Microsoft to Google: Stay Out Of Our Browser!
Source: Tom's Guide US | Keywords: Microsoft, Google, Chrome, Internet, Explorer | Themes: The Internet, Software, Digital Entertainment, Business
Microsoft is advising against using Chrome Frame within Internet Explorer... naturally.
On Tuesday, Google announced the release of Chrome Frame, an engine that can be used within Internet Explorer 6, IE7, and IE8 that allows Chrome to render Web pages rather than Microsoft's IE engine; Chrome Frame also executes Google JavaScript programs. To enable Chrome Frame within Internet Explorer, surfers simply must install a plug-in while Web developers must insert a line of code into their pages that speaks directly with Chrome Frame upon each visit.
Naturally, Microsoft didn't take too kindly with the idea, telling consumers that they are better off upgrading Internet Explorer to the latest version rather than inserting Chrome Frame into its software. "With Internet Explorer 8, we made significant advancements and updates to make the browser safer for our customers," Microsoft said. "Given the security issues with plug-ins in general and Google Chrome in particular, Google Chrome Frame running as a plug-in has doubled the attach area for malware and malicious scripts. This is not a risk we would recommend our friends and families take."
Mozilla's Dion Almaer snickered at the comment on his Twitter page, claiming that consumers should "uninstall Silverlight now," and that Microsoft is frightened by the security issues some plug-ins can bring. Amy Barzdukas, general manager for Internet Explorer, sang a more positive tune and told CNET that it was indeed a security issue with Microsoft, calling the process "a browser within a browser." She said that running Chrome Frame interferes with private browsing and clear-browser-history features found in the new Internet Explorer 8.
"That is not made clear," Barzdukas told CNET. "That is a trade-off that customers would really want to make with eyes wide open." She also added that consumers using Internet Explorer 6 need to dump the old browser and download the latest release, saying that installing another add-on is not an ideal option. "It just compounds your problem," she said.
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MS please make a better browser.
Thank You!
well, if you want to use Chrome... just use Chrome! Don't need a plug-in for that...
I can see their point, too: I like to keep my choices as...pure as possible, without interference. If one likes Firefox one can use pure Firefox and so on.. No need to mix and match plugins that are not really needed, especially if it affects the security of the browser of choice. I hardly use IE, mostly Firefox for it's great add-on library.
Why are you trying to make Microsoft look like the bad guy here? 99% of computer users are technologically stupid. They will install the Google add-on, have problems, then call Microsoft for support. This costs Microsoft a lot of money and loses them a lot of business when the same idiot that installed the add-on bashes Microsoft to all their friends. I'm not calling Microsoft perfect... but come on already.
Enough browsers out there. No need to use one that looks like a pokemon ball.
MS, "to all our employees we would advise against city tap water, and only using MS bottled water as we cannot guarantee the compatibility with your biological hardware and software"... Seems to me that they are just trying to scare uninformed people from using any alternative besides their solution, even though their solution is a solution of boric acid and bile. By the way, the above quote is not a real quote from MS, it is an analogy for the kind of response they had to Chrome Frame running in IE. Just in case any MS lawyers are reading this... lol
jeeze, it seems most of the previous people commenting no little about the nature of ChromeFrame... it was never meant for the home user. it was made for business/corporate users that are stuck with IE6 because of IT policy or a lack of resources to get IE upgraded (such is the case in offices where there's only 1 or 2 IT staff and over 1000 PCs). in such cases, ChromeFrame can act as an interim solution to allow those users to access pages and applets that are compliant with HTML5 and just need a decent rendering engine in general. that microsoft would recommend users upgrade to IE8 when this would cause even more issues with in-house activeX applications and standards compliant internet webpages is telling of their overall close sightedness...
the bitch is back
I just loaded Chrome Frame in my virtual machines IE5 and it works awesome. I can now see through websites and into the vortex that makes up the enchanted world between code and ours. After learning the natives language I became illuminated to a culture without war and poverty. They taught me how to bend time and energy with thought, they also taught me quantum mathematics which makes cooking much easier now. In the end, what Google Chrome Frame brings to us all, is another oppurtunity to change that part of ourselves that is rooted in the lie called reality.
Or we could realize that this is really not that big of a deal...
that's not a cool move on google's part.
I do like a lot of what Microsoft does, and I like all the interface goodies in IE (color coded grouped tabs!), but they really do need to work on the rendering engine a lot more. Granted it is a lot better than it was, but there is still quite a ways to go.
Horse shit!!! The .NET Framework 3.5 installs an add-in to Firefox that adds all kinds of the IE vulnerabilities to it. This is why I use Linux.
lol, Horse shit it is
Horse shit!!! The .NET Framework 3.5 installs an add-in to Firefox that adds all kinds of the IE vulnerabilities to it. This is why I use Linux.
Bullshit!
There wasn't a single vulnerability report because of Firefox ClickOnce addon.
You use linux because you're a freetard maybe, and can't afford a real OS? like Windows 7 or OS X?
There's no way in hell you use Linux over and non existent vulnerability in Firefox because of a MS addon. That's definitely a lame reason.
Why are you trying to make Microsoft look like the bad guy here? 99% of computer users are technologically stupid. They will install the Google add-on, have problems, then call Microsoft for support.
Only for retail versions of Windows. Most users get Windows on a new PC so the OEM is responsible for support.
There isn't this much whining about IE Tab on Firefox.
