Leaked Sega Doc Revisited: Obsidian Verifies?
Obsidian fires back in regards to a comment in the leaked Sega doc, possibly verifying its legitimacy.
Did developer Obsidian Entertainment inadvertently confirm the top-secret Sega document revealed just yesterday? That's the general consensus one day later, as Obsidian's marketing manager Matthew Rorie fired back at Sony in regards to remarks made about Alpha Protocol within the document. While Rorie could have blown off the harsh statements and denied the whole document, he decided instead to respond, and even acknowledged the Sony "gentleman" who evaluated the game in question.
"Michael Foster, product evaluator, said [Alpha Protocol] felt barely RPG," reads the Sega document. "Initial level too challenging for players. 'Mass Effect felt more RPG.' Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team." Obviously, the comment doesn't shine favorably for Obsidian and the upcoming Xbox 360/PlayStation 3/Games for Windows RPG, and apparently it wasn't meant to be seen by the public eye.
Naturally, Rorie defended the game, saying that without knowing how much of AP Foster actually evaluated, it's hard to judge what was meant by the comments. "Suffice to say that Alpha Protocol is going to tickle your RPG taste buds when it's released," he said. He also added that the game is 100-percent RPG, allowing players to earn experience points, level up, choose skill progression, and other RPG-themed elements. But the real news here is not the actual exchange in comments, but that Foster undeniably verified the Sega document by acknowledging the source evaluator.
Yesterday the notes revealed that Sony plans to release a PlayStation 2 emulator for the PlayStation 3 console, and load up the PlayStation Network with the previous generation's classic titles. It was also revealed that Dreamcast games are coming to Sony's network as well, and Sony will even get exclusive Dreamcast games. If the document holds true--as Obsidian's Rorie may have validated--PlayStation 3 owners will finally embrace backwards compatibility even if its in the form of a software emulator... again.
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No backwards compatibility is the reason I haven't bought a PS3.
Um ok? I don't see what the big deal about this is. Who cares what some evaluator said? And it doesn't exactly confirm anything. I guess the big deal is a PS2 emulator? That's a bit too little too late.
No backwards compatibility is the reason I haven't bought a PS3.
i assume you already bought a xbox 360? and i assume money is also an issue because you never bought the 60gb ps3 w/ bc... please!
If you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. Seriously, just get a 2nd hand one for less than the price of a new release game.
If you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. Seriously, just get a 2nd hand one for less than the price of a new release game.
Not viable due to another set of controllers, A/V wiring to TV,and another damn Input on the remote of the TV and Audio Receive to mess with. Currently have PS2 and Wii, Dishnetwork, DVD Recorder, and OTA Antenna hooked up. Using all power outlets in the area. Want to trade the PS2 kit/DVD player-recorder for PS3 with PS2 emu.
i assume you already bought a xbox 360? and i assume money is also an issue because you never bought the 60gb ps3 w/ bc... please!
If you want to play ps2 games buy a ps2. Seriously, just get a 2nd hand one for less than the price of a new release game.
I'm in the same boat as b1kshad0w, I ain't spending anymore on a PS2 just to play God of War 1, God of War 2, and finishing my GT4 save. Even a second hand PS2 isn't really worth the cash and effort to find one because I'd need to sell it again later to recoup the cost.
No backwards compatibility is the reason I haven't bought a PS3.
your a douche bag
I'm in the same boat as b1kshad0w, I ain't spending anymore on a PS2 just to play God of War 1, God of War 2, and finishing my GT4 save. Even a second hand PS2 isn't really worth the cash and effort to find one because I'd need to sell it again later to recoup the cost.
why did you trade/sell your PS2 if you want to play these games? your sorry excuse is a joke
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So... Is SONY going to actually make gamers REBUY their PS2 games for replay on their PS3? This is ridiculous-- First they stripped the hardware supported backward compatibility out of the unit and the fankids exclaimed: "oh! it's not even a necessary feature!" Now they're potentially going to be CHARGING for a--likely inferior--software based emulation solution and make consumers PAY AGAIN for games they might already own?? And here come the fankids, screaming: "What a great idea! SONY are geniuses!!"
@ reichscythe
As a PS3 owner I can say that neither me or any of my friends give a rip about backwards compatibility. Eveyone says that they are gonna play all of their old games but they never do. Why play Socom or Killzone, when the new PS3 versions play the same or better and make the old ones look like poo
They also potentially WON'T be CHARGING, so I don't see what your all worked up about
I'm so happy I bought a launch 20GB (yea yea but I dont need the wifi or card reader) and simply upgraded to a 320GB hard drive.
Sounds like a high tech soap opera.
