3D Televisions Finally Getting a Glasses Standard
One more standard to throw into the mix to make an "official" standard.
You and your friend may be lucky enough to have new 3D television sets, but unless they're from the same manufacturer, there's a chance that you both won't be able to use your 3D glasses interchangeably.
That will all change soon, thanks to Panasonic, Samsung, Sony and X6D Limited (XPAND 3D) and their newly announced intent to collaborate on the development on a new technology standard for consumer 3D active glasses, under the dull-but-appropriately name, "Full HD 3D Glasses Initiative."
With this new agreement, the companies intend to work together on the development and licensing of radio frequency (RF) system 3D active glasses technology, including RF system protocols between consumer 3D active glasses and 3D displays such as televisions, personal computers, projectors and 3D theaters with XPAND active shutter glasses.
The standardization will also include multiple types of infrared (IR) system protocols between 3D active glasses and 3D displays, ranging from the protocols jointly developed by Panasonic and XPAND 3D, to the proprietary protocols of Samsung and Sony, respectively.
Universal glasses with the new IR/RF protocols will be made available in 2012, and are targeted to be backward compatible with 2011 3D active TVs.
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Regardless, for me 3D TV have a ways to go before I'll be replacing my plain 'ol vanilla 2D LED Samsung. The 3D picture is incredible, but the rechargeable, heavy glasses are not IMO. ...Nor is the headache that unspectacled friends get when there aren't enough glasses to go around.
While I am still not convinced that 3D is here to stay, at least they are finally doing what needed to be done for a while; an actual standard. If it proves successful then maybe 3D will become the standard for all TV's.
Yay! Glasses! More crap hardware, more annoying stuff to wear, more headaches, and perfect for all of us that already have a pair on our noses.
This feels so 1995.... Back then I had a pair of shutter glasses for my videocard, it was annoying back then and it won't be less annoying now.
Stop this 3D TV crap madness and give us some proper "3D" by adding thin and high resolution screens onto some nice looking glasses. The technology already exists so what's the problem? Hell, even Nintendo has shown it can send high definition video wirelessly so that's not a problem. Apple has shown we can have highdef LCD screens, and add motion sensors to it and we're done. Then a more proper "3D" can be viewed by us that can't watch the image-shift 3D we have on the TVs.
All we need next is a set of gravity generators so we can feel the G-forces when we crash our brand new car into a brick wall and break our spines by sitting in our sofas.
Todays 3D with shutter glasses and junk are a joke. Just a way for TV manufacturers to force us to buy new TVs with old technology.
While I am still not convinced that 3D is here to stay, at least they are finally doing what needed to be done for a while; an actual standard. If it proves successful then maybe 3D will become the standard for all TV's.
I believe wide angle glassesless 3D TV is the real game changer and I am not getting 3D TV until then. So I believe more effort should be devoted to that.
@mrpijey. That is virtual reality and the image is still 2D. You don't get depth perception in those device.
What about that glasses-less ? ? why not just it the standard ?
this is just stupid and makes me hope the "3d" TV fad chokes, proably just want to have something else that requires consumers pay more money.
also i'l likely enver get a 3d tv for teh simpel fact i ahve poor eye sight namely one of my eyes is horrible compared to the other and that makes it impossible for me to use this tech , with or with out glasses i'll always see two images because my right eye sees so drastically worse than my left eye. Same case for my aunt too (she has a glass eye so technically only has one eye ) and these tech tricks always require two good eyes.
While I am still not convinced that 3D is here to stay, at least they are finally doing what needed to be done for a while; an actual standard. If it proves successful then maybe 3D will become the standard for all TV's.
This will never haoppen and i hope to hell this isn't the industries goal , read my previoius post 3d tech only works for people with two good eyes any one with one eye or one eye that has much worse sight than the other , this technology is useless. though i'm guessing the 3d is switchable off and on ? if not it needs to be,
but stil my biggest reason for hoping this doesn't happen is pricing companies are gouging tv prices up for 3d support quite rediculously, and i'd hate them to stop offering alternatives for those of us that don't want to pay out the a-- for features we'll never use.
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@mrpijey. That is virtual reality and the image is still 2D. You don't get depth perception in those device.
With a separate image going to each eye, 3D (depth perception) is a given. Head tracking would be impossible, but depth is a no-brainer.
As long as they force me to put glasses on top of glasses, I'll say no to the 3D effect.
Besides, there are no TV and very few quality movies in 3D. Some people actually like to see more than just dumb Hollywood blockbusters. You know, like art films...
I would not wear a device like this. There are far too many negative possibilities.
At the movies, 3D is just a scam to get you to pay 50% more.