I guess it's like IEtabs for Firefox.
hmm... well I see both sides of the argument. But at the same time... If you have ever been on a machine running IE6 still and the admins wont upgrade it, then Chrome Frame is a great solution for the user.
Did everybody miss the discussion when Tom's first reported Chrome frame? Has everybody forgotten the main focus behind why Chrome frame could be a good thing? Or maybe all of those big corporate companies who won't upgrade from IE6 (reasons previously discussed and irrelevant here) are just invisible. Yeah there are some potential issues but there is a group of people for whom the benefits would outweigh the drawbacks.
Cryogenic: Who uses Linux just because it's free? Linux is for the technically inclined, if anything. People who buy retail PCs get Windows for "free", since nobody asks you if you want it installed on a retail PC, real men build their own PC and install Linux.
OSX is a real OS? Really? I thought it was just an unusually bad inbred BSD/Linux distro.
Horse shit!!! The .NET Framework 3.5 installs an add-in to Firefox that adds all kinds of the IE vulnerabilities to it. This is why I use Linux.
ClickOnce has nothing to do with IE, it's part of .NET. Wikipedia could have told you that.
Bullshit! There wasn't a single vulnerability report because of Firefox ClickOnce addon.You use linux because you're a freetard maybe, and can't afford a real OS? like Windows 7 or OS X? There's no way in hell you use Linux over and non existent vulnerability in Firefox because of a MS addon. That's definitely a lame reason.
While I agree that it's not much of a reason to switch to Linux, your understanding of Linux (and OSX from the look of it) is below the level where you should actually post about it.
I'm not confident in Google to create a securer or better browser.
I'm with MS there!
Though,
I'm with FireFox! No Google there! :-D
Why are people still using IE, when there is Firefox?
Only morons use IE anyway. They get what they deserve. I have used Firefox since it's inception, and Netscape before that. No plans to change unless somebody builds a better mouse trap. So far no one has.
Only morons use IE anyway. They get what they deserve. I have used Firefox since it's inception, and Netscape before that. No plans to change unless somebody builds a better mouse trap. So far no one has.
Why doesn't anyone understand, MS isn't stopping people using Google Chrome and if people want to use that browser then fine, same as they could use Firefox.
What they take exception to is someone hijacking their software, if MS did it instead of Google the world would be up in arms, so a little perspective here, after all, it's not like ANY of these browsers are commercial software.
hmm... well I see both sides of the argument. But at the same time... If you have ever been on a machine running IE6 still and the admins wont upgrade it, then Chrome Frame is a great solution for the user.
I work for a company that does IT support for large private businesses and lots of very serious Government contracts. We have IE6 for web and have just about everything switched off, no shockwave, no flash, we aren't upgrading to IE7 or IE8 and we are absolutely barred from using Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc etc etc. Even the upgrade path from Adobe Reader 8 to 9 had massive repercussions and weeks of problems.
Just because your home PC may work fine, when you roll out even a minor change across a few thousand machines you cannot afford an incompatability. Bolting on yet more junk to the browser is just asking for trouble. If you don't beleive me, try asking someone who works for IBM what browser is pushed out on all staff machines.
Aside from the security issues, IE 6 was the last good browser MS made. What I did like about it was that you could shove all the toolbars onto one line at the the top, freeing up screenspace. And, it was fairly fast on Win 2000 Pro. I only used it though when I ran across a web site that required it. Thankfully those days are behind us.
I work for a company that does IT support for large private businesses and lots of very serious Government contracts. We have IE6 for web and have just about everything switched off, no shockwave, no flash, we aren't upgrading to IE7 or IE8 and we are absolutely barred from using Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc etc etc. Even the upgrade path from Adobe Reader 8 to 9 had massive repercussions and weeks of problems.Just because your home PC may work fine, when you roll out even a minor change across a few thousand machines you cannot afford an incompatability. Bolting on yet more junk to the browser is just asking for trouble. If you don't beleive me, try asking someone who works for IBM what browser is pushed out on all staff machines.
Exactly. Just like back_by_demand said. And I am using IE6 to type this and browse the web. And yes, I do work in an IT Dept, in an IBM equivalent sized company or perhaps even bigger.
I work for a company that does IT support for large private businesses and lots of very serious Government contracts. We have IE6 for web and have just about everything switched off, no shockwave, no flash, we aren't upgrading to IE7 or IE8 and we are absolutely barred from using Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera, etc etc etc. Even the upgrade path from Adobe Reader 8 to 9 had massive repercussions and weeks of problems.Just because your home PC may work fine, when you roll out even a minor change across a few thousand machines you cannot afford an incompatability. Bolting on yet more junk to the browser is just asking for trouble. If you don't beleive me, try asking someone who works for IBM what browser is pushed out on all staff machines.
the machines can be upgraded to IE8. or Firefox. or Chrome. Or Mozilla. Please get ur facts right.
the machines can be upgraded to IE8. or Firefox. or Chrome. Or Mozilla. Please get ur facts right.
Please learn about business.
The only thing bad about IE is it's resource hogging nature. If microsoft fixes that, I'll gladly switch back to it from firefox.
I'd love to upgrade all the machines on this NT4 domain to IE 7, heck even IE 8, but most are 433Mghz 128MB machines from 1998-1999 that are running Win2k. Can't upgrade to IE 7 on Win2k, so I use Mozilla on most of the network.
MS has no love for their old software, which is understandable and acceptable, not their fault the CEO will not allow me a budget to upgrade.