Australian Gov May Force ISPs to Track Customers

Sounds like Big Brother is getting more intrusive.

In the year 2030, Australian government embraces communism.

That's horrifying.

+1 that is what i feel like is going to happen, and i don't mean to be racist or any thing but if we did do that, we might as well call us china 2 or something as there is already enough mings over here.

If you're not using encryption and anonymity-providing services like Freenet and Tor, then assume you can and will be monitored.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Hell, even Facism seems possible with these crazy bastards.

Ah crap, as if we don't already have enough crap with our internet!
Some of the slowest net in the world, we get Capped for going over bandwidth quotas, our internet might be massively censored AND NOW our privacy is invaded because some idiot in a chair says so!

Also, we don't even have a 18+ for games, so some games don't even make it here, the law's and rules we abide by are stupid..

Well i mean some of the laws and rules, why isn't there a "Edit" button in "Tom's Guide"? shouldn't it be under "Submit my comment"?

It's called "proofreading" you should try it

Advance Ausfailia Fair

Aussie Aussie Aussie!!!!
OI OI OI!!!
its good to be Australian

Anyone who does internet banking or buying anything... well the ISP's will keep that info too the government can get a hold of... nice... It's also a great way of figuring out who in society in the slightest way does not go along with government policies, morals, ethics, etc... usually dictated buy the most a'retentive folks... This truly is a society now where everyone is presumed guilty until reluctantly, eventually after serving time in jail, proven innocent.

This is what happens when you vote in a labor led hippie taskforce with no real experience at government and lacking the brains to pick it up on the fly.
In the space of two years we have gone from 10's of billions in surplus to tens of billions in bloody debt.
Global financial crisis my arse, Australia barely felt a tremble from it. (not saying other countries havnt)
We blew all that money and for what?
Now the experts are going to tax the living hell out of the mining sector. The one sector that kept us afloat and protected through this crisis.
The scary thing is not the tax itself but the way they are attempting to push it through in its present form.
Financial backing for resource projects and expansions dried up over night due to the uncertainty of the new tax regime. They havnt even implemented it but they killed all expansion overnight regardless.

The home insulation fiasco, the education revolution?

Now internet censorship looks likely and they are also going to track my browsing habits? Now I have to waste my time setting up a proxie to thwart the f%^kwits.

In all honesty I really do believe the only reason Rudd got in was because people were bored with Howard, he overstayed his welcome in a way I suppose. While I didnt agree with everything Howard did and I would suppose no one could agree with a leader all the time he knew where the line of democracy was drawn and didnt overstep it.

Oh and Rudd? Wheres my superfast broadband and the laptops for my schoolkids?

Rudd's gotta go, NOW,

end of political rant

As if you're perfect.

HTTPS

Central planning... one of the tenants of socialism. Total government control... the ultimate aim of socialist style governments. Has no one in Australia read "the road to serfdom"?

And so it begins...

This comes right after our Communications Minister slammed Google for committing the "single greatest breach in the history of privacy" by collecting data from unsecured WiFi on street view photo runs. In the same story he said "What we want to ensure now is that we get access to the information that's been collected." Well he's making good on that.

In case you didn't notice the link in my previous post (font colour doesn't change much for links): http://www.theaustralian.com.au/au [...] 5876377711

Wow... really.
My ISP doesn't even complain when I triple my bandwidth cap...

So, should every web page be HTTPS now?

I GOT IT:

China has the Great Firewall
Aussies will have the Great Barrier Reeefer

That is actually what some people are suggesting as a solution to this whole issue..... HTTPS on every single website so that 'da feds' cannot see what you are doing.

The more you tighten your grip, the more systems will slip through your fingers

Ah, good old liberal nanny state mentality. Australia has been heading down to liberal Socialism faster than Great Britain. The people in the USA have woke up and will be voting our Socialists/Marxists hacks out of DC this November and in 2012.

Actually, no. They are heading down the road towards fascism and conservatism, not socialism/liberalism.

Agreed. The posters constantly blabbing about communism and socialism on this site have no fricking clue what they are talking about. Too much Fox News I suppose...