In a year or two there will be 3D TVs that do NOT require glasses for an amazing natural 3D effect. People are wasting their time and money on first-gen technology. Have fun watching a 3D movie by yourself, sitting in the exact right position. Or spend ridiculous cash for extra pairs of shutter glasses, all which have to be charged via USB.
I have personally tried several 3D TV's, I have great eyesight, and it started to get uncomfortable after the first 20 mins. Its basically tricking your eyes into seeing depth on the screen, so after a while this becomes almost like a workout for your eyes. Brutes.
how about a standard to finally get rid of 3D TV;s
With a separate image going to each eye, 3D (depth perception) is a given. Head tracking would be impossible, but depth is a no-brainer.
My bad on 3D. Should have update from reading before comment. But apparently, Sony is working on head tracking. http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news [...] _Games.php
Nevertheless, for TV, I still prefer glassesless, but head tracking for gaming.
I'm hoping that there will be a split in production where TV models of 3d and 2d can tun parallel with each other, because frankly, I don't want to switch to 3d.
"Expert confirmed that wearing 3D glasses near the head caused cancer."
For most movies 3d is poorly implemented (there are exceptions), but for games, it is amazing and enriching.
if you have not tried 3d gaming, it would behoove you to find someone with the setup and witness it for yourself.
I really dont understand why people are so opposed to shutter glasses, that is the best way to get the 3d effect without requiring a level viewing angle, as in parallax screens. My evo 3d works well with the parallax, but if you tilt your head slightly while viewing, it is disorienting, rough on your eyes, and it takes a sec to readjust.
After a week or so using the shutter glasses your eyes adjust to the effect far more quickly and the fatigue from extended play diminishes.
I'm not sure what technology I would prefer between glassesless and glasses with 3D. With glasses it is possible for much more accurate depth perception, but of course glasses are annoying to wear. The technology that doesn't require glasses are limited on how many depths they can show you, the glasses tech doesn't have any limits.
I am surprised these companies don't wanna sue each other regarding patents claiming to have the first 3D HDTV
I hope they are better than some of the demos I have seen in stores. My eyes are not as good as they used to be so the glasses do not work well for me. Hurts my eyes trying to adjust.
not getting or even consider "3D TV" at least not for the next decade.
if "3D TV" by any chance has survived by then, I might considered then.
3D is painful to watch after too long and I refuse to jump on the bandwagon as long as they make me wear a stupid set of glasses. I'll wait till they perfect holograms and then count me in
What if the marketing hacks told the manufacturers to offer 3D and the general public didn't give a crap! Well that is the reality.
The economy can't sustain this fad technology.
They offered it years ago in the movies and it flopped, it's reared it's ugly head once again and will once again go away.
The have demonstrated "glassless" 3D but it doesn't look good at all. And no perfection looks forthcoming either.
3D will go away in about 5 years.
As long as they force me to put glasses on top of glasses, I'll say no to the 3D effect.Besides, there are no TV and very few quality movies in 3D. Some people actually like to see more than just dumb Hollywood blockbusters. You know, like art films...
And by 'art films' he means porn.
For most movies 3d is poorly implemented (there are exceptions), but for games, it is amazing and enriching.if you have not tried 3d gaming, it would behoove you to find someone with the setup and witness it for yourself.I really dont understand why people are so opposed to shutter glasses, that is the best way to get the 3d effect without requiring a level viewing angle, as in parallax screens. My evo 3d works well with the parallax, but if you tilt your head slightly while viewing, it is disorienting, rough on your eyes, and it takes a sec to readjust.After a week or so using the shutter glasses your eyes adjust to the effect far more quickly and the fatigue from extended play diminishes.
And there is a lot of potential for the technology to improve and with higher refresh rates the 'shutter effect' that people don't like will go away.
That's why I have the LG passive glasses. They are already standard. Active shudder should die. Way too expensive and all LED backlight can go passive.
I'd love to see a glasses free version!
Perhaps a one eye glass version...
Anyone shunning the tech after watching movies needs to try 3D vision with 120hz monitor. There difference is huge. It may not be perfect, but it's hugely better.
At 24hz per eye, it is rough on the eyes, but at 60hz per eye, it's smooth. Even dropping it to 100hz, or 50hz per eye, you see a lot of flickering and I understand what people are talking about, but that goes away with 120hz monitors.
i just wonder who buy this stuff and why... now even when going to movies, need to check times when they don't show it in 3D
i just wonder who buy this stuff and why... now even when going to movies, need to check times when they don't show it in 3D
As soon as 3D TVs have polarized screens to use passive, cheap glasses like at movie theaters, I'll consider buying one. I own a good size collection of 3D movies since the added cost of the 3D disc was usually on sale for only a buck or two more than the 2D-only set.
i just wonder who buy this stuff and why... now even when going to movies, need to check times when they don't show it in 3D
apparently "tbq" is one of the suc...er...i mean people who buys this 3D crap