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Say What? DRM Scheme Encourages Sharing

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A new DRM scheme proposed by Intertrust Technologies actually promotes sharing.

Forbes Online features an article detailing a new DRM scheme that actually encourages sharing. Talal Shamoon, chief executive of Intertrust Technologies in Sunnyvale, California, has dumped years of research and funds into a "standard" called Marlin that supposedly protects patents while refraining from doing what other DRM methods have achieved: offending consumers.

Rather than locking protecting content to specific devices (aka PCs, iPods, etc), Marlin instead links content to individuals or groups called "domains." This way, consumers can share the content with friends and family; the purchased content follows the owner no matter where they are. The drawback is that the media must play on Marlin-enabled devices, but only if approved by the content owner first.

Forbes provides a great example: a mom in Madrid could download a music video, play it on her phone and then share copies so that her son could play it on his PlayStation and her daughter on a personal computer. Marlin achieves this by expressing digital rights in a map-like data structure. To determine if content can be played, Marlin takes a virtual trip from the service that activated the content toward the user's cluster of authorized devices. The content plays if the path is valid.

Sony is currently using Marlin to deliver downloadable movies and television shows on the PlayStation Network. Japan already requires the use of Marlin with Internet-enabled televisions, and both Nokia and Samsung are just two out of a dozen clients signed up to incorporate Intertrust's DRM scheme.

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matt87_50 08/21/2009 1:49 AM
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Firehead2k 08/21/2009 2:11 AM
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DRM is still DRM, not matter how attractive they think they can make it look.
When I buy something I want to use it where I want, when I want. Asking for permission if I can use it somewhere else is not one of the things I'd be willing to pay for.

daship 08/21/2009 2:47 AM
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D R M
Dare me to Rip it Myself.

Major7up 08/21/2009 3:09 AM
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DRM won't be any good unless it is transparent to the end user. We want to use our media how we choose without having to go through any sort of auth process. This may be a small step in the right direction but I still don't like it.

Dekasav 08/21/2009 3:17 AM
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Meh.... to all the people that still don't like this idea: Remeber this, DRM is NOT going entirely away. Even companies that take it off will continue looking for a solution, and this is a step in the right direction.

I just wonder how this will go for other forms of media, especially games. I mean, if I buy a game and want to let my friend try it out, or install it on their computer to show it to them, etc. will this let me do that? Can I also share something virtually (As if I buy something through Steam/Direct2Drive/digital distribution, can I loan it to someone the same way I can a normal disk?)

One thing I see as a problem: what stops large groups from saying everyone is their friend, and creating a huge domain where many people only have to buy things once. Say me and all my 400 facebook buddies share all our music videos. If 50 of us would have downloaded/bought the same video, now we only buy it once, what stops this? (I'm not really talking about close friends sharing, really, I'm talking about hundreds/thousands sharing).

gekko668 08/21/2009 4:37 AM
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Drm is still DRM. It's just a wolf disguise in sheep skins.

r0x0r 08/21/2009 6:25 AM
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I'll give it a week before someone cracks it.

anamaniac 08/21/2009 7:27 AM
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daship :
D R MDare me to Rip it Myself.



Someone of us just like the feel of rebeling for the hell of it.
Plain and simple, we're told we can't do something, and so we do it.

Rip away, my friends.

Nick_C 08/21/2009 8:40 AM
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All the more reason to continue to purchase lossless master discs (CDs), rip and archive then transcode to the latest greatest lossy codec of choice which is compatible with your player.

simonphill 08/21/2009 9:13 AM
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I think it would be better described as.
"Attempts to discourages sharing, but attempts at a weaker level than most DRM."

DRM = attempt to prevent me sharing with group.
This = attempt to prevent me sharing with anyone.
No DRM = no attempt to prevent me sharing.

In no way does the technology itself (the DRM method) encourage sharing. The distributors may encourage sharing of these files, but it's not the technology doing it, it's the distributor.

