Microsoft: Xbox 360 Not Having Blu-ray is Good
Microsoft pats itself on the back for not having a high-definition optical storage medium such as Blu-ray Disc.
During infancy of the current console generation, there was much debate regarding Sony's inclusion of the Blu-ray Disc format with the PlayStation 3. The blue and violet lasers did drive costs up, but it was hard to argue with the value of a 50GB storage medium for Sony's console.
Fast forward ahead years to today, and we're still on the same argument but on a different scale. Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg told CVG that the Xbox 360 lack of a Blu-ray Disc drive has allowed it to take a massive lead against the PS3.
"Being $100 cheaper [than PS3] is part of the reason we're nearly twice their installed base," Greenberg said, referring to the North American market, according to CVG.
PlayStation 3's added investment in Blu-ray Disc, while it does cost more, pays off with games such as Final Fantasy XIII, where it ships on one disc versus three DVDs for the Xbox 360.
"The fact that we're able to offer a console starting at $199 is a benefit of not being burdened with that cost," Greenberg said to Edge magazine."For us, our bet was on digital distribution, that was the future - the ability to [play] 1080p movies with no disc, no download required; we have the largest movie and TV library, the largest HD library of any console."
Ironically, Microsoft's $199 version of the Xbox 360 doesn't come with the accessory that is needed most for the company's bet on digital distribution – a hard disk drive.
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Why do they justify being $100 cheaper because they do not offer blu-ray...
I think the last time I saw a video tap was at the thrift shop, or at the mission when I donated them to some one that could use them more than me.
DVD's are not quite there yet, but they are also on the way out.
With the D TV revolution, most people have 16:9 tv's now. If the console does not support 1080p it fails.
Also like they said, 3 DVD's for one game, vs. 1 blu ray... Have fun switching out discs part way through the game, I think the last time that happened, I decided it was time to upgrade and donate.
$199 starting price. True , but you have to buy a hardrive which is a 100 plus dollars and the controllers are 10 dollars cheaper but you have to buy the $20 play and charge kit. I'm not even going to go into the wifi adaptor. But the 360 is ALL hidden fees. Red Ring anyone? I had 2 360's RR in 2 months and i could never finish devil may cry because it scratched my disk so bad that it wouldn't read it. Now i game mostly on my pc but i bought a ps3 for final fantasy and i haven't had one thing to b$tch about. If theres a game i want and its on pc i'll get it if its not than its probably for ps3.
Somebody's a little jealous....hehe
Sir, you are on crack Cocain. Your system isn't even in the same League as a PS3, your mind has
left your body. You do not own the streaming video in which you are talking about, you are simply redirecting it to your system for a $ 60.00 a year prescription plus monthly Netflix Fee's. Last but not least your not streaming true HD video through your system, your streaming an upscaled 480 video to 720P which is a far cry short of Bluray quality which is 1080P * 1920P. Further more Netflix and any other streaming video company that you maybe talking about only offers about 20 percent of their lineup in streaming Video. So please go see a doctor and get your head re-attached to your body, then maybe you can think straight.
The main reason why they sale so many console it's because they let themselves hack, they knew which console to ban a long time ago but decided to ban in mass. It's just to boost up their figure and it's the reason why they sale more console than PS3.
Wii is hackable and cheap, they make great sale, XBOX is hackable and relatively cheap and make great sale, PS3 is not hackable and does not have a great network and they don't have the sale because of that.
Now they have ban more than 1 million XBOX consoles people will buy new one so is one of the reason for the bigger figure than Wii and guest what Microsoft seem to catch up with Wii console but Wii even they try to circumvent hacking they are not playing the same game as Microsoft which make them lag behind.
All in all they should not pats themselves in the back because of the blu-ray thing but because they let their console get hack and ban them later. Microsoft as always played like that and they are mostly #1 in the market because of that(in general figure)
Sorry for the long rant
Huh, I can buy an Xbox 360 Arcade for $128 canadian @ walmart and $129 @ bestbuy, dell.ca and futureshop...
