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U.N. Wants Increased Internet Surveillance

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The U.N. suggests services such as Skype keep records of its "chat room postings."

The United Nations has expressed a desire to increase surveillance of internet users to aid the investigation and subsequent prosecution of terrorists.

A 148-page report named "The Use of the Internet for Terrorist Purposes" says terrorists are utilizing social networks and sharing sites like Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Dropbox to spread propaganda.

"Potential terrorists use advanced communications technology often involving the Internet to reach a worldwide audience with relative anonymity and at a low cost," said Yury Fedotov, executive director of the U.N. Office on Drugs and Crime.

The report stresses that "one of the major problems confronting all law enforcement agencies is the lack of an internationally agreed framework for retention of data held by ISPs."

It adds that it would be an advantage if certain websites such as instant-messaging services and VoIP providers including Skype would keep records of "communication over the Internet such as chat room postings."

Other suggestions in the report include:

Open Wi-Fi networks:

Requiring registration for the use of Wi-Fi networks or cybercafes could provide an important data source for criminal investigations... There is some doubt about the utility of targeting such measures at Internet cafes only when other forms of public Internet access (e.g. airports, libraries and public Wi-Fi hotspots) offer criminals (including terrorists) the same access opportunities and are unregulated.

Cell phone tracking:

Location data is also important when used by law enforcement to exclude suspects from crime scenes and to verify alibis.

Terror video games:

Video footage of violent acts of terrorism or video games developed by terrorist organizations that simulate acts of terrorism and encourage the user to engage in role-play, by acting the part of a virtual terrorist.

Paying companies for surveillance:

It is therefore desirable that Governments provide a clear legal basis for the obligations placed on private sector parties, including... how the cost of providing such capabilities is to be met.


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    davewolfgang , October 25, 2012 3:09 AM
    Not ever while I can breathe. And I'm a Marine so it's going to be pretty darn hard to get me to stop breathing.
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    wolley74 , October 25, 2012 3:08 AM
    Minority ruins it for the many, yet again
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    velocityg4 , October 25, 2012 3:37 AM
    The only way to get this BS to stop is to vote all these people out. This Orwellian world is the fault of the voter. Politicians wouldn't keep coming up with ways to oversee the populace if it got their asses kicked out of office.

    It's understandable when it happens under a government where the people have no power. It is unfathomable why people voluntarily give up their liberty.
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  • 20 Hide
    wolley74 , October 25, 2012 3:08 AM
    Minority ruins it for the many, yet again
  • 21 Hide
    davewolfgang , October 25, 2012 3:09 AM
    Not ever while I can breathe. And I'm a Marine so it's going to be pretty darn hard to get me to stop breathing.
  • 7 Hide
    epicdan , October 25, 2012 3:11 AM
    Yeah..... you better ignore this US.
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    asdflksflkjsdf , October 25, 2012 3:18 AM
    Yeah..... if you wanna be cost effective, you better ignore the US. No sense wasting valuable $$$ there; the copyright guys will spend it for you and get 10xs the surveillance in the process.
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    velocityg4 , October 25, 2012 3:37 AM
    The only way to get this BS to stop is to vote all these people out. This Orwellian world is the fault of the voter. Politicians wouldn't keep coming up with ways to oversee the populace if it got their asses kicked out of office.

    It's understandable when it happens under a government where the people have no power. It is unfathomable why people voluntarily give up their liberty.
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    joytech22 , October 25, 2012 3:38 AM
    This user wants his own large private network that no governing force is allowed to be connected to, and is heavily monitored by its team of providers to ensure that no governing force attempts to infiltrate it and spy on what activities might be taking hold within.. :) 
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    Kiowa789 , October 25, 2012 3:38 AM
    "Terror video games"
    HA, Right, low cost? No it isn't, any game that will envelop a kid in being a terrorist, is non-existent, no terrorist organization has contracted a video game developing company to develop a terrorist game, because the developer will reject it, no matter what, dev's know better not to.
    "Cell Phone Tracking"
    Yeah, I just want to let people that I don't know to track me wherever I go, that just sounds fantastic, I guess they want to know when I'm pooping too.
    "Open Wi-fi networks"
    Any tech smart person knows to avoid these, if any government official knows not to, why are they a government official?
    "Paying companies for Surveillance"
    No company will accept money from a terrorist organization, as no sane company would want to involve themselves with said terrorist organization, but again, the definition of *Terrorist organization* can cover many things, such as people on the internet who are sick of the current government, and decide to revolt there.

    Again, just a list of opinions of mine, I personally believe that its best to offer well thought out logic on the issue, instead of spouting nonsense about the U.S. Ignoring it, if the U.S. should ignore it, tell them with rational thought.
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    fuzzion , October 25, 2012 3:41 AM
    0_O And this is news how? They have been doing this for as long as i can remember
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    Anonymous , October 25, 2012 3:47 AM
    Wow.... Sounds like WE ARE ALL terrorists... This is nothing more than control of people. This HAS ZERO to do with terrorism the way we think of it. Big Brother wants to know everything about us and our connections not to prevent terrorism but to consolidate it's already UNLAWFUL power!

