Oasis: Rock Stars Should Appreciate Music Pirates
Music pirates only extend the artist's fan base... what's wrong with that?
Former Oasis frontman Liam Gallagher told Shortlist.com in an interview that music pirates don't bother him. After all, he copied music throughout most of his youth, taping songs off the radio or duplicating music tapes provided by friends. Although downloading music from the Internet isn't exactly the same as waiting for your favorite song to appear on the radio and hit "record," Gallagher doesn't see the difference.
"I don’t mind it," he said referring to music piracy. "I hate all these big, silly rock stars who moan--at least they’re downloading your music and paying attention, know what I mean? You should appreciate that--what are you moaning about? You’ve got five big houses, so shut up."
Gallagher's words were a bit more colorful than the edited quote we provided here, however he makes a valid point: pirated music could extend the fanbase at no extra cost to the musician and the publisher. An illegally downloaded album could lead to an eventual purchase, followed by subsequent purchases of previous albums and related merchandise.
According to TorrentFreak, Gallagher's brother and former Oasis guitarist member Noel Gallagher has also expressed similar views on music piracy in the past. "If people are willing to have faceless CDs like that in their collection, good for them," he said. "It would be absolutely ludicrous for a rock-star to demand that people pay money for albums because the kids haven’t got that much money to pay for an album, so if they can find it for free, go ahead!"
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They should know, they are bigger than the band that was bigger than Jesus (according to their lead guy).
"Gallagher's words were a bit more colorful than the edited quote we provided here"
An edited quote is not a quote, it's a lie.
"Gallagher's words were a bit more colorful than the edited quote we provided here"An edited quote is not a quote, it's a lie.
What do you care? It sounded funny regardless. I am against piracy but looking at it from a their point of view kind of makes sense except the part when they tell the big rock stars to shut the f&*k and quit moaning. So, now they are like... GO AHEAD! Download all our music for free! We don't need your money! We've already collected plenty of it!
Wow, finally a rock star that realized his 7-8 figure income is enough!! I applaud you rational thinking Oasis, I'm not a fan, but I'm definitely gunna pirate some of your music now and see what you guys are about =D (jp on the last part)
As an aspiring musician, I would have zero problem with my music being pirated. Why? Because I'm out to transform music, whereas 99% of artists across all of the "big money" genres just want to get rich(and therefore just copy the style of whoever they perceive to be cool). Rap is by far the worst offending genre, as soon as anybody gets a record deal, their next 60 singles go something like: "Uh, yeah, I has money, gold-plated grill, da lambo in da garage.... etc...."
I'd rather have my vision of music played far and wide than to become rich off of it.
Don't know if Liam's assertion is statistically validated. My personal opinion is that it really benefits bands at least in terms of concert tickets (which have a large share in profits of bands).
Paradoxically, the more music offer we have, the lower is the quality of music. Editors bring quality down so it is accessible to everyone (where can you find mastery of instruments technique in most popular music nowadays?)
And yes, I was an Oasis fan back in the 90s
It's "Quotation" people. Please, it is a pet peeve of mine when people say "here's a quote!"
Also, Artists themselves make money from concerts. Truth be told the only thing recording companies are good for are their equipment, which anyone who has been in a band knows is mostly a one time fee. Piracy can potentially harm the artist's royalties, but in order for them to really notice, they would have to be a huge band, in which case they probably go on tour and make money that way. If they don't tour, then just break up and call it quits. Seriously.
Don't know if Liam's assertion is statistically validated. My personal opinion is that it really benefits bands at least in terms of concert tickets (which have a large share in profits of bands).
Paradoxically, the more music offer we have, the lower is the quality of music. Editors bring quality down so it is accessible to everyone (mass marketing), while most-marketed artists tend to make simple songs for an audience used to be flooded in music. Forget about marketed artists really mastering instruments.
And yes, I was an Oasis fan back in the 90s.
you know back in the day my friends and i would copy tapes back and forth and no one complained. if i copy a cd for a friend, no one would complain. the only difference between then and now is in the information age they can "know" about it. but it is the same thing that has been going on for the last 40 years. i feel that once an artist has their music on the radio for all to hear (for free) it becomes public license. so i agree, downloading music shouldnt be a crime.
As a musician I would like to share that the majority of a bands income is not from album sales. Most of that money goes to the recording label. Most of the money a band will make will come from ticket sales and from merchandise.
Hmmm.... let's see...
Piracy == free promotion == more money eventually due to free advertising?
RIAA == devil==loss money?
To be honest, I owe some bands that I like a bit of money. Now I do not have the physical media, so they will not get $16 from me, but the record label would not give them that anyway... more like $1 or $2. If I saw them in person though, I would give them a gift basket with beer, delicious munchies, and a thank you card.
This makes me want to buy their albums.
