Operation Payback Kicked from Twitter, Facebook

They can try to stop them, but they can't succeed. Anon uses the 'zerg rush' approach when attacking, and Facebook and Twitter lack the resources to stop them outright.

The best they can hope is for the stance on credit card companies to change or for them to get bored and go back to rick rolling.

I will probably get thumbed down by all those rebels out there, but

Twitter and Facebook are doing the right thing because
1) the organization is inciting illegal activity through the use of their domains
2) it violates the terms and agreements of use on Twitter and Facebook
3) they own the servers as well as the domain so have the legal right to chose who can use their services

For all those people who say this is some kind of violation of freedom of speech (and are not satisfied by the reasons above), I would like to point out that ALL entities, either corporate or individual, with a couple of exceptions, retain the right to provide or refuse to provide a service to another person. To force someone to serve someone else against their will is the definition of slavery. Facebook and Twitter are not suppressing them or forcing them to be quiet, they are denying an organization a service on the grounds that they violated the agreement they made when they made their accounts.

spam-rush-repeat !!

This is how I feel about the whole situation, ok. No one has the right to tell me or any one else what we can or can't do if it isn't harming any one else. I also feel that we should be able to say what we feel like saying with out being arrested or worse assassinated.

I also feel that our constitution states that the Government that represents us is not aloud to lie to our faces and tell us what to think and what to say. They're also supposed to not allow corruption to happen or abuses of power. Apparently according to these leaked cables that they don't want us seeing or hearing about, they're obviously doing exactly just that, abusing their powers.

Our Government "illegally" helped the Swiss Government get a hold of papers on a company that searches for lost treasures in exchange for a painting that a rich person over here says was stolen from him by the Nazis back in the day of the war with them. So they just straight bent the law for some rich arse over here in our country because he has some connections in the Government, obviously because he is supplying some people with money from his pocket.

I don't see our government helping me out with my issues and breaking laws for me to do so. Then again, guess I don't have much money to give them huh??

Our Government is at the stage where it is failing us which is what it is supposed to be here for, US.

End of rant.

Time to DDoS twitter and Facebook now?

Is it just me, or has the thumb-up/thumbs-down feature been disabled for the comments on at least this article?

lol, it looks like it because I just tried to give you a thumbs-up

It's not disabled, it's just b0rked. If you click view comments on forums you'll see all the up and down votes.

"the feel are unsupportive of wikileaks"

please! they have BLOCKED FUNDING to them! with out any formal charges being brought against the site, the US has sent 'letters' to the ONLY practical avenues of funding, telling them to block them!

its blocking free speech! as are twitter and facebook. now sure, its a free world and these are free companies that can do what they want! BUT THEY ARE BLOCKING FREE SPEECH!

now, I don't care at all about the wikileaks leaks, they have been so far, completely pointless and superficial, and certainly haven't achieved anything constructive by way of letting the people know of relevant secret information.

but that doesn't matter! North Korea bombed the S**T out of the south for NO REASON and they have had less action taken against them!

and even worse than a COUNTRY trying to block free speech, is random private , fundamentally important companies feeling they have the right to try and block it!

Completely agreed. They're protecting their own investments and doing what would be considered a safe business decision.




Glad that it's broken. I'm tired of illogical people having their way with perfectly valid comments. Interestingly coincidental that this is happening around the same time that I put my feedback up regarding this: http://feedbacks.tomshardware.com/ [...] vote-downs

You're comparing a hypocritical tyranical ruler that's deemed himself god and made all of his country a slave to kneel before him to Wikileaks' account being disabled on facebook? That's a bit extreme. I think I'll draw the line where people's lives are being extinguished by a madman and say that trumps Facebook making a reasonable self-preserving decision to distance themselves from a would-be scandal.

Told you wikileaks and its supporters were TERRORIST !!!!!!

DDoS is illegal but there are many government sponsored hackers whose job it is to harass sites like wikileaks. If the government is allowed to do it why not let everyone do it?

