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Sony Could Start Banning Hacked, Jailbroken PS3s

- By - Source : Tom's Guide US

Sony may start banning 'jailbroken' consoles from the PlayStation Network.

Last week saw Sony's PlayStation 3 console join the Xbox 360 and the Wii in the land of cracked consoles with the availability of a PS3 USB hacking tool that allows owners to crack their consoles and run burned games and homebrew software. However, gamers planning on cracking their console should think carefully about whether or not they're willing to give up the PSN in exchange for pirated games and homebrew software.

A posting on PS3 Hacks claims that Sony could track who's logging on to the PSN with a jailbroken console and ban users accordingly.

PS3 Hacks:

"Backup manager game ID (LAUN-12345) could be logged/recorded by Sony when logged into PSN (when online). This would obviously allow Sony to see who would be using the illegal PSjb/clone and we could very well see ban waves similar to the Xbox 360. Sony does currently ban PSN/consoles that results in the 8002A227 error code.

As people start getting their PSjb in the next few week, we highly advise that you do not log into PSN while using the backup manager, which means no playing online."

Sony has yet to comment on whether or not it will be banning modded consoles. We'll keep you posted and update when we know more.

(via Gizmodo)

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miicah 08/25/2010 8:17 AM
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Would it be possible to play your "backed-up" games offline and then put legit ones in to play online?

minooch 08/25/2010 8:46 AM
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I'm Shocked! NOT! This is kinda obvious

Anonymous 08/25/2010 8:53 AM
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Just buy 2 PS3´s then tape them together that way you will have the best of both worlds. Then change the name to PSalmost4

geckoar 08/25/2010 8:55 AM
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if it is just like the xbox 360 than nope, as soon as its hacked you sign in and the ip is logged so you get a ban sooner or later.

Blessedman 08/25/2010 9:37 AM
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Why they would try to ban by IP and not MAC?

Travis Beane 08/25/2010 10:15 AM
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Would they ban a hacked PS3 from all net access? If I remember correctly, you still need your PSN account to run F@H.

Would love to see 100,000 people banned, and then everyone just set their PS3 to 24/7 folding. ^_^

mkrijt 08/25/2010 10:23 AM
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Shine Dk :
Just buy 2 PS3´s then tape them together that way you will have the best of both worlds. Then change the name to PSalmost4



you're wrong, that would make the PS6...

kartu 08/25/2010 10:32 AM
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Quote :Sony Could


And this is a piece of news, right.

kartu 08/25/2010 10:34 AM
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Blessedman :
Why they would try to ban by IP and not MAC?


MAC is only visible on Ethernet level, i.e. in local network.
Not to mention, you could change it.

fyasko 08/25/2010 11:13 AM
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kartu :
MAC is only visible on Ethernet level, i.e. in local network.Not to mention, you could change it.



one can change an IP but not a hexi-decimal MAC address. the MAC address is embedded in the hardware. though it is possible to flash the chip with a new MAC address it is far more difficult than changing a software based IP address. pwned!

frogman7 08/25/2010 11:21 AM
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If they start banning PS3's I'm sure it'll be through some built individual identifier that every PS3 has. The same thing existed in the original Xbox (EEPROM) and it exists in the Xbox360 (Keyvault). I believe even the PS2 had it but I'm not 100%. Anyways even a MAC address would be fake able if you routed it through your pc and had software to inject the outgoing packets with a new MAC.

teodoreh 08/25/2010 11:37 AM
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Great way to bring gamers back to the PC business.
Screw game consoles!

Anonymous 08/25/2010 11:57 AM
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g00ey 08/25/2010 12:22 PM
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fyasko :
one can change an IP but not a hexi-decimal MAC address. the MAC address is embedded in the hardware. though it is possible to flash the chip with a new MAC address it is far more difficult than changing a software based IP address. pwned!


Not true, it is possible with some (if not most) ethernet cards to change the MAC address on the software level. I even have a custom MAC address set up on my router. You can change it under the "Advanced" tab when configuring the NIC in Windows. The property to look for usually is "MAC Address" or "Network Address".

Ciuy 08/25/2010 12:44 PM
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guanyu210379 08/25/2010 12:52 PM
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This dongle is proven only usefull for piracy.
If you are using and wanna keep using legitimate copies, you don't have even to bother buying the USB dongle.

Darkk 08/25/2010 12:55 PM
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It's a good chance that Sony keeps a record of the PS3 serial ID and MAC address so if either gets changed the unit gets flagged.

