Blu-ray 3D Specification Finalized, is PS3 Ready

3D has definitely come a long way since the days of cheesy red and blue filtered glasses. But I wouldn't go so far as to proclaim this as the new standard for movies and TV. While it is an interesting enhancement, I don't think it is revolutionary or even evolutionary. In order for that to be the case, the viewing experience would have to be more like being in a holodeck.

Most likely you'll have to wear "glasses" of some kind. Sucks for me and a lot of people out there who already wear prescription glasses to see. Hope they design some that are comfortable for me to wear, unlike the Movie Theater 3D Glasses.

If glasses are not needed though, then great! Let's go for it, 3D all the way!

Uber l33t,

Now all I have to do is trade in my circa 1989 27" RCA TV, and my BETA-MAX for some upgraded video quality.

Maybe I could even trade in my collection of Laser Discs for some newer titles

Anyone interested in swapping?

Most likely lcd shutter glasses... which work great but require a very fast refresh screen to look really smooth. I think my 60hz projector will end up looking a little jerky, but it'll be interesting to experiment with.

I hope the damn things are bluetooth... I don't want a cord running all the way to my PS3 (which is 15 feet away).

Is there even a 3D standard that doesn't require glasses? They would need to project the image individually into each eye. If it takes off, someone will come up with a clip-on or old guy top half of your face covered glasses to meet the niche (maybe even you if you have the gumption to get a business going).

Is there a requirement on the TV's end for 3D support? Do you need a certain refresh rate?

The 3D glasses might be needed if they implant something into your eyes or brain. *scary* =:-()

You will probably need a special TV which supports 120Hz input.

That would give you 60Hz for each eye.

This is what you need to use NVidia "3D" vision tech.

Note that this is not the same as a 120Hz (or 240Hz) TV -- that is not going to help out as those TVs just take the input signal (60Hz I believe) and interpolate (invent) frames.

There is a 22" Asus monitor I think which can do this, and there are probably a few TVs but just any old 120Hz TV won't cut it.

*correction* I meant to say 'might not be needed' in the above comment

What Jellico said.

60Hz is the minimum for flicker free viewing. 24P for movies or 30P for broadcasts is the minimum for smooth action.

Movies are captured in 24P right? So 60Hz should give you a few frames extra to work with shouldn't it?

I still have to say that blu-ray is one big greedbag ripoff.do the work and you will find out on the net how much it costs to manufacture these compared to DVD.Then ask yourself why they charge us $10 and more per disc over DVD cost.

And as far as this whole 3D goes you will be wearing glasses to enjoy it and that is if it is even enjoyable which for me it won't since I already have to wear glasses and since I am 54 and have already tried #d with glasses.hell they have had this since i was a child in the 1960's.

gorehound your probably one of the weirdos who thinks everything is a ripoff. everything hd is expensive because of the equipment. what? you think there just making movies in hollywood with an el cheapo HD camcorder?

if you don't like it stick with your 13" CRT and VCR

I hope current Blu Ray players offer firmware updates. I already bought a HDDVD then bought a Blu ray when HD failed then had to buy another blu ray that fully suported HD Audio. I can't see buying any more players.

As long as any 3D content requires special glasses of any kind I will be against 3D viewing. One of the things that is nice about watching a movie (either in the theater OR at home) is that you can lean back, relax and WATCH it. You don't have to worry about glasses, or refresh rates, or anything like that.

K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple Stupid) is the golden rule here, and having to use glasses (that you have to wear, and make sure you don't lose, etc, etc) for any sort of 3D experiance just isn't following that rule. I would REALLY like 3D to take off, but WITHOUT the glasses please.

P.S. I don't wear glasses 24/7.

The 3D glasses will always be needed so long as the image is projected iin 2D on a flat surface (i.e. your monitor's panel), and the 3D effect is an illusion by the process of fooling your eyes (brain) into thinking that it's seeing something three dimensional. The only way to get beyond the glasses is to look at holographics. That's the only real 3D technology I would praise. This is just another reason to get noobs to buy new stuff and waste their hard earned money. Cheers!