Nick_C 08/21/2009 9:30 AM
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Just realised that this would appear to have the potential to include a kill switch - thus denying *anyone* access to the content should the "system" decide to.

ssddx 08/21/2009 1:22 PM
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I am sure there will be limitations on just how much you can share content. Just be glad that there is an option to share unlike most DRM. To all who dislike DRM: Perhaps if people would clean up their act we wouldn't have DRM. I am sure that the last thing artists/programmers want is an angry customer. That said, they like pirating/monetary losses even less. Kind of like kicking yourself in the ass people...

gorehound 08/21/2009 1:47 PM
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DRM IS BS !!!!

Irefuse to buy any music ever form any large corporate labels/artists and definately will never ever buy anything from anyone who signs with the RIAA

leafblower29 08/21/2009 1:52 PM
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I'll just rip MP3's from CD's using Windows Media Player.

winglerw28 08/21/2009 2:39 PM
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Something tells me there are going to be a lot of families that are big... like 10,000 people or so. They may or may not be related, who knows. All I know is that they all use bittorrent.

hellwig 08/21/2009 4:15 PM
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The biggest problem with DRM is end-of-life. I bought my first CD over 15 years ago, and it still plays in my CD player. Anyone who bought songs from Yahoo Music only a couple years ago already lost the ability to play those songs (even if they did get a refund).

Simple fact of the matter is, not only do the companies decide where and how you can play the music, they decide how long you own it too. If Apple shut-down its servers tomorrow, billions of still-DRM protected songs will cease to play. Look at Amazon, they just pulled two books from thousands of Kindles with no warning what so ever. It can and will happen again, and because of legally-questionable EULA's, the user is powerless to do anything other than stop patronizing companies that continue to support and develop these greedy DRM schemes.

kelfen 08/21/2009 4:25 PM
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sharing is legal don't they teach us since we were little sharing is caring O.o!

eyemaster 08/21/2009 4:26 PM
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So there are many companies already using this? That means it's not new tech. Why are we just hearing about this now???

dainsane1 08/21/2009 4:31 PM
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good concept but... ya no no no

i can not go along with a scheme that requires any software to run in the background on any of my devices. much less anything that is going to talk back to someone and then fail when the company goes belly up and all content is then locked out.

virtualban 08/21/2009 8:15 PM
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I don't like DRM even if it is so little invasive as having to install x software who will work forever never requiring internet connection and be ok with system reinstalls. I like all my videos/audios/images to be open for me to use whatever software that is being developed by whoever.
And yes, I rip my DVDs and CDs and just shelve them afterwards. Standard AVI and MP3 that plays on all my players, none of which requires me to convert it to any specific format beforehand. Since I can't tell the difference between the original DVD/AudioCD and the ripped version (enough bitrate provided) I would even go as far as to rather handle and backup the ripped copies than make exact copies of the originals.

Anonymous 08/21/2009 10:36 PM
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This is still crap. It only plays on a list of authorized devices.

The problem with DRM is it treats the LEGAL user who PAID for the content like a criminal.

DRM is barely a road bump to a pirate, they strip or crack the drm then use the content hassle free. All DRM is cracked very very shortly after its released, sometimes only hours after its released. After that the pirates dont have to worry about the dumb restrictions.

All the while the legal user who paid for it is screwed over time and time again.

Release good product, stop treating legal users like criminals and people will buy your product if they like it. This isn't rocket science.

randoMIZER 08/22/2009 3:20 AM
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Nick_C :
All the more reason to continue to purchase lossless master discs (CDs), rip and archive then transcode to the latest greatest lossy codec of choice which is compatible with your player.


CDs often have DRM now. I saw one that required you to install a program that allowed you to listen to the music on your own PC.

r0x0r 08/22/2009 5:34 AM
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randomizer :
CDs often have DRM now. I saw one that required you to install a program that allowed you to listen to the music on your own PC.



If I remember correctly that was the Sony rootkit fiasco from a few years back.

Shadow703793 08/22/2009 7:23 PM
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WHY can't others just adopt a method like Steam?

Shadow703793 08/22/2009 7:24 PM
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Rab1d-BDGR :
No, the article title is nearly correct:DRM (in any form) encourages file sharing (files over bittorrent).There I fixed it for you. ^_^


You forgot rapidshare :P