Galaxy Nexus Benchmarked, Beats iPhone 4S in Browsing
The Galaxy Nexus is the perfect browsing machine, but in terms of graphics, it doesn't come out on top.
Galaxy Nexus users might be having a spot of trouble when it comes to consistency in volume but they're definitely not experiencing any problems when it comes to speed. AnandTech has been busy benchmarking the phone, which has yet to make its U.S. debut, and found that, while the Samsung Galaxy Nexus came out on top for browsing speed, rendering web pages faster than any other phone on the market right now, but the phone lost out to the iPad 2, the iPhone 4S and the Samsung Galaxy S II when it came to graphics.
Apple's iPhone 4S placed second for browsing, with the Motorola Droid RAZR coming in third, and the Galaxy S2 and Droid 3 rounding out the top five. In a second set of browser benchmarks, the Galaxy Nexus retained its crown while spots two through five went to the Droid Razr, the iPhone 4S, the iPhone 4 and the Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch, respectively. The top five list for graphics sees the iPad 2 take first place, the iPhone 4S second, the Galaxy S2 third, the Galaxy Nexus fourth, and, last but not least, the Samsung Infuse 4G at number five.
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Well, this was something that ought to have been known by everyone a long time back.....
Well, this was something that ought to have been known by everyone a long time back.....
Why is an iPad included in this list? That is a tablet, it has a larger battery and more surface area to dissipate the extra heat given off by internal components and thus they can clock the CPU/GPU up higher.
Not happy with how large the gap between the Galaxy Nexus and galaxy 2 is. Didn't realise how good the 4s's GPU was. Nice to get some comparison however!
Why when Android loss in an area, their fan boy can say its not critical. but when other OS loss to Android in certain area, they are not allow to say its not critical by Android fan boi??
One word:
http://everythingeeki.blogspot.com [...] droid.html
The new Androids are very very powerful and so are the new iPhones. I just got a Droid RAZR...its quite fast. The thing that the iPhones have, in addition to great performance is the quality of the screen. While they're not the largest screens the display quality sets the bar. I look forward to when the Android devices can get that nice big 4"+ screen and beat both the iPhones ppi and color quality, contrast, and viewing angles. We're not there yet, but it coming.
Some think the latest Androids are already there...but those folks are not being honest or objective...and yes it does make a big difference. ...but I still like my Droid RAZR vary much.
I really shouldn't post before coffee...sheesh. ...but you get my point.
I like Android Hardware, but I like Apple App Store... Difficult to make decision... Apple is still doing a very good job at their store.
The Android Market is vastly improved from what it was a year ago, I like it fine compared to Apple's App Store.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gala [...] 289-6.html
The charts seem a bit off. The ipad was 2-2.5 times quicker than the samsung 10.1 see link above. But in the graph its on this article 4.25 times quicker in the same metric. Dosn't quite add up!
How relevant is this benchmark anyway? "Oh, look running this javascript proggy that other proggy shows X", oh, well, so what? Are we supposed to run JVMs written in javascript:
http://developers.slashdot.org/sto [...] -runs-java
So the Nexus, clocked 50% higher than the 4S, is less than 10% faster in browser scores? And the SGX540 in the Nexus (which is clocked almost twice as fast as previous versions) gets completely owned by the 4S?
And this is impressive?
To the people saying you don't need that kind of GPU power, what about streaming HD game content to your TV and using your iPhone as the controller?
So the Nexus, clocked 50% higher than the 4S, is less than 10% faster in browser scores? And the SGX540 in the Nexus (which is clocked almost twice as fast as previous versions) gets completely owned by the 4S?And this is impressive?To the people saying you don't need that kind of GPU power, what about streaming HD game content to your TV and using your iPhone as the controller?
um... do you not understand the difference in gpu and such? it would be like looking at the specs of an nvidia card and an ati card and saying how the ati card isnt 400% faster than the nvidia (cuda cores to stream processers)
also to some extent you have to take in that ios is one device, while android is multipul... you cant say "if the ios was XXXX it would beat android" because the fact is it isnt, and android is.
now
Why when Android loss in an area, their fan boy can say its not critical. but when other OS loss to Android in certain area, they are not allow to say its not critical by Android fan boi??
take a look at the fps... 30fps on a mobile device is more than good enough.
and to the above quote... you can do that, who does that, and whats the purpose, when games on those plat forms are touch based, you have to look at the tablet, and when they arent touch based, the controls are so bad that the games are border line unplayable.