So, Exerybody whinnig about buying a ps2 to play your old games. What happened to the one you had?? Mine sits under a PS3! ;-)
So... Is SONY going to actually make gamers REBUY their PS2 games for replay on their PS3? This is ridiculous-- First they stripped the hardware supported backward compatibility out of the unit and the fankids exclaimed: "oh! it's not even a necessary feature!" Now they're potentially going to be CHARGING for a--likely inferior--software based emulation solution and make consumers PAY AGAIN for games they might already own?? And here come the fankids, screaming: "What a great idea! SONY are geniuses!!"
Maybe I missed something, but it seems to me that you would just use the original PS2 disc OR download from interweb :-)
I just want Microsoft to put Sony out of their misery and buy them out completely.
If not Microsoft PLEASE GOD let Nintendo buy them out. It would vindicate all of the mistakes Nintendo made when they didn't take ownership of the PS1 when it was theirs to begin with....
(For all the people who didn't know, Sony wouldn't be in this market if Nintendo didn't scrap its plans for a CD based video game console. Sony in turn had a complete working unit and re-branded it as the PS1)
Oh man, this reminds me of how everyone kept complaining because their Super Famicom wouldn't play their original Famicom games. It's why I didn't buy a Sega Genesis, it wouldn't play my Master Drive games.
/sarcasm
Seriously fellas, I mean seriously?
cscott_it - The Sega Genesis actually did have backward compatibility with the older Master System console. You needed an adapter which sat on top of the Genesis Console.
To date, the Genesis was one of the most versatile consoles ever made.
Think of it, it used adapters to change its performance, compatibles, and media types.
I'm in the same boat as b1kshad0w, I ain't spending anymore on a PS2 just to play God of War 1, God of War 2, and finishing my GT4 save. Even a second hand PS2 isn't really worth the cash and effort to find one because I'd need to sell it again later to recoup the cost.
waaaaaaaaaaaaah!! i am too lazy to setup another console with it's own set of controllers and peripherals. why would you need to sell it if your complaining that the PS3 has no BC? because your going to be one of the ones complaining about it and then get bored of it after a month after they give it to you finally.
it is losers like you why BC is still a big issue with the PS3.
I'm interested in BC on the PS3 but it isn't necessary, the upscaler used on the launch 60GB i used to have made the games look worse in my opinion. If they can improve the upscaler using a software emulator it might be worth implementing. Until then I can just use my PC to play my PS2 games, it may not be perfect but I can make most games look way better than they originally did and upscale way better than the 60GB PS3.
a PS3 owner I can say that neither me or any of my friends give a rip about backwards compatibility. Eveyone says that they are gonna play all of their old games but they never do. Why play Socom or Killzone, when the new PS3 versions play the same or better and make the old ones look like poo
They also potentially WON'T be CHARGING, so I don't see what your all worked up about
Point 1 - If you or your friends don't care, then I'm not addressing you or any of your friends, am I? I'm clearly seeking an amen from people who think offering back-compatibility as a value feature, then cheating consumers out of it, then putting it back in for an additional cost is more than a bit sleazy. Further, I opened the post as a question... if they're not charging for the compatibility download, that's cool... but if they are, it's a bloody rip-off, ESPECIALLY given all the early marketing hype...
Point 2 - You don't speak for everyone, so don't pretend you do: You want to talk about you and your friends? Well, I happen to know PLENTY of gamers--including myself--who love to dust off the old games for a brief go-round from time to time. If people weren't interested in playing old games, why're X-com, Half-Life and Marvel vs Capcom 2, selling like hotcakes? If people, in general, didn't care about old games why would SONY even be making these legacy titles available now?? And, since you bring it up, my buddy brought a PS3 SPECIFICALLY for the backwards compatibility: since he had a massive library of PS2 titles, many of which he was actively playing. He sold his PS2 because his PS3 was one of the early models with built-in hardware BC. When his first PS3 broke down (red laser died), they sent him a new one (under warranty) but, guess what? The newer models don't have PS2 BC. So, now everyone's tossin', "Oh, well just get a new PS2, they're cheap" Eff all that...He purchased a PS3 that initially included that feature...
Point 3 - "you're" not "your"... and, I'm not worked up that they're offering old games for purchase to people who haven't played them yet, or who've sold/lost/destroyed their old game discs, I'm irritated about SONY potentially limiting the backward compatibility to the versions of titles currently proposed for the PSN and charging a consumer for them, even if said customer already has a working copy of the games--which is a legitimate possibility; or PSN charging PS3 owners for the ability to play any PS2 game with a for-pay emulation scheme, that should already be included with the box...
cscott_it - The Sega Genesis actually did have backward compatibility with the older Master System console. You needed an adapter which sat on top of the Genesis Console. To date, the Genesis was one of the most versatile consoles ever made.Think of it, it used adapters to change its performance, compatibles, and media types.
That's neat, I did not know that. +1 sir
That's neat, I did not know that. +1 sir
You are absolutely correct. Read wikipedia artical http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Drive under the section: Master System compatibility. I am most fond of Genesis and then the NES for all time good memories. Genesis console was the first time that home video games were equal to the arcade.