    The government is the one spreading propaganda and this article is a good example.

    If you believe in REAL liberty and REAL freedom, watch out, the government WILL consider you a threat and a "terrorist". Liberty is the opposite of government power. Even Thomas Jefferson in a letter dated January 1787 to James Madison stated "I prefer dangerous liberty to peaceful servitude". That i would happen to agree with myself

    Makes u wonder who the real terrorists are... (Hint: They are usually found in Government agencies around the world destroying liberty)
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    brickman , October 25, 2012 3:56 AM
    So sick and tired of the U.N. They are the real terrorist. Just look at Syria. Never would of never gotten this bad if they didn't support Russia and China. .
  • 11 Hide
    Darkerson , October 25, 2012 4:01 AM
    I want the U.N. to go fuck themselves. But am I going to get my way?

    Seriously, this whole mindset of "The bad guys can do bad things with it, so lets take it away from everyone...for safety and security" mentality needs to stop.
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    fonzy , October 25, 2012 4:14 AM
    Voting doesn't help, they keep telling us through the media that things are different but we keep going down the same road regardless who is in there.

    The only way things will change is if we bust down the door and toss them all out by their ears.
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    NoUserBar , October 25, 2012 4:21 AM
    If the government can track us with electronic devices.... SO CAN TERRORISTS, it's called hacking. Having people put there address on facebook is bad enough (stalkers can now go directly to your home YAY). I am of the opinion that it would be stupid to provide criminals, or corrupt agents withing law enforcement agencies, with ways to access the whereabouts of people at any old time of day.

    Example: Lets goo check google and see where to plant that bomb for most devastating effect fufu /example end
    Oh wait they can already do that easily..
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    mcd023 , October 25, 2012 4:38 AM
    A) because terrorists discuss plans over Skype, b) what the heck has the UN done to fight terrorism, c) the same UN that wants to monitor US elections for voter fraud while doing nothing about countries like Zimabawe or Libya...geez
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    digiex , October 25, 2012 4:47 AM
    What country has the strongest influence in the UN, and very aggressive in its fight against terrorism?

    This country is behind this nonsense.
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    killerclick , October 25, 2012 6:04 AM
    Remember, no Russian.
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    Kami3k , October 25, 2012 6:15 AM
    Meh, it's the UN.

    Its "power" is such a joke right now.
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    Anonymous , October 25, 2012 7:25 AM
    I can totally understand the call to Anarchy!
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    J3d1M1nD7r1cKs , October 25, 2012 7:31 AM
    Comment 1 is bullshit (and is a bit suckered in paradigm), and comment 5 is right on.

    We need to do something about it. Vote people. Vote! YOU - we - we need to understand our local governments more, our local representatives, and PAY ATTENTION to what is/may be going on to make the big picture.

    Friends, this requires research, and passion for your country (The u.s.a.) and it's founding principles.

    Please, do your part, and look into everything. I would advise that you.as far as to admonish: Question everything.

    Everything must be questioned as to its truth or usefulness. If the people don't do it, (and they don't maintain a commodity backed currency) the country will fail.

    Please listen. Every country - EVERY civilization, without exception, throughout history that has left commodity backed currency (aka become fiat currency or to leave some commodity backed notes)- has failed on average at 25 years post leaving a gold standard or metal backing of some sort.

    The maximum standard (the longest a country has survived without implode / collapse) in all of history of fiat money is 32 years.

    The U.S. is now at 42 years.... We've lasted so long and paperwalled so extremely our way out of ... We've been the first **true reserve** world currency.


    At 16.42 Trillion and climbing, it can't last much longer folks. BIG, as in major changes have to take place. The majority of Americans are not able to face these changes, (....) People beleive what they want to believe, nothing changes. Americans have become complacent.
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    J3d1M1nD7r1cKs , October 25, 2012 7:32 AM
    Comment 1 is bullshit (and is a bit suckered in paradigm), and comment 5 is right on.

    We need to do something about it. Vote people. Vote! YOU - we - we need to understand our local governments more, our local representatives, and PAY ATTENTION to what is/may be going on to make the big picture.

    Friends, this requires research, and passion for your country (The u.s.a.) and it's founding principles.

    Please, do your part, and look into everything. I would advise that you.as far as to admonish: Question everything.

    Everything must be questioned as to its truth or usefulness. If the people don't do it, (and they don't maintain a commodity backed currency) the country will fail.

    Please listen. Every country - EVERY civilization, without exception, throughout history that has left commodity backed currency (aka become fiat currency or to leave some commodity backed notes)- has failed on average at 25 years post leaving a gold standard or metal backing of some sort.

    The maximum standard (the longest a country has survived without implode / collapse) in all of history of fiat money is 32 years.

    The U.S. is now at 42 years.... We've lasted so long and paperwalled so extremely our way out of ... We've been the first **true reserve** world currency.


    At 16.42 Trillion and climbing, it can't last much longer folks. BIG, as in major changes have to take place. The majority of Americans are not able to face these changes, (....) People beleive what they want to believe, nothing changes. Americans have become complacent.
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