China Warns of 'Consequences' in Google's Plans
Google is getting closer to uncensoring search results for China, but China says such an act would be "unfriendly and irresponsible."
While things have been relatively quiet recently on the Google and China feud from January, things flared up recently after Google CEO Eric Schmidt was quoted by the Wall Street Journal as saying that "something will happen soon" in the matter of Google's operations in China.
People familiar with the matter say that Google isn't likely to withdraw from the country entirely, but it could be making a bold move to cease censorship of search results generated by Google's search engine.
Such a move would undoubtedly put the search giant in direct odds with the Chinese government. According to Reuters, China's Minister of Industry and Information Technology, Li Yizhong, acknowledged, "Google has made its case, both publicly and privately," but did not confirm or deny if his ministry was in talks with Google.
When reporters asked what China would do in response to Google offering uncensored results, Li responded, "If you don't respect Chinese laws, you are unfriendly and irresponsible, and the consequences will be on you."
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Is this really a wise thing to do Google? especially in light of the recent hacks of American companies from... CHINA?! RIP...
Google - Just pull out.
Isn't Google dealing with the same country that massacred college students for bucking their system, wake up google and smell the roses, you cannot force these people to give up there stranglehold on their citizens, and the only thing that will result is your employees stationed there either being jailed for breaking chinese law....On a side note every day the U.S. government gets deeper and deeper in dept, dept that is financed in a large part by who else, China
Admit it already, Google already paid the consequences of entering the Chinese market place... they got hacked. What else could they do invade?
Oh yeah, not letting your own citizens google about what kind of yacht central party members own, or how many homes they own, or maybe actually being able to learn the truth about the Tiananmen Square massacre sure is very "friendly and responsible" on the CCP's part! Obviously their mission is just and honourable... [sarcasm]
It just goes to prove: All you need is money and you can take on the government.
I agree with Google's stance here but unless they get together with Microsoft (and Yahoo) this really is a lost cause. Refusing to censor search results will not have any positive effect for Chinese citizens but could severely damage Google's reputation in one of the most populous countries in the world.
Microsoft. I'm looking at you. Don't let google go this alone. Don't sit by and watch thinking about the profits you could make once Google bails.
velozzity said: "Isn't Google dealing with the same country that massacred college students for bucking their system"
Well, if we see tanks rolling through the Google lobby, with Eric standing in their path, we'll have a decent idea of what's going on.
(black humour only, no offense intended by the Tiananmen reference)
I support Google. Someone needs to stand up to this Bull**** or the Chinese govt will become overly dominating.
I truly won't be surprised if China begins mass invasions in the future, with the support of its largely misinformed and brainwashed citizens. Its population is kept misinformed precisely by this censorship.
Google - Just pull out.
Just pull out, thats the friendly thing to do
Danger Will Robinson Danger, Google is to America has North Korea is to China, Danger Will Robinson Danger
Irresponsible? Seriously? China is irresponsible in so many ways that I don't know where to start. Wait , I do , the censorship in the first place was irresponsible of China , as Google is supposed to be a world wide search engine anyway.
Well they need to do what ive been doin for years when you find yourself in a "slippery situation"; When in doubt,pull out!
China: Stay out of my way, or you'll pay. Listen to what I say.
Google: Yeah, why don't I go eat some hay. I can make things out of clay, or lay by the bay, I just may. Whaddya say?
I don't get it, you go to a foreign country to do business, but you refuse to not abide by their laws?
As much as I don't agree with their government, their laws must be respected. Google is just pulling a publicity stunt to gain popularity on non-communist countries, that's all.
I don't get it, you go to a foreign country to do business, but you refuse to not abide by their laws?
As much as I don't agree with their government, their laws must be respected. Google is just pulling a publicity stunt to gain popularity on non-communist countries, that's all.
China: Stay out of my way, or you'll pay. Listen to what I say.Google: Yeah, why don't I go eat some hay. I can make things out of clay, or lay by the bay, I just may. Whaddya say?
I wish I could give you + 20 for that reference.
Google gets what they no sympathy from me for what happens to them...