Either way you still get screwed if you forget to turn off the jailbroken app before going online. Easiest is to block PS3's internet access on the router.

hoofhearted 08/25/2010 1:54 PM
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Wasn't there some legislation that allowed jailbreaking recently? Would that apply here?

rhino13 08/25/2010 2:23 PM
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So it's cracked without Linux. See there. Now give us Linux support back!

insider3 08/25/2010 2:30 PM
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Surprised? I wonder how many people thought that Sony wasn't going to do anything about it.

nforce4max 08/25/2010 3:10 PM
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Typical of the robber barons at Sony. Ban hammer on the resourceful newt gamers. This is why pc gaming is more flexible.

ssddx 08/25/2010 3:10 PM
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hoofhearted :
Wasn't there some legislation that allowed jailbreaking recently? Would that apply here?



One would think. They arent limiting your ability to jailbreak your PS3, they are taking away access to PSN so you cannot play copied games.

1pp1k10k4m1 08/25/2010 3:18 PM
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fyasko :
one can change an IP but not a hexi-decimal MAC address. the MAC address is embedded in the hardware. though it is possible to flash the chip with a new MAC address it is far more difficult than changing a software based IP address. pwned!



I'm not sure why you wrote pwned, but what you wrote isn't exactly accurate. It takes about 4 seconds using freeware to spoof a MAC on a windows box. Most people who have consumer level internet don't have a static IP, they have dynamic IP, every comcast, warner, and verizon customer, unless paying extra is in this situation. That IP is subject to change and therefore is not a reliable banning method. Actually, mine changes within a week sometimes.

Spoofing a MAC on a PS3 is simply a matter of not having software developed to do it. Bc PS3 runs under a different CPU architecture, someone willing would simply need to develop software for the ps3. Something akin to Technitium MAC Address Changer, then the need for trying to flash the ps3 with another MAC is moot, you can just spoof one. The PS3 simply lacks a software to do this at the moment. But that probably wouldn't work anyway bc I hope Sony is smarter than that.

Chances are as Darkk said, when you register for PSN, Sony more than likely records both your Serial # and MAC and uses that unique combination to identify your console. I'm sure someone will try it though, so I guess we'll find out.

1pp1k10k4m1 08/25/2010 3:22 PM
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nforce4max :
Typical of the robber barons at Sony. Ban hammer on the resourceful newt gamers. This is why pc gaming is more flexible.



I don't know if its resourcefulness they are banning. I think its pirated (and potentially altered) games. It would inevitably be argued that someone with a pirated game could have used a hex editor on it and changed the functionality of his/her game, thereby allowing them unfair advantage (extra health, invincibility, unlimited clip size and ammo, etc.). This probably has something to do with the piracy issue as well, but seems to be more of a statement from Sony that says something like "you broke the terms and conditions (a legal contract) of PSN...bye."

chick0n 08/25/2010 4:03 PM
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dark_lord69 08/25/2010 4:15 PM
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Well that wouldn't be an issue for me I don't play many games online. But I'm still not gonna buy the USB hack thingie anyways... IT'S $150!!

pabeader 08/25/2010 4:20 PM
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i have a dog. need i say more? need backups!!

chick0n 08/25/2010 4:21 PM
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150 bux is one thing (I thought it cost more like 170?)

Another thing is, this might be fixable by Sony, just ban all programs running on USB port ? or only run signed ones?

next thing I know if Sony really patch this thing, a lot of cheap fags going to cry like a little girl like OMG SONY I AM NOT BUYING UR PS3.

Don't buy it. Bunch of free loaders.

zaznet 08/25/2010 4:49 PM
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ssddx :
One would think. They arent limiting your ability to jailbreak your PS3, they are taking away access to PSN so you cannot play copied games.



The jailbreak exceptions in the DMCA were for phones to allow people to use unauthorized software (not pirated/copied games) and to change carriers while keeping their phone. It is likely these exceptions will find their way into the console market as each of the 3 big vendors lock users into their own gaming networks and exclusive titles but so far the game market hasn't been touched by the recent decision from the Library of Congress.

g00ey 08/25/2010 5:40 PM
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But changing the MAC address doesn't necessarily mean that there are nefarious intentions behind it.

For example, at one occasion my internet connection stopped working. One part of the troubleshooting procedure was to change the MAC address on the router which actually brought the connection back up again.

I also don't see why the MAC address matters on the PS if it is behind a router. Only the router's MAC address is visible from the outside, or am I missing something here? I simply cannot see how it is possible to see the MAC address of a computer that is behind a router.