Wow... just... Wow.... i have refrained from linking to anandtech on toms out of respect... but toms is always a day or two behind. like this. Has crappy info. No edititing. Horrible spelling... and now they are flat out posting anandtechs reviews....
The difference in speed in regard to the browser is negligible. Most people wont notice a fraction of a second.
However, everyone defending the inferior GPU on the Nexus and saying it does not make a difference could not be more wrong. Playing video, games and even just general usage all make use the of the GPU. Its the difference from smooth experience, compared to a choppy one. And anyone who has navigated Androids GUI sure as hell knows its not as smooth as Apples iOS.
So please be objective or else your arguments dont hold any weight.
People complaining about the GPU or defending it are making it an Apple vs Android thing, but it's not. It's more a Nvidia vs Imagination Technologies (or other smart phone GPU maker). Of course the new SGX543MP2 chip is gonna be faster than the old SGX540 one.
Android phone makers need to step up and start putting faster GPU's in their phones.
I would really wanna compare how either the iOS or Android handle their graphics, by having toms or someone benchmark Apple and Android phones with the same CPU/GPU combo.
um... do you not understand the difference in gpu and such? it would be like looking at the specs of an nvidia card and an ati card and saying how the ati card isnt 400% faster than the nvidia (cuda cores to stream processers)also to some extent you have to take in that ios is one device, while android is multipul... you cant say "if the ios was XXXX it would beat android" because the fact is it isnt, and android is. nowtake a look at the fps... 30fps on a mobile device is more than good enough.and to the above quote... you can do that, who does that, and whats the purpose, when games on those plat forms are touch based, you have to look at the tablet, and when they arent touch based, the controls are so bad that the games are border line unplayable.
1 - Yes, it is like looking at Nvidia and ATI. The iPhone 4s is clocked lower but performs better. Which is why it's bad if people just look at mhz.
2 - 'ios is one device, while android is multipul' - interesting spelling aside, we're comparing the BEST Android phone to the iPhone. So I don't see a problem.
3 - 30 FPS? Enough? Switch from 30 to 60 and see if you'll notice the difference. Hint - it's very different. Not only that but on more detailed more modern releases you wont get anywhere near 30 fps if it's been designed to run at that speed on the iPhone 4S.
4 - You can wirelessly stream to your TV with iPhone 4S, and you can plug in a game controller on Android, so it's very relevant.
The bottom line is that GPU performance is the most limiting factor in phones, particularly as resolutions get higher - so this is a big with for Apple.
People complaining about the GPU or defending it are making it an Apple vs Android thing, but it's not...Of course the new SGX543MP2 chip is gonna be faster than the old SGX540 one
Sorry, but it's obviously an Apple vs Android 'thing'. Apple chose to put the fastest GPU of any mobile phone in their phone. Samsung didn't. Samsung's choice, Samsung' failure - and as the biggest representative of Android handsets, Android's loss.
Who cares about iOS vs Android with the same CPU/GPU combination, given that they never have the same CPU / GPU in real life. People care about the devices and how they actually perform, not how much better their hardware would perform if it were possible to install either on a single device.
big win*
Just to be clear, I mean that the Galaxy Nexus chose not to use the fastest GPU, not Samsung :-)
I'll give up a couple milliseconds of browser speed for SIRI any day of the week.
Why when Android loss in an area, their fan boy can say its not critical. but when other OS loss to Android in certain area, they are not allow to say its not critical by Android fan boi??