You cant disobey law just because it is not a fair or just one...
Here in america i cant be a drug dealer... i dont think anti drug laws are right ( not gonna go into why) but i cant just do or sell drugs and think i can get away with it
I really don't care what any countries laws are in this case. The fact of the matter is, it's simply two entities attempting to leverage their power to push their own ideology. I seriously doubt Google is going to win, but this could lead to an in road in the future. It would be better if more companies that don't agree with China (AKA most companies in the world) took the stand Google did. As powerful as they seem, and as large as their numbers are, they still depend on the rest of the World, specifically American Companies. They all pull out, and China is going to have to reevaluate, and will probably go the way of Russia.
but i cant just do or sell drugs and think i can get away with it
That's why there aren't any people selling or doing drugs sucessfullly, Oh wait.
Screw China, block their IPs all together coming to the US. Seriously, we should ban all trade and communication with China, there are other sources. Our economy would probably improve if we forced some products to be made in the US instead of China slave labor. We'd have to pay more as consumers, but let's put our citizens back to work, not the Chinese.
As far as I know, every country in the world forces Google to censor their search results. Imagine if google provided results with child porn in them. The US government would freak out too. China just has the bar of freedom of expression moved a lot lower. Not saying I agree with them, but I can understand where they are coming from. If I was a dictator, I'd certainly want to stop my people from learning about all the bad shit I do.
Anyone thinking Google is doing this as a humanitarian effort is mistaken. Google sees the potential of 1.3 billion users (far in the future once net becomes more available to the outland areas.)They know they missed the boat on itunes and iphone, they're not going to make that mistake again.
Lol you dont know the first thing about selling drugs... its not if it is when you get caught... you do it long enough you will get popped
Just pack up and leave..
lol china steals software, movies, etc from the united states all the time... why should google take their shit
so, google need to comply with this censorship rule because they establish an office in china and offer local google for china domain (http://www.google.cn/)?
So, if they pack and leave and let the Chinese citizens use their global google.com, still Google need to abide this requirement? If yes, what about other search engines available on the Net?
Jum, they will watch real porn and realize that nature was the most cruel with them... 8=D
Google need to just get its operation out of china and ban all http requests from china. chinese market is no friendly market. They steal and clone all technologies and claim as their own.
its sad to see so much non sense and stupid people in here. Don't you guys get it? its IMPOSSIBLE to FREE EVERYTHING RIGHT AWAY! the country will just collapse. Look at THE Russians. If you change things too quickly.... its chaos. Sooner or later chinese will learn the truth. But for now, their just building their country. AND THEY ARE DOING IT FUCKING WELL SO FAR! so STFU A BIT....
......and the consequences will be on you."
o' man...sound like they mean business..
its high time you bail out Google...
Screw China, block their IPs all together coming to the US. Seriously, we should ban all trade and communication with China, there are other sources. Our economy would probably improve if we forced some products to be made in the US instead of China slave labor. We'd have to pay more as consumers, but let's put our citizens back to work, not the Chinese.
Wow, do you do standup?
its sad to see so much non sense and stupid people in here. Don't you guys get it? its IMPOSSIBLE to FREE EVERYTHING RIGHT AWAY! the country will just collapse. Look at THE Russians. If you change things too quickly.... its chaos. Sooner or later chinese will learn the truth. But for now, their just building their country. AND THEY ARE DOING IT FUCKING WELL SO FAR! so STFU A BIT....
You certainly do have a point, even though I dislike admitting it.
While I do believe democracy is overrated, and I do realize that even in our 'high and mighty' countries censorship certainly exists (banned books list in schools anyone? and I though these were places of education), this is a fight I'd rather see Google win.
Our own governments have committed many acts which we and they are shamed by, but they must not be forgotten for nothing. I know the net is still a chaotic playground, but that's the way I enjoy it. If I want to visit 4chan.org, I will damn well visit 4chan.org! If my government is responsible for the torture of innocents, I damn well better know!
I may not be a patriotic man, but I will fight for what I believe in if anyone tries to take it away.