... if you mes with facebook, you mes with CIA... so be careful and/or resourceful...

but when ur like visa and pretty much have a monopoly in the world refusing service to a client becomes political, because that client is dependant on you and doesn't have a choice. and i dont see how visa will say that keepin donations open on the site was detrimental to them.
the people have a right to support an organisation (kkk is legal in the states) and have a right to the truth.....its more embarassing then anything, anyone following world events (and not rellying on fox or cnn) knew all of this already.....im more happy that because its wikileaks more people know about current events now then before

Way to prove his point. He was saying that America took LESS action against Korea than they did against Wikileaks. Korean issue SHOULD trump the Wikileaks issue, yet the US Gov seems to be spending more time trying to distinguish this issue.

Also, as much as I hate the spam, it is very funny to read, "Christmas was approaching . Everyone must was looking forward to it and was preparing for it." I mean come on, at least use a better translator. Apparently Chrismas was coming, but now it's not?

Spamers are doing some kind of DDoS attacks on Tom's.

united states constitution article 3 section 3 §2381-2390 as well as Encrypted Communications Privacy Act of 1996 section 3 (see 11-15) handles a good portion of any american or american company/oragnization involved with this as well as numerous theft laws and communications laws.
do not forget the united states IS at war. you DO have the right to your opinion, however if you act to aid a known criminal you just broke the law, because it also involves a criminal and criminal organization commiting various illegal acts as well as sedition by a foreign nationals that are providing aid to enemies of the state during a time of war you can be executed on the spot by any officer in the united states military if they so choose not to hand you over to federal authorities for trial.

please speak your mind, i enjoy & encourage it in every american. protections in american law only applies to americans or crimes committed on american soil. different laws apply to non american people and organizations off american soil and in this case because it was classified information makes it a matter of national security and the rules of enemy combatant can be applied under all the numerous circumstances. george bush jr was an idiot, but even idiots can get things right, he said it best with this little gem " Your either with us, or Your against us."
aside from that this wiki-retard obviously can't tell the difference between a camera tripod and an RPG as well as treason. i esp. love how he thinks he's not going to incite WW3 with the north korean and iranian bit. either way this guy and any one connected with him and the information he has is going to disappear or wind up dead very soon. my guess the russians will get him very shortly before he can leak thier info.
i found cornells.edu library the simplest and easiest to use if you care to look them up.


please don't do anything stupid as this is not like some protest against the RNC or DNC which will affect the rest of your life should you so choose to act. ( yes even most of the protestors arrested at the RNC in minneapolis did recieve felony convictions that already cost them their jobs and educations)

toms hyper link add in did not work i see so here you go on the cornell.edu site :
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ [...] 0_115.html

Dear F-14: The most threatened thing by release of this information so far, is the livelihood of our elected officials.

So you are proposing that government is willing to assassinate everyone connected to this organization to keep the truth buried.


Quoting laws on Treason would only be applicable if this man were American. He is Australian, learn to read.


You sir are a tool, in my opinion. When trying to convey your opinion, try to use punctuation. It would make you look more educated than your trailer park upbringing if you pasted into word and hit the spell check button. In closing, this entire debacle is embarrassing.

@ F-14;

All that stuff that you just spewed there is great and all, good research.. The problem is just that though. Congress has modified the constitution so many times now it's absurd. They have modified it to where they can officially do what ever the heck they want and get away with it.

I'm talking about the original Constitution not their version, the people that are raping and pillaging our country right now. I like how you added in the fact that I had brought up earlier in regards to being assassinated for exorcising our given right to free press and freedom of speech..

No matter what you say it's right in every ones faces now plain as day and guess what, people are starting to pay more attention which IMO is what Assange is attempting to do here,make people pay more attention to what the government is doing right behind our backs.

Now if you would like to comment on my little fact and what facts you know about it that would be awesome. I'm referring to the fact that our Government broke laws to help some rich arse with politicians in his pocket get a picture back. Which is turn was helping the Swiss Government illegally get a treasure that the treasure hunting company rightfully found and claimed.

Thus putting in Jeopardy allot of jobs that this company created for this adventure which they embarked on.

The funny thing is that it was run on MSNBC but the comments were disabled so no one could comment on the story, That is a perfect example of our Government at work.

