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Microsoft Could Integrate Eavesdropping in Skype

- By - Source : USPTO

Microsoft has filed a patent that describes a "legal intercept" of VoIP communications.

Filed in December 2009, the document was created when Microsoft may have had no intentions of acquiring Skype, but the company makes clear statements that it applies to Skype and similar services.

According to the patent - and it is just an application at this point - Microsoft envisions a variety of possibilities to use "recording agents" as a way to intercept, monitor, record and store recorded calls. The agent could be placed in a router, call server, or within the network of an organization. The agent can also be a software module that is placed between the call server or the network. Microsoft does not mention the recording agent to be hidden part of the client software. However, since Microsoft now owns the Skype infrastructure, that may not be a problem anymore.

The good news, depending on your view, is that the technology is only targeted to become a tool that can be requested by law enforcement. The downside, also depending on your view, is that those Skype calls may not be as anonymous as you think and your private information may actually be easily accessible by government organizations. Microsoft did not say if it already uses eavesdropping technology in Skype or other VoIP applications.

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stm1185 06/27/2011 11:33 PM
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illo 06/27/2011 11:37 PM
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guess im going back to vent.

LetUsAdvance 06/27/2011 11:59 PM
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wild9 06/28/2011 12:00 PM
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Quote :The good news, depending on your view, is that the technology is only targeted to become a tool that can be requested by law enforcement.


..and who now runs law enforcement: Joe Public, or Joe Private?

Anonymous 06/28/2011 12:16 PM
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I can see this being very useful for corporations. They already install software to monitor internet access so they can see when their employees are on porn sites or whatever on the clock, this, combined with cell a disruptor field many places already use, will let them see when employees are wasting time on personal calls.

Anonymous 06/28/2011 12:18 PM
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Why use Skype to begin with, when there are much cheaper options?



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amk-aka-phantom 06/28/2011 1:02 AM
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That's EXACTLY why I didn't like MS buying Skype in the first place. Original Skype told GTFO to all attempts to intercept and even released patches which circumvented blocks in certain countries (China, if I remember it right). Now, instead we get this.

keyanf 06/28/2011 1:03 AM
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Good for you Microsoft! You've made it impossible for any competion to pull this off now! Whee!

Anonymous 06/28/2011 1:10 AM
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@LetUsAdvance
He's not a troll, you appear to be the Troll.
He is correct. Several countries block access not only to skype, but to facebook and other social media due to "tool for terrorism etc"

I however don't see how this will benefit users. Its just another reason to 'give big brother more control' as some would say.

ikyung 06/28/2011 1:24 AM
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If you use Skype as a communication tool for illegal activities, you deserve to get caught.

micr0be 06/28/2011 1:29 AM
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google talk FTW!!!!!!1111oneoneone

LORD_ORION 06/28/2011 1:31 AM
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If everyone used SIP with SRTP and TLS... that would thwart the bad people.

fir_ser 06/28/2011 1:48 AM
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So now we can say that there is a possibility that video calls on Skype are now being monitored.

milktea 06/28/2011 1:53 AM
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One more reason why I stay away from Skype. :P

stm1185 06/28/2011 3:32 AM
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Walter87 :
@LetUsAdvanceHe's not a troll, you appear to be the Troll.He is correct. Several countries block access not only to skype, but to facebook and other social media due to "tool for terrorism etc"I however don't see how this will benefit users. Its just another reason to 'give big brother more control' as some would say.



Well it benefits users in those countries who could not use it before and who are not doing anything illegal with it and don't care about government monitoring. Its free global communication, it has value.

xerroz 06/28/2011 3:32 AM
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micr0be :
google talk FTW!!!!!!1111oneoneone


The "Google" in Google talk says enough about its position on privacy. I won't be using either

SmileyTPB1 06/28/2011 3:45 AM
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So now it's OK to do something illegal if you patent it? I wish I could patent something like prostitution and then that would be legal and I could license it to everyone.

Of course MS already "eavesdrops" on everything you do with their web browser, if not their OS too, so this really isn't all that different. Everyone should just assume that if you do it over the internet that at least one, if not many, major tech companies know all about it and have stored the information somewhere.