Good point! When iPhone does something well, it's downplayed. Growth of game sales on iOS and Android are huge. What's even more funny is most of you are gamers so GPU is always important.
Just like when Apple said to Adobe fix flash or let it die- All of the Android fanbois were up in arms about being able to use flash - GUESS WHAT - Apple was right - Adobe is killing mobile flash. LOL
TEGRA 3 (Kal-El) is not going to perform as expected - Read it and weep
More suprised this article was up on another site on November 9th and Tom's still hasn't posted such horrible news to it's Android fan-base.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
um... do you not understand the difference in gpu and such? it would be like looking at the specs of an nvidia card and an ati card and saying how the ati card isnt 400% faster than the nvidia (cuda cores to stream processers)also to some extent you have to take in that ios is one device, while android is multipul... you cant say "if the ios was XXXX it would beat android" because the fact is it isnt, and android is. nowtake a look at the fps... 30fps on a mobile device is more than good enough.and to the above quote... you can do that, who does that, and whats the purpose, when games on those plat forms are touch based, you have to look at the tablet, and when they arent touch based, the controls are so bad that the games are border line unplayable.
BULL SH*T - Performance/GHZ - it's owned buy the A5 in graphics performance *period* and for Sunspider - it should be faster with 4 cores and 400 more MHz! I would expect a quad core A5 architecture to smoke it at 1.2 GHz...
The Nexus architecture is clocked higher 1.2GHz vs the A5 800MHz to perform better - It would be nice to see battery benchmarks as well to make it even. Apple under clocks to provide better battery life and Android clocks higher to provide better performance but at the cost of battery.
um... do you not understand the difference in gpu and such? it would be like looking at the specs of an nvidia card and an ati card and saying how the ati card isnt 400% faster than the nvidia (cuda cores to stream processers)also to some extent you have to take in that ios is one device, while android is multipul... you cant say "if the ios was XXXX it would beat android" because the fact is it isnt, and android is. nowtake a look at the fps... 30fps on a mobile device is more than good enough.and to the above quote... you can do that, who does that, and whats the purpose, when games on those plat forms are touch based, you have to look at the tablet, and when they arent touch based, the controls are so bad that the games are border line unplayable.
PSSSTTTTT TEGRA 3 ain't performing the way NVIDIA is hoping - http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09 [...] e-margins/
Which is why they have to clock it at 1.2 GHz with 4 cores to beat a dual core at 800MHz...
Nvidia will hopefully have their game on by the time they start making their Cortex-A15 cored chips.
Good point! When iPhone does something well, it's downplayed. Growth of game sales on iOS and Android are huge. What's even more funny is most of you are gamers so GPU is always important.Just like when Apple said to Adobe fix flash or let it die- All of the Android fanbois were up in arms about being able to use flash - GUESS WHAT - Apple was right - Adobe is killing mobile flash. LOLTEGRA 3 (Kal-El) is not going to perform as expected - Read it and weepMore suprised this article was up on another site on November 9th and Tom's still hasn't posted such horrible news to it's Android fan-base.BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
So your proof that the tegra 3 is bad comes from a web site that has a strong bias against nVidia and it also doesn't post any proof.
BULL SH*T - Performance/GHZ - it's owned buy the A5 in graphics performance *period* and for Sunspider - it should be faster with 4 cores and 400 more MHz! I would expect a quad core A5 architecture to smoke it at 1.2 GHz... The Nexus architecture is clocked higher 1.2GHz vs the A5 800MHz to perform better - It would be nice to see battery benchmarks as well to make it even. Apple under clocks to provide better battery life and Android clocks higher to provide better performance but at the cost of battery.
Could you please tell me how you reached the 800MHz clock speed of the A5 on the iPhone 4S, or did you choose a number at random that was lower than 1GHz?
I can't say this result shocks me. It's faster than the iPhone 4s in browsing, that is something to be expected since it has a higher clock rate. It's slower than the iPhone 4S and Galaxy S II when 3d rendering, again nothing that wasn't expected since it has an inferior GPU when compared to the other two.