That's great and all. Kind of like a beauty pageant answer: "I'm against world hunger". Now for the real world. You say people should do what they want as long as they don't harm anyone else. Clearly Wiki-Leaks is harming people by releasing secret documents. Fact of life: Secrets are sometimes important and do save lives and property. You might not like the fact that there are Military and State secrets, but that is irrelevant to your statement that peoples actions shouldn't harm other peoples actions. Or do you now wish to amend your comments to say you shouldn't harm other people unless they are doing something you personally disagree with? That philosophy is nothing but a recipe for anarchy. Do governments sometimes do things they shouldn't. Of course they do! But if you follow the news at all, the vast, vast, vast majority of the documents being released are not evidence of any wrong-doing, but simply secret communications that can potentially cause real harm when released.

The DDOS attacks also do harm. Financial harm. Or is financial harm okay? Is it okay someones steals your wallet or grabs a few choice items out of your home? Or do you now wish to amend your comment to say you can do financial harm to certain groups but not others because you perceive them as somehow deserving of punishment?

If you are so convinced that all secrets are are fine to post online then how about posting your bank account and routing number? Why not throw in your PIN number, SSN, and mother's maiden name for good measure? No, don't bother, I'm sure there is some organization out there that has already stolen that info and may just sell it someday. After all, they are probably thinking that no one has the right to tell them what to do.

I bet facebook and twitter are now on the list.

xD

No comment about the, bending the law for a person that has them in his pocket huh?

Oh who am I kidding. I must say you have just talked me right in to letting them take away our freedom to press and freedom of speech. I mean if it keeps us all safe from Al-Qaeda and their great axis of evil right?

By the way, good job proving your point with that extensive list of names of those people that have been harmed so far from the releases for you sir.

I think the list goes,

Governments Facade.

End of list.

Now how about we make a list of soldiers that have died for the Government for reasons they didn't even know about because all the secret talks are being held at the Bilderburg meetings behind close doors like the good old constitution calls for?

I clearly said that governments do things they shouldn't do.



Freedom of speech is often misquoted as your are doing here. The constitution guarantees that we have freedom of political speech, not freedom to publish classifed documents. The difference should be clear to a constitutional schoolar, such as yourself.



I do not know if anyone will be harmed, that is why I used the phrase "potential harm". Do you know for sure no one will be harmed? I'm glad you read the 100's of thousands of documents released, because I sure haven't.



Irrelevant to whether people are harmed by the realease of secret documents.

@Jane & Toms: Props for keeping us informed.

@ husker: The damage has been done, don't cry over spilled milk. This whole scenario is ripe with corruption and wrongdoings. I'm not saying what WikiLeaks did was right, but a lot of those "Classified" cables could have been made public with the truly classified sections blacked out, the problem with that is many of these documents have embarrassing information in them showing the true face of our elected officials, and not the public mask they wish us to see.

Can you for certain tell me more lives were lost because this information was made public vs. if it had stayed private? Since the information has already been made public, unless you have access to a parallel reality you are speculating.


The DDOS would have never happened had these same institutions that are being financially harmed, not financially harmed WikiLeaks by removing their customers choice of where to spend their money.

Back on topic, The operation payback sites did break the terms of their contracts, so Twitter and Facebook aren't doing anything wrong per say.

/Flameon!

seems to me that anonops is currently experiencing a DDOS attack!
Comcast says that the main page is, and gives a 404 on the website.

i though wikileaks and facebook had the same goal, spread around everyones private information.

No I cannot say. Exactly my point. So how can Wiki-leaks justify breaking the law in releasing these documents? They cannot be certain they won't be harming others. Everyone has to follow there moral convictions, but I do think Wiki-leaks is playing with fire here, either not knowing or not caring about the full consequences of there actions. If they are willing to knowingly break the law and in the process potentially put innocent lives at stake - all to make their point and/or change the world - how does that make them different from the governments the expose???

Because now people are going to start questioning things more rather then just turning a blind eye thinking that the Government will do what's best for us.

Do you not here the irony in your own argument? You are saying it's okay to do wrong if you think something good will come from it, which is exactly what you claim the government is doing.