Source: Tom's Guide US | Keywords: Police, Chief, iPhone, Coward, GPS | Themes: Software, Smartphones
D.C. police chief Cathy Lanier said that iPhone users are cowards.
Washington D.C. Police Chief Cathy Lanier has gotten a little annoyed with owners of the iPhone. In fact, she basically calls them cowards... at least, those using a special app that pinpoints the location of cameras. Lanier took another jab at users with global positioning devices that also lock on to the cameras, saying that those who rely on the technology--whether it's the GP devices or the iPhone--will eventually get caught.
Unfortunately, efforts to outlaw the software would prove to be too difficult. "With the Internet and all the new technology, it's almost impossible to stop the flow of information," she told The Washington Examiner.
Joe Scott, founder and CEO of PhantomAlert, said that nine out of ten police departments across the country actually support his software despite Lanier's reservations. PhantomAlert supposedly mimics radar detectors by alerting drivers of nearby enforcement speed traps via GPS devices.
"If police come against us, it's going to make them look like they are only [after] revenue" from the camera-generated citations, he said.
There was no word on whether Lanier uses an iPhone during her personal time.
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Who does she think she's kidding, it's all about the Benjamins baby! It reminds me of all the police departments up here in NY saying "We don't ticket for revenue", and "We don't have quota's"... LOL... they make me giggle.
If enough people use tech to avoid their automated road tax then they'll be forced to scuttle the whole idea since they pay private companies to put those things in and maintain them.
I love it.
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GPS enabled red light radar detectors have been out for years. Let's see, there's the Escort 9500ix and the Beltronic GX65 for starters
Flamebait?
Yeah I've had the camera alerts on my GPS for years. Little late to the party Lanier.
I know 2 people who quit the police force after getting tired of being glorified ticket writers. They don't actually have "quotas" per se, they are called "goals", at least here in CO spgs.
Wow, it takes some guts, or utter stupidity, to admit you're trying to inflict a Police state and control the free-flow of information. What does she think this is, Communist Russia, China, Cuba, North Korea, etc.. etc..?
I used to live in a city with traffic cameras. As soon as the state and county tried to get their cut of the revenue, the city turned them all off. Its about one thing and one thing only, money. If any politician or elected official tries to tell you otherwise, vote them out of office.
I consider myself to be a good member of the community, I defiantly pay my share of taxes and yes, while I want our streets to be safe, I can't stand the mentality of the people who enforce traffic laws.
Sometimes it seems every little infraction is treated as a major traffic offence. I'm talking about 5 - 10 mph over the speed limit, or a rolling yield instead of (that annoying) stop at the stop sign. If you get caught you are 99% of the time busted, no warnings, just pay up and get your points.
Thank goodness this is America baby not some communist dictatorship, so I can still get away with minor infractions (most of the time), otherwise if I'm honest I would have lost my privilege to drive a long time ago.
If police want to improve their standing with the community they should stop kicking everyone's butt for every little thing. Which as we all know would be a loss in revenue and thus will never happen.
I have never been a fan of the iPhone but all I can say is - nice!
While I understand why radar detectors are cool to have every once in a while, I've just never really understood their users' complete disregard for the law. I've never been given a ticket I didn't REALLY deserve and if anything I'd have to guess it's because I'm not a jackass when they get to the window of my car.
I've been pulled over for speeding, an illegal u-turn, running red lights, every little stupid thing imaginable, and the only ticket that ever got through was doing 60 in a 45 [which, unless you have the mentality of a redneck fifteen year old, is understandable]. I do my racing and driving for pleasure where I know noone else is getting hurt: at the track or on vacant old roads.
Anyone that tells you otherwise is just trashy.
Article title FAIL
You never got pulled over for matching the speed of traffic Ramar? Just going 10 over on the highway where the speed is set unreasonably low (55mph limit on a major interstate 3 lane, where everyone else is driving like 75, but the cop pulls you over because its the most convenient). How about getting pulled over every single day coming home from work for 10 consecutive days in a row because it just so happens to be when bars are letting out. Or, having a cop follow you 40 miles just to say your tail light is out, in his own frustration, when it clearly is NOT, so he can right you a 30 dollar ticket.