How long did it take for the old black and white 3D movies with the red and green glasses to fade away? That's how long it will take for this new 3D nonsense to fade away.

Of course if you bought one of the earlier stand alone Blu Ray players, your SOL

I heard that Avatar for the PS3 will support this tech and will be the first 3D game (what ever 3D this is...)

Yeah you need a special TV for this effect and only a few companies make them like LG and one other company (slipped my mind)

Its 120Hz but not all 120Hz sets will do it.

I know you need to sit almost directly in front of the set for the effect to work, but you will not need special glasses

I guess this is good news for PS23 owners who buy one of those TV's, as for everyone else hmmm at least they will not have to suffer too much from it as I can't imagine too many movies will be using this for a while (unless they can convert some of those Disney movies like "Up" to this new tech)

mad. finally, 1080p is becoming normal, and not just for the 'enthusiast' class

Sorry to burst the 'glasses are req' theory but they are absolutely NOT. A good camera with head tracking software (ala project natal type thing) can provide a 3d effect. Not quite the same granted but still 3d.

"I'm against it, because I don't want it". Just don't buy it then.
No wonder the country's gone to hell..

lol No way Im gonna change and upgrade my new home cinema cause of this which will be useless and pointless for another good few years.

The only way you can get the special effects of objects comming right up to your face or moving across the room is with 3D glasses. Yes, you can make Tv alittle more glamorous by implementing 3d into the TV but your always going to need the glasses to have the mind blowing expierance of a true 3D movie. I see they have created afew imax 3D films but i think Hollywood could do alot better. Avitar should be a 3D glasses movie and it's not. I am still waiting on that 3D terminator movie i was promised back in the early to mid 90's, Where did it go???? They could really go over the top with it, but nobody seems to want to take the financial risk involved, somebody has to step up to the plate sooner or later.

Eventually we will have devices that will do 3d without need for glasses. It will be in our lifetimes. This is not that though, and with needs for special sets, special players, and special glasses it will never achieve wide penetration in the home sector.

Who wants to put on glasses just to watch a movie? Anyway, I saw Up and some other movie in 3d at the cinema, I wasn't impressed.

I wouldn't mind having all modern games in 3D. Don't care as much for movies though.

Be nice if 120-240Hz LCD's and GPU's that support those frequncies were more common (AMD has a lack of support on anything over 60Hz, and 120Hz LCD's are quite expensive).
You'd think CrossFire/SLI would be perfect for 3D though... 60FPS for the left eye, 60FPS for the right eye, each eye gets an independant card.

Gimmick, i have 3D now we all do its called real life. If its viewed on a flat surface its a altered state of visuals/graphics, like a trip on shrooms or LSD. Spare me the gimmicks and the resuling headaches.

I have an IZ3D monitor and i find it hard to play games in 2d now

I am going to assume that they use polarized glasses to make it 3D. Shutter glasses require you to provide power to them and they seem to be very expensive. I've seen the polarized 3D at Disney. It was amazing. I don't think I'd be into this if the glasses are $200+ shutter glasses. I'd give it about 3-5 years before adapting the technology. I know Disney is going to support 3D movies for home viewing using this standard. That's why they have no 3D movies for the home but many of their movies are 3D at the theater.

There are even technologies that don't require you to wear anything and are not based in holography either. I've seen a couple of displays demoing some 3D-graphics in a local computer shop and in close inspection they looked like having an 'interference grill' in front of them. Now it comes to mind another technique I saw some years ago that is based on a 'prism cover' that consists of many vertical prism-stripes that are placed on top of an LCD screen in alignment with the screens dots, so you vertically interlace your 2 images and the prisms deliver each vertical scan-line to the respective eye. It had narrow viewing angles though...

This kind of stuff has always sucked for me, since I don't have 3d vision to begin with. My eyes don't align right, so I basically am left with a dominant eye. I've even had surgery to correct it, but it didn't help restoring the 3d or depth perception. I keep seeing movie producers talk about making movies entirely in 3d, which worries me. Traditionally if I watch a 3d movie, even with the glasses on, I still see both of the stereoscopic images, since I basically am just seeing out of one eye. So while I think this technology is really cool, I hope it is not exclusive.