Then again, I hate Apple software too. Quicktime demands it is to take over all media file playback on install, even though it doesn't have half the features of Media Player, then it screws up we browser settings all over the place. iTunes is just as crappy.

Now, MS, they have some decent software. There is a reason they are the leading software company. They do things far better than any other software company I've dealt with. They aren't perfect, no, but they are better than the rest. At least they patch stuff.

I'm actually kind of surprised Steve P. Jobs hasn't pulled out his ultimate weapon:

"You know how many porn websites streams videos through Flash?"

"Flash supports porn. Adobe supports porn."

"Do you want your kids to download porn?"

I love how when American's disagree with anyone they automatically call them 'socialists or communists.' If you knew the meaning of either term then you would realize that Apple is anything but 'communist.' If anything they are hardcore capitalist's determined to create a monopoly like the railroads did in the 1800's, they way Ma Bell did in the 1900s, and the way the medical insurance industry is doing now. What separates Apple from these industries is that the consumer now has the right to choose other products/platforms...can't say that about health insurance.

Wow, ignorance of economic systems proven!

'Capitalist Republic of Apple' Proven? Happy now?

I know the difference between capitalist and communism. Both are fucked up in their own respective way but Apple seem to merge the both together with an emphasis on later. Sure they don't kill thousands of people who disagree with them they just bust down the fucking doors and take their shit in the name of Intellectual property or they sue the shit out of you or they bribe you into shutting the fuck up.

its the same softening up strategy hitler used in other countries in europe.....

I love how people get Apple mixed up as some "good guy" company, when they are doing far more than MS has ever done to capture and hold their little world under their own control, and screw over as many of their customers as they can in the process.

I know a lot of people who see Apple is exactly the opposite of what their fans say they are. Apple fans are just too stupid to see it.

Seems to me he's had some people express their dislike towards his crappy attitude, and finally realized that it'd be in his best interest to set his ENORMOUS ego aside and make up a fake apology. Classic.

Jeez.... Jobs, make up your mind. He's going to ask for Flash support again soon, and Adobe won't give it back.

does anyone else get enraged every time they hear something about apple now days? i mean seriously if we erased apple from the face of the earth (joke) there really wouldn't be much of an impact, they invented 4-5 things that they will not let others touch, and seriously if they weren't made by apple i bet others would have made the same things shortly after (and not patent them or sue people from using them, seriously people?). does anyone else feel the same way or am i just more upset than i should be?

I think the world would be better off without Apple.

Of course, some of you want Ms Windows 7 or Mac OSX or iPhone OS or Adobe class of software for free or low profit and as an open standard for everyone to do what they could think off. If not this is evidence of some communist or socialist practice. Who says this? The dictator of "everything should be the idealistic way I think". The world has mayor problems but simplistic, selfish and non realistic thinking is not going to create the progress we all need.

As for Adobe and Apple they want the same as a big business companies but they were not on the same interest with the iDevices as Apple is now capable to create a bigger part of a platform and provide manny software tools that work better for them. Yes, this means a closed system and closed on Apple terms as long as is legal. But who is stopping Adobe or any other company to create a better closed or open system?

Some of you simply blame Apple for being capable to control more software and hardware parts of their own computer device (no invention mentioned here) but the lack of capability from others to create their own commercially successful devices is not evidence of socialism. And be prepared for more companies to create more closed system style of business in this decade because its working.

Any post that blasts both quicktime and itunes is an automatic thumbs up!

As for the article, I got this out of it: "I don't want their closed system hampering my ability to hamper the technology on my closed system."

Have you ever heard of the KKK? Well, it's kind of like that.

Its all about keeping Apple users buying from Apple content providers then anything else. Steve Jobs is all about marketing and steering people into spending more dollars is where its at.