Everyone has their own unique experience with the police... and maybe for you, you think its been fair. But, personally, I wish they would stop fucking harassing people. I don't believe that using the police to generate revenue is an ethical thing to do... and I'm surprised we all put up with it.
@fulle
I completely agree with you that generating revenue through tickets is terrible and sometimes cops can be total dicks. I was 17 when pulled over for the illegal u-turn and didn't have my license on me. He wrote me a ticket for both, but I got lucky because the judge laughed it off.
My point was more about the disregard for road law, and why it is the way it is, that is common in most people [that I've met, at least] that use radar detection. It really doesn't bother me at all that they might be monitoring my speed around a corner where accidents are prone to happen or sending me a ticket for running a red light. It's just incredibly selfish, childish or paranoia-induced to think otherwise.
People are cowards for using technology in order to avoid police technology? How about that cop quits being a hypocrite.
bad cop bad cop *do do do do do* bad cop bad cop
Too bad the iphone doesn't make me breakfast
Dunno how it is in the states but here in aus our camera's are sign posted with billboard size warnings so if you need this tech then you're just proving you're an idiot.
"With the Internet and all the new technology, it's almost impossible to stop the flow of information..."
Good. That's the way it's supposed to be.
Anyone who goes over the limit more than 10km should be quadruple fined.
I know 2 people who quit the police force after getting tired of being glorified ticket writers. They don't actually have "quotas" per se, they are called "goals", at least here in CO spgs.
That must be specific to that agency, because the agency I used to work for could care less if you wrote tickets or not. And that being said, our agency had a really bad reputation for "writing tickets". Yet the majority of our officers did not bother pulling over very many cars in a day. In fact, other officers used to give me a hard time because I did write so many tickets.
People need to stop making excuses for getting caught while violating the law. If you're speeding, you risk getting a ticket. If you get one, the only person to blame is yourself. So stop being a child and take responsibility for your actions.
Kevin Parrish,
You've accused the D.C. Police Chief of stating that "iPhone users" are "cowards". Do you have an actual quote that supports this? If so, you failed to put it into your article. Kind of hard, from a journalistic approach, to make such an accusation with nothing to quote in support of your statements. Not to mention, your article title would suggest that ALL iPhone users are cowards according to this Police Chief. Which I'm guessing is NOT what you intended to say.
It's a good thing Tomshardware does NOT get national media attention. You guys could get yourself into trouble over stuff you fail to clarify or put into your articles.
You never got pulled over for matching the speed of traffic Ramar? Just going 10 over on the highway where the speed is set unreasonably low (55mph limit on a major interstate 3 lane, where everyone else is driving like 75, but the cop pulls you over because its the most convenient). How about getting pulled over every single day coming home from work for 10 consecutive days in a row because it just so happens to be when bars are letting out. Or, having a cop follow you 40 miles just to say your tail light is out, in his own frustration, when it clearly is NOT, so he can right you a 30 dollar ticket.Everyone has their own unique experience with the police... and maybe for you, you think its been fair. But, personally, I wish they would stop fucking harassing people. I don't believe that using the police to generate revenue is an ethical thing to do... and I'm surprised we all put up with it.
LOL Sounds like you have a behavioral problem when it comes to driving. Pulled over 10 days in a row? Maybe you should check your abilities to learn?
In all sincerity though. You can't justify your lack of respect for the law because other people aren't either. Just because everyone else goes 20mph over the limit, doesn't mean you're entitled to do so. The same goes for every other law out there.
Cathy don't cry because you got cameras instead of cops. Next time hire a cop because they can do more than write speeding tickets.
@ jerreece
Follow the link to the original Washington Examiner article.
Police chief denounces 'cowardly' iPhone users monitoring speed traps
The police chief calls using this software a "cowardly tactic" or, in other words, a tactic for cowards.
Perhaps you should read (and comprehend) the article before going off the wall.
I love it, maybe I will get an iPhone. The shock troop, Uh I mean cop is just mad because the public is tired of police state tactics and is successfully fighting back.