OK, i decided to skip all of the fan-boy comments and jump in and state my thoughts. I am very curious to see how the Samsung Galaxy SII Skyrocket does as it has 300MHz on the normal SII that was benched. Especially with the 1 cent deal at amazon....
Another point... Why was the iPad included? Its a tablet not a phone, and only for iOS... Why not include a Tegra 2 Honeycomb tablet for additional comparison?
Could you please tell me how you reached the 800MHz clock speed of the A5 on the iPhone 4S, or did you choose a number at random that was lower than 1GHz?
800 MHz is the 'estimated' clock rate according to Amazons official comparison between the top Android and iOS phones. Just thought I would jump in there
1 - Yes, it is like looking at Nvidia and ATI. The iPhone 4s is clocked lower but performs better. Which is why it's bad if people just look at mhz.2 - 'ios is one device, while android is multipul' - interesting spelling aside, we're comparing the BEST Android phone to the iPhone. So I don't see a problem.3 - 30 FPS? Enough? Switch from 30 to 60 and see if you'll notice the difference. Hint - it's very different. Not only that but on more detailed more modern releases you wont get anywhere near 30 fps if it's been designed to run at that speed on the iPhone 4S. 4 - You can wirelessly stream to your TV with iPhone 4S, and you can plug in a game controller on Android, so it's very relevant.The bottom line is that GPU performance is the most limiting factor in phones, particularly as resolutions get higher - so this is a big with for Apple.Sorry, but it's obviously an Apple vs Android 'thing'. Apple chose to put the fastest GPU of any mobile phone in their phone. Samsung didn't. Samsung's choice, Samsung' failure - and as the biggest representative of Android handsets, Android's loss.Who cares about iOS vs Android with the same CPU/GPU combination, given that they never have the same CPU / GPU in real life. People care about the devices and how they actually perform, not how much better their hardware would perform if it were possible to install either on a single device.
we are talking about a mobile device here, i'm well aware that 60fps is a goal to strive toward in setting up a game, but honestly, 30fps for me is a bare minimum for any action game, and 15fps for an mmo style rpg, though that is coming from someone who played everquest luclin on a pc that was half as good as the minimum specs. so take it for what it is.
now on an fps, that i will dumb graphics down to the 60+ mark, usualy till its playing so fast that even the lowest spikes are over 60fps if i can, but on a game like... lets say skyrim, ill pump the graphics till they are in the 30fps range, only thing i ever leave out is shadows due to how much extra they seam to take to have good.
but im a bit off topic there.
do the phones upscale games to the tv? as in if the tv is 720 or 1080p they run at 1080 or 720p or is it just an upscale of what ever resolution the phone is.
and also, can you list some of the games that do this, and take external controllers? not because i don't believe you, i want to see what they are like.
PSSSTTTTT TEGRA 3 ain't performing the way NVIDIA is hoping - http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09 [...] e-margins/Which is why they have to clock it at 1.2 GHz with 4 cores to beat a dual core at 800MHz...Nvidia will hopefully have their game on by the time they start making their Cortex-A15 cored chips.
lets say that it is all true.
take a look at... well... lets go a game with physx, mafia 2.
take a look at it with physx on with an nvidia and an ati card.
thats kind of what the difference is here. iphone can make the os around the hardware and can pull more form it, while android is built like windows, and fits multipul hardware configs.
thats why im saying that just looking at the clocks is a moot point,
Could you please tell me how you reached the 800MHz clock speed of the A5 on the iPhone 4S, or did you choose a number at random that was lower than 1GHz?
Why would I pull a number like 800GHz out of my a$$?
Google it, Wikipedia, scroll up to the top of this article and look at the chart. It's stated in many places on the web.
Honestly, I want Nvidia to do better because it puts pressure on Apple and others to do better.
a 4 core 1.2GHz chip should toast a dual core 0.8GHz chip unless it's poorly designed comparatively.