Seems way cheaper then the PS3 now doesn't it?
that $200 box comes without an almost necessary hard drive.
As many have said, the bare XBox is that ... really bare. No rechargeable batteries for the remotes, no wi-fi, no HDD and you have to pay for decent online gaming. Just adding the 120GB HDD to the Arcade models brings it to the same price as the PS3 slim with same size HDD ...
Huh, I can buy an Xbox 360 Arcade for $128 canadian @ walmart and $129 @ bestbuy, dell.ca and futureshop...Seems way cheaper then the PS3 now doesn't it?
Good job, young one. You've encountered what is called a "sale". A "sale" is when products are marked down from their regular MRSP to a less expensive price at the expense of either the retailer or the manufacturer (in this case, the manufacturer).
The one on sale it's made for the people that had their XBOX ban so they can get a new one at a cheap price and use their old hard drive and such. The new firmware to hack your console has not get ban since 2 week what a amazing coincidence
lol.
"the ability to [play] 1080p movies with no disc, no download required"
so how do you get it?
give us good internet, then you guys can bang on about DD all you like.
personally, I'll pay the premium, and I like movies, the old argument still remains: the ps3 IS better value, if you use all of it's functionality (which I do). It looks the part too, more high end than the xbox. good to see these two equal valid products going after slightly different markets. everyone is happy.
Nearly twice the installed base? Last I checked, both consoles had total sales at just over 40 million so far, with the PS3 extremely close to the 360.
he is pointing out the fact that the xbox 360 sales blow away ps3. All you PS3 fanbois can run along now. and for the moron who said that 360 does not support 1080p think again. Just because it wont play a movie at 1080p does not mean the video games arent 1080p.
Oh and of course after a while they will get ban during the year and this will go on and on and on....
Just funny that someone is putting negative on my comment. Truth hurt!!!
Sir, you are on crack Cocain. Your system isn't even in the same League as a PS3, your mind hasleft your body. You do not own the streaming video in which you are talking about, you are simply redirecting it to your system for a $ 60.00 a year prescription plus monthly Netflix Fee's. Last but not least your not streaming true HD video through your system, your streaming an upscaled 480 video to 720P which is a far cry short of Bluray quality which is 1080P * 1920P. Further more Netflix and any other streaming video company that you maybe talking about only offers about 20 percent of their lineup in streaming Video. So please go see a doctor and get your head re-attached to your body, then maybe you can think straight.
Sir your on crack cocain. Let me help you.
Yes you dont own the streaming movie your talking about, thats why its called streaming. Redirecting it to your system for 60 bucks? Since when is live 60 bucks? Ive had live for 6 years and Ive never paid 60 bucks. Hell you can even find it for 34 bucks at amazon.com. Im so tired of this age old argument of omg the xbox you have to pay for online crap its getting old. If you cant afford $4.16 a month then I suggest you go mow some more lawns or stop relying on your mommy and daddy to buy you stuff. The problem is that overtime the ps3 has not and will not live up to the expectations that sony wanted us to believe. And you can stop adding fees onto the xbox that have nothing to do with it. How can you attribute netflix charge to the xbox when its just a service that is by choice. The netflix service on the ps3 cant even compare to the one on the xbox. The netflix interface is not even in hd resolution and looks like crap and its castrated compared to the xbox one. And the streaming is 480 upscaled to 720p? Where the hell did you get that from? By your crap statements and not knowing a thing about tecnology, I know for a fact that you dont own a xbox or never seen one in action. In the zune marketplace you stream 1080p movies with 5.1 sound you idiot. But I cant blame you cause you dont own an xbox.