Now if only you were on a network fast enough to detect the trap BEFORE you hit it, that'd be great....
non-point tuesday!
of coarse iphone users are cowards look at the type of people who get it or the whole flock of sheep who stand in line at stores the night a new one gets released. i bet the Darwin award winning girl who fell down the manhole in NYC was texting on an Iphone.
Hmm, Iphone users are cowards? I don't know about that. I know some can be pretentious, arrogant and downright annoying. But cowards? Come on? We must remember that the cop is from D.C....nothing good ever comes from there. Besides, why make a fuss about these stupid cameras anyway? They do more harm than good. Instead of convincing me to slow down whenever I see a red light about to change I find myself gunning it in order to not get zapped by the camera. If they are going to install the stupid cameras the least they can do is make sure they work every single time and to make them work so that they provide the drivers enough time to brake. I have found myself braking and endined up in crosswalk/intersection. Red light cameras are a scam. They don't deter accidents. What they do do is generate revenue for lazy police departments who spend most of their time at donut shops.
So many anti-police comments yet no one dare to go on the street and start a riot. The Tibetan did it, the Iranian and even the French did it yet all you cowardly iPhone users are still behind your computer hiding from the police. I’d say the police are going a good job keeping creeps like iPhone users out where the sun shines.
@fulleI completely agree with you that generating revenue through tickets is terrible
isn't that basically the only reason speeding tickets are still around? to generate revenue? I'm not talking about running stop signs or red lights - just plain speeding. of course I am sure speed limits affect safety but safety was also the main argument for keeping speed limits that was pretty much full proof against people disagreeing with speed limits. if I remember right, speed limits were originally about conserving fuel right? and were supposed to be disbanded after the WWII but too many cities/states were seeing the green. and I believe in 1973 they were nationalized for the same reason - conserving fuel. still though in my opinion speeding tickets are 95% about the revenue they generate in said town or city. they could easily cite people doing 150mph+ in 5 o'clock traffic for wreckless driving instead. you don't need a speed limit for that. but then it's still up to the cop's disgression and if he had a bad day or didn't get any the night before. this is a very debatable subject.
So, people who use iPhones are cowards? Well I never did like Apple or their products too much, but cowards? Listen up there chief!
If that is the case then then police are cowards for using technology to catch people. In my way of thinking if the police use radar guns then I should be able to use the radar detector. I mean by the time that thing goes off the cop already has read your speed anyway so why should they care if I got a detector or not? If they use cameras then I should be allowed to know where those cameras are located. They are set in a public setting are they not so they should not be hidden nor secret. Basically I have heard too many from law enforcement try and argue "If your not doing anything wrong then why do need to know (or need to use) it or allow me to search your car." Well I say a "If your not doing anything wrong why should you care about my radar detector, scanner, or gps camera locator."
Dunno how it is in the states but here in aus our camera's are sign posted with billboard size warnings so if you need this tech then you're just proving you're an idiot.
Wow! That's nice. I cannot speak for all states or the cities or counties, but here I have not seen one posted sign or billboard or what have you telling you about them. Maybe some do but not in the area I live. If there were then yes I would full on agree with you.
Dunno how it is in the states but here in aus our camera's are sign posted with billboard size warnings so if you need this tech then you're just proving you're an idiot.
in my city here in the states there is markers/signs but they definitely are not billboard size. more like a little bigger than an actual speed limit or road marker signs (you know the ones that tell you which road/highway you're on like highway 1) if I had to guess which I do! =) definitely easy enough to miss if you don't know the intersection you're coming up on. of course I should clarify I'm speaking of red light camera's.
signs look sorta like this -
http://www.jaunted.com/files/6193/RedLightCam.jpg
or like
http://wedemandavote.com/images/70 [...] d-ohio.jpg
(though I have never seen one that close to an intersection myself - they are usually more so placed like this last picture - way in front of the intersection so by the time you get to the light if you missed the sign you "missed" it)
http://media2.tbo.com/mediamanager [...] 40x640.jpg