FloKid 06/28/2011 3:51 AM
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MicroSpies

alikum 06/28/2011 4:16 AM
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This couldn't get any funnier. There isn't even proof that MSFT would be integrating its patented tech into Skype and people get hyper and go all out bashing.

SmileyTPB1 06/28/2011 6:14 AM
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alikum :
This couldn't get any funnier. There isn't even proof that MSFT would be integrating its patented tech into Skype and people get hyper and go all out bashing.



Because MS would NEVER do anything questionable or outright illegal.

More importantly people are always going to bash MS because there is already so much material to work with. This just happens to be slightly different material.

eddieroolz 06/28/2011 7:53 AM
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It is slightly worrisome but still not deal-breaking for me. If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be worried about it.

Razor512 06/28/2011 8:40 AM
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if you spend money designing a product with a backdoor then be prepared to redesign it constantly as hackers will discover it and exploit it.

any security with a backdoor is inherently insecure as it now relies on algorithm that cant be made truly random by salting it with a source of randomness

Razor512 06/28/2011 8:47 AM
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also wanted to add that the tool for terrorist does not work as the secure encryptions are already available

It is completely open source for encryptions such as salted AES 256 and many other encryptions.

pushing for new software to be created with backdoors will mean less security for the non criminals who use it. anyone wanting proper security can still use the strong encryption as the technology is already available.

DaveUK 06/28/2011 11:01 AM
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You are wrong, this is sensationalist journalism at it's worst. I run my own telecommunications business and I was very disappointed reading this article.

The patent makes absolutely no mention of 'eavesdropping' or intrusion by external agencies. You also specifically state that the patent makes no mention of this tool being hidden.

Further, your own summary of the patent request specifically states that it is for 'recording' calls, and even goes so far as to describe the application for integration into a router / call centre / business environment.

The point of this patent is call recording which is a standard business function for businesses who may need to record internal or external conversations for legal, training, or quality assurance reasons.

This is NOT illegal if participants are informed - it is a very widely used practise and is there to protect consumers as much as businesses.

This technology is already widely used for standard analogue and digital telephony, which is why you may often hear "Calls may be recorded for training and quality purposes" when you call your electricity provider, for instance.

Microsoft is simply looking at ways of bringing this concept to a VOIP platform, which will surely be a big asset for them in the Unified Communications space in business/enterprise.

You have to imagine all the businesses that are currently using Microsoft Exchange, which may or may not have integration with their telecommunications platform via Outlook. You even mention a software deployment as part of the 'call server' on the network (normally referred to as a Unified Communications Server).

Now, imagine if Microsoft were able to leverage their Skype aquisition and patents like this to deploy an enterprise-ready VOIP solution as part of (or as an addition to) future versions of Exchange.

Now you're on the right page.

DaveUK 06/28/2011 11:14 AM
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They're actually already in this market already:

http://www.microsoft.com/uc/en/gb/default.aspx

As far as I can tell, third parties already offer call recording add-ons for Lync, I'm not sure if Microsoft offer their own. So this could be a way for Microsoft to include such technology in future versions of their own software.

Definitely a nonsense article, this one.

Silmarunya 06/28/2011 11:25 AM
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I don't care that the government sees my data. I don't do anything wrong and I live in a democratic country where the government is trustworthy most of the time.

However, tools like Skype are vital for democratic movements in Middle-Eastern countries and China. Let's hope MS takes the high road and refuses to give them that info, but I won't count on it. MS is a corporation after all...

Anonymous 06/28/2011 12:23 PM
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BRRRRNNN.... Interception!

killerclick 06/28/2011 12:26 PM
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Those who don't care about the government being able to eavesdrop , you do know that governments can change and their policies can change? We should resist government control not just because of what the current government can do but more importantly of what the future governments can do. Adolf Hitler won power with only 30% of the popular vote, remember that.

dioxholster 06/28/2011 12:50 PM
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fine by me, its a good way to catch criminals and also a way to prove someone's innocence.

killerclick 06/28/2011 1:12 PM
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dioxholster :
fine by me, its a good way to catch criminals and also a way to prove someone's innocence.



Guilt is proven, innocence is assumed.

whysobluepandabear 06/28/2011 1:29 PM
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Well there goes the 4chan fun.