Wish you people would smarten up it is not "piracy",,,it is copyright infringement,piracy usually happened on the high seas and mostly ,but not always during the time of Elizabeth I of England,for instance,,,when you use the term "piracy" you are playing into the hands of U NO WHOO...
I love and fully agree with this guys point of view.... i myself have bought not one album after getting them for free, and without just downloading anything that i see i wouldn't even know about some of my favorite bands today
A good example here. I've downloaded songs from a favorite artist. Then I proceeded to go to a show and buy merchandise with a couple of my friends because the music I liked all the music I downloaded.
I like these guys now. Their music isn't bad either.
A good example here. I've downloaded songs from a favorite artist. Then I proceeded to go to a show and buy merchandise with a couple of my friends because the music I liked all the music I downloaded.
I concur.
If Ozzy, OTEP, Avenue Q etc. came to my city, I'd go buy a ticket. =D
Isn't the bulk of the money the artist makes actually from concerts?
He is totally right, I always find it funny when record companies say "We lost X million $ this year due to piracy!" yeah, right, because everybody who downloaded one of your songs would have gone out and bought the album if he had no alternative >.>
i feel that once an artist has their music on the radio for all to hear (for free) it becomes public license. so i agree, downloading music shouldnt be a crime.
totally agree. it should only be a crime when you make money out of them.
a man of my own words...
I remember somewhat fondly when the Smashing Pumpkins released Machina II for free to spite Virgin Records - they gave 25 sets (1 album and 3 EPs form the set) to their friends and asked them to distribute copies.
Not all bands are totally obsessed with money. If you make interesting music, people will try before they buy, but at least they WILL buy.
If there was more equal representation of various musical genres on mainstream radio, perhaps that'd help; I find it hard to believe that someone would pirate something off the X Factor, it's not as if you have to look very far before it's in your face again.
Finally, somebody can see that piracy doesn't Always lead to loss of income.
If some people can't afford something right away, they might grab a full version online and if they like it they buy it.
Well some people end up buying it..
you know back in the day my friends and i would copy tapes back and forth and no one complained. if i copy a cd for a friend, no one would complain. the only difference between then and now is in the information age they can "know" about it. but it is the same thing that has been going on for the last 40 years. i feel that once an artist has their music on the radio for all to hear (for free) it becomes public license. so i agree, downloading music shouldnt be a crime.
Either you, or your friend had to buy the cd. So out of 2 people only 1 was stealing.
These days only one person buys the cd and hundreds or even thousands copy it.
1 thief does not equal hundreds or thousands of thieves...ergo not the same..
Not according to, that part of the story they posted a while ago after I showed them this which I copied from the listen again part of the iplayer. This was a long time ago now though.
http://www.skid-inc.net/stuff/radio1clip2.mp3
Either you, or your friend had to buy the cd. So out of 2 people only 1 was stealing. These days only one person buys the cd and hundreds or even thousands copy it. 1 thief does not equal hundreds or thousands of thieves...ergo not the same..
So then when a major radio station played a song and "hundreds or even thousands" of people taped it, you're saying that that 1 radio station = hundreds or thousands of thieves? Only the radio station paid after all.
Rap is by far the worst offending genre, as soon as anybody gets a record deal, their next 60 singles go something like: "Uh, yeah, I has money, gold-plated grill, da lambo in da garage.... etc...."I'd rather have my vision of music played far and wide than to become rich off of it.
HAHA, you hit the nail on the head. Was thinking the EXACT same thing. Most of the music that is pushed in radio and video format across all genres nowadays belong solely in the clubs, not shoved on the airwaves. When the 90's ended it seemed like my beloved Hip Hop took a turn for flash over substance. Im not very old myself, but kids REALLY don't know how bad it is...Justin Beiber? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I agreed with the latest comments. I am not that old neither (25) and just checked Justin Bieber on Youtube...OMG! No instruments, bling bling, stupid lyrics and 16-y-old kid with poker face...74m visits on YouTube?? wtf...however I must admit Bieber-like artists already existed in the 90s and he is just 16, so I don't blame him....at his age, I was in the mosh with Sepultura, Metallica or listening to Strauss (at least they mastered some instruments/composition).
"An illegally downloaded album could lead to an eventual purchase, followed by subsequent purchases of previous albums and related merchandise."
How much more naive could you possibly get?
I agree. If you like an artist, you are supporting them far more by buying a t-shirt or concert ticket than getting a CD or buying a track off iTunes. Viva la P2P!
If you like an artist, go to the concerts and buy T-shirts. Most never make a dime off their CD sales. That's why the labels are the ones so pissed about pirated music.
Even for those artists that are adamantly against music piracy, they virtually all admit that concerts are where they make their money. Piracy hurts the music labels, who have abused their position of power for enough decades that listeners and musicians alike are seeking alternative methods of distribution/consumption.
Now let's apply all these supporting comments to software/games...