Your what I call a lame. You dont know what the hell your talking about but you have so much to say. Im a gamer not a fanboy and I own the ps3,xbox360 and a 2500 dollar i7 gaming rig because I like to have choices. It bothers me that people like you are so stupid and limit yourself and market the hell outta the ps3. Before you and other idiots want to spout propaganda cause your fanboys ask yourself this question, Do numbers ever lie? The tribe has spoken regardless what your little brain thinks about a system. Look at the games that are sold on the platforms and the 360 outsells the hell outta the ps3 and the NPD data supports that. Look at the coveted exclusives that ps3 has, why does the exclusives for the 360 shatter the ones in terms of sales? Your drake, old snake,killzone 2 and kratos combined have not and will not outsell what halo did in a day. Since kratos came out today ill bet he will struggle to do 2 million in a week. People really need to stop jerkin off to the playstation and see it for what it is.
I and just like anyone that has comments doesnt own any stock in xbox or playstation so why do you feel like you have to always be childish and say mine is better than yours. You use you system in a way that suits you and i do the same it doesnt make you elite trust me.
You can say what you want about me but the ps3 has not lived up to what it was supposed to be in terms of next generation gaming. Look at this recent example; GOW3 is only 8 hours long! Now I thought they were susposed to be touting blu ray as having 50gb of storage that games can be bigger and more detailed. Name me some games without googling that run in 1080p? The only blockbuster that I know was metal gear. You wanna know why games on the ps3 dont run in 1080p? Because the paultry 256mb of ram it has for video. More ram equals higher res graphics and better framerates. The box has double that so see the box is faster in some areas and the ps3 is faster in others.
After my long rant, just be a gamer and look at it for what it is. If it looks like a duck,walks like a duck and talks like a duck, its a mother@#$%in duck!
$199 starting price. True , but you have to buy a hardrive which is a 100 plus dollars and the controllers are 10 dollars cheaper but you have to buy the $20 play and charge kit. I'm not even going to go into the wifi adaptor. But the 360 is ALL hidden fees. Red Ring anyone? I had 2 360's RR in 2 months and i could never finish devil may cry because it scratched my disk so bad that it wouldn't read it. Now i game mostly on my pc but i bought a ps3 for final fantasy and i haven't had one thing to b$tch about. If theres a game i want and its on pc i'll get it if its not than its probably for ps3.
You don't have to buy a hard drive. Since when have you HAD to buy a hard drive?
Let the fanboy flame wars begin!
PS3 has always been the only true HD game console on this generetion of consoles. In the far, far... second place is the 360 which can only produce up to 720P (not true HD) if you ask anyone.
On top of that PS3 has always been way cheaper than the 360 because everything (on top of every component been superior) to
the 360, everything IS included, no hidding charges, no having to buy extra stuff to get things that are already included on PS3.
he is pointing out the fact that the xbox 360 sales blow away ps3. All you PS3 fanbois can run along now. and for the moron who said that 360 does not support 1080p think again. Just because it wont play a movie at 1080p does not mean the video games arent 1080p.
Uhhh last I checked all 360 games rendered at a max res of 720p and up convert...
Uhhh last I checked all 360 games rendered at a max res of 720p and up convert...
Well last time i checked the ps3 games are rendered at a max 720p and NO UPCONVERT. It doesnt matter to the mainstream gamer if its fake resolution or real cause they dont know the difference anyway. Please try again..
Oh and of course after a while they will get ban during the year and this will go on and on and on....
the only truth is you spew more BS than the president LMAO
My PC has a Hard Drive and a 5870. Take that ^_^
Sorry i am not marketing the PS3, i am just stateing the facts about the Xbox360. You are not getting True High Definition through Streaming Netflix movies. And you are getting only about 20 percent of the movies that are available. I never once mentioned that the PS3 is a better gameing machine, they are the same as for gameing. I Simply stated that Streaming Video is a far cry from Bluray, if you believe otherwise go see an eye doctor. I don't care if you have a $ 2,500 Pc cause you want choices, you should beable to have choices and Microsoft shoould give them to you but they are not. What they are giving you is a watered down version and then comming online and telling you your getting the best when in fact you are not if your streaming video. Just the facts. I always get a kick out of all these die hard Xbox fans that can't handle the trueth.