Australia is turning into a nanny state, but it's got nothing to do with proper socialism.

Please don't confuse liberalism with conservativism. I know that it's popular for oh-so-many conservatives to use the "liberal" label as a sticker for "anything that disagrees with me," but truth be told, fascism is the exclusive purvue of the extreme right-wing. Limits on personal freedoms? Check. "Big Brother" watching you? Check. Pressing for a government enforced "Morality?" Check. Blaming problems on specific ethnic/religious groups like immigrants, Muslims, Jews, or Catholics? Check.

You should learn the basic differences between the modern left/right; the left favors government intervention and heavy regulation in the economy, but more personal freedoms. The right favors deregulation of businesses and the economy, but when it comes to personal freedoms, George W. Bush said it succinctly Back in 1999: "There ought to be limits to freedom."

Now, of course, Communism isn't any better than Fascism; Stalin systematically killed off twice as many innocent civilians as Hitler did in his entire Holocaust, comitted great crimes against both science (Trofim Lysenko sending the innocent civilians of Russia back to the stone age) and nature, (such as draining and eliminating the Aral sea, wiping out a fishing economy as big as the Gulf of Mexico) and engaged in constant activity to purge society of all "inconvenient proof" of all these evils. However, these two kinds of evil are distinct, different, and warning signs for any who would think of straying too far from the political center of sanity.



If you honestly think that Obama is socialist (rather than simply "not conservative enough") I've also got news for you... The much-feared "Obamacare" bill? Hardly socialist; In spite of having a strong Democratic majority, the Senate has a decent Conservative lean to it thanks to people like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu. In the end, the bill lacks almost anything conservatives complained about; no "rationing," no government-run system, in fact, almost nothing incredibly overbearing other than that laughable "mandate" that, because it doesn't actually list it as a criminal offense, isn't even really enforceable."

Similarly, he's balked at reversing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," as given his status as Commander-In-Chief, he doesn't NEED to go through Congress to eliminate it; Harry Trumand eliminated racial segregation in the military in a penstroke back in 1948 with his signature of Executive Order 9981.

Additionally, there's that whole issue with BP, at which point virtually everyone, even Republicans, (except for Tea Partiers like Rand Paul, who sit in the tiny, super-vocal minority) arguing that he's not being hard enough on the corporation. From this, one could readily argue that Obama is hardly "socialist," and just as the problem of being "Bush Light;" conservative, but not enough to satisfy Republicans, and certainly far too much to the right to satisfy the left, and many moderates, too.

In spite of this, given as presidential re-election bids are almost always dictated by the current economy, if the recovery continues, Obama's actually a lock for re-election in 2012, even against a stronger opponent such as MN's Tim Pawlenty or GA's Newt Gingrich. And if it's someone like Sarah Palin? He'll win in a landslide. Better luck in 2016.

Nanny states will be the wave of the future I fear. I don't know if even the US constitution can prevent it.

The only shinning light is those that understand computers and the interenet will always be one step ahead of those who don't (law makers).

Fascism has nothing to do with being right- or left- wing. It's to do with being Authoritarian or Libertarian.

Actually, Facisism IS right wing. The wing system (if you want to be simplistic) involves far left (socialism), and far right (facisism). For a system to work it needs to be somewhere in between. Socialism is not communism, though communism is a branch of socialism (sort of how the clan is a branch of christianity). Neither wing is right or wrong, but their application can be. To be socialist is just as it sounds, the government is set up for a social standpoint, it provides for the poor, but has the disadvantage of doing so by taking from the rich. Fascism on the other hand, is a situation where one governing body has overall power with no system of challanges or democracy of any kind. Castro is a typical facsist in that he is/was the ultimate ruler for Cuba with no system of opposition, however, some would argue that his heart was in the right place (for Cuba) and was loved by his people. Is Castro evil, I don't know, but t is an example of a dictator (fascist) seeming to work for a country and it's people.

I must also add that ultimately, most governments that are far left or right are generally totally corrupt and only become interested in their own power for the sake of their own people, they don't even see it happening!