Google Forced To Give Viacom Video Logs, But Can Keep Search Source Code

By Humphrey Cheung, published on July 4, 2008 at 4:30 AM
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Mountain View (CA) - Viacom won a significant victory in their $1 billion copyright infringement case against Google/YouTube. Google has been ordered to hand over terabytes of video search information that shows the details of every video ever played on YouTube. However Google did dodge a huge bullet as Judge Louis Stanton denied Viacom’s request for source code to Google’s search engine.

Viacom says it wanted the video logs to prove whether copyright-protected videos were more heavily watched than amateur clips. Viacom attorneys offered to provide Google hard drives to store the 12 terabytes of data. While the logs will be sanitized to protect real names and email addresses, they will still include the time a video is played, the login id and the IP address.

Google’s attorneys tried to block the request on privacy grounds, but Stanton argued that IP addresses aren’t accurate enough to provide the true identity of the video viewer. Google has also been ordered to provide copies off all videos that have ever been removed from YouTube.

Viacom contends Google’s YouTube infringes on its works on a massive scale and that the online video site isn’t just providing storage space for the videos. The company contends that YouTube commits "duplication, distribution and public display" when a video is watched. Furthermore, Viacom attorneys insist that the video is copied to the computer (in cache) after it is played, something which perpetuates the piracy.

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But while Google was forced to give up video logs, the judge denied Viacom’s request for Google’s and YouTube’s search engine source code. Google claimed the code represented 1000 man years of development time and said divulging the code would be risking the loss of Google’s core business. Viacom countered by saying it wanted to prove that Google manipulated the code to treat copyrighted material differently, but Judge Stanton didn’t buy that argument.

Viacom also wanted Google’s advertising schema database which contains all the advertising companies and amounts charged for ads within YouTube. This request was also denied by Judge Stanton because he didn’t think it was relevant to the case.

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skittle 07/04/2008 12:54 PM
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shameful, but this little tidbit is interesting:

Quote :Google’s attorneys tried to block the request on privacy grounds, but Stanton argued that IP addresses aren’t accurate enough to provide the true identity of the video viewer. Google has also been ordered to provide copies off all videos that have ever been removed from YouTube.


Isnt that one of the MAJOR arguments the RIAA uses in court to sue consumers? I hope the lawers of jamie thomas read that judgment.

matthroswell 07/04/2008 1:26 PM
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F Viacom. Google is definitely the lesser of two evils here. Anyone who wants to watch 'Real World' or 'Tela Tequila' clips (much less replays of them in lower resolution 10 minute segments) is a scourge upon the earth who contributes very little, if anything, to society.

nvalhalla 07/04/2008 3:51 PM
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skittle :
shameful, but this little tidbit is interesting:Isnt that one of the MAJOR arguments the RIAA uses in court to sue consumers? I hope the lawers of jamie thomas read that judgment.



You beat me to it!

Remember that the judge said this when Viacom starts filing John Doe lawsuits to those addresses...

Pei-chen 07/04/2008 5:31 PM
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Wow, Viacom wants to steal everything Google has; source code, advertiser database. Why don't they request Google's mainframe and servers while they're at it? After all, it used to contain copyrighted material so they belong to Viacom too.

klarkmdb 07/04/2008 10:01 PM
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Google has it's own business, and viacom wants to take a piece of that pie. Tsk, tsk, they really want to take advantage of an oppoturnity even if it means deviating from the real stake.

Anonymous 07/05/2008 8:58 AM
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That was a bad attempt of Viacom, trying to get their hands on Goggle's core business secrets. Shame on you Viacom! .|..

Hitokage 07/06/2008 1:36 PM
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I want to see those bastards try and sue half the bloody Internet just for watching their shows online.

Sheesh, it's not like Google didn't remove them as they showed up. Besides... what does Viacom need with Google's search engine source code? There is absolutely no reason for that. That's like stealing a kid's lunch money, being forced to give it back... and your house, just in spite.

jason_mcallister 07/06/2008 9:34 PM
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BOYCOTT VIACOM! I don't think they deserve our business.

jason_mcallister 07/06/2008 9:37 PM
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oh yeah, they licenced "Star Trek Legacy" for the PC. Reason enough to boycott! LOL

Anonymous 07/07/2008 3:06 PM
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This is a shame. Viacom wants Google's business because they want another way to get their mind dumbing MTV shows to everyone.

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