This is amazingly arrogant of Microsoft (no surprise), but my only question then is why are all the Sony Playstation 3s sold out everywhere and there are a huge amount of XBoxes still on the shelf.
Granted somebody is going to rebuttal saying that it's other reasons behind the shortage of PS3s besides demand. I will have to calmly remind you then that not only does the PS3 have wifi built in, free online gaming for multiplayer, little to no issues with hardware (ala red ring of death), in addition to being one of the best Blu-ray players on the market.
Sony wins, come back next time if you'd like to play.
Sorry i am not marketing the PS3, i am just stateing the facts about the Xbox360. You are not getting True High Definition through Streaming Netflix movies. And you are getting only about 20 percent of the movies that are available. I never once mentioned that the PS3 is a better gameing machine, they are the same as for gameing. I Simply stated that Streaming Video is a far cry from Bluray, if you believe otherwise go see an eye doctor. I don't care if you have a $ 2,500 Pc cause you want choices, you should beable to have choices and Microsoft shoould give them to you but they are not. What they are giving you is a watered down version and then comming online and telling you your getting the best when in fact you are not if your streaming video. Just the facts. I always get a kick out of all these die hard Xbox fans that can't handle the trueth.
You know there is the zune marketplace that you stream 1080p movies from but you dont cause you dont own an xbox. But you and other fanboys thumb down my comments cause the truth hurts in your words doesnt it. So please try again...
My first 3rd gen was a 360, only because I got an elite for $150. I sold it and bought the slim when it came out. #1 reason is because the projected cost overtime for XBL vs getting free online with PS3. #2 is Blu Ray, which look great coming from a PS3. The truth is the PS3 is the same in many ways to a 360, just a better overall value.
Check out the NPD numbers. But sony fanboys alway argue fact. Sony is getting their ass kicked. As a ps3 owner im worried cause it doesnt look good at all. Tell me what you gonna play when your done with GOW3? Kratos and GT5 are the only aces sony has to play till the end of the year. Thats if GT5 comes out this year.
Face it. Numbers dont lie. But fanboys will still argue. You have no more achelies heels that makes this machine without a doubt better. So just stop it or give me some numbers that are facts just not the way you feel. I can link you to everything I say, can you?
he is pointing out the fact that the xbox 360 sales blow away ps3. All you PS3 fanbois can run along now. and for the moron who said that 360 does not support 1080p think again. Just because it wont play a movie at 1080p does not mean the video games arent 1080p.
The video games aren't 1080p either. Then again, less than 5% of the PS3's games are in 1080p as well.
Sorry i am not marketing the PS3, i am just stateing the facts about the Xbox360. You are not getting True High Definition through Streaming Netflix movies. And you are getting only about 20 percent of the movies that are available. I never once mentioned that the PS3 is a better gameing machine, they are the same as for gameing. I Simply stated that Streaming Video is a far cry from Bluray, if you believe otherwise go see an eye doctor. I don't care if you have a $ 2,500 Pc cause you want choices, you should beable to have choices and Microsoft shoould give them to you, but they are not. What they are giving you is a watered down version and then comming online and telling you your getting the best when in fact you are not if your streaming video. Just stateing the facts. I always get a kick out of all these die hard Xbox fans that can't handle the trueth, then they go and insert things that i didn't say. And last but not least the Xbox360 is not blowing out the PS3 in sales anymore, those days are over. And if you read Toms hardware on a regular basis you will see the Artical in which they have already stated that the PS3 will win the Console war again. But again that was not my point, my point was Steaming Video is not HD and your gettting a watered down version of movies on your Xbox360. It has nothing to do with the system cababilitys, it has to do with the Morons at Microsoft. Ok Xbox fanboys what else are you going to falsely acuse me of ????????