waits for everyone to flame the courts for ruling in favor of the RIAA. Laws are laws, live with it.

**Yawn** No worries for me, I haven't bought a new CD in years. I don't download illegally, I just buy them used. Of course leave it to the RIAA and that would be illegal too.

Waits for you to get sued by the RIAA because you decided to copy your own legally bought CD's to your computer.

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_N [...] 199046551/

The RIAA is the devil. When will they learn that people didn't stop buying the CD's because of pirating but rather because they have 90% filler on them that are nothing but crap music.

Yea we shouldn't complain about a company that has no people suing anyone, including 7 year old girls. That and refusing to change their decade plus obsolete business model.

Can we burn the RIAA and kill it's CEOs? Am I going to get sued now?

Serious, burn it to the ground.

I would have no problem with the courts siding with an artist who was getting ripped off. A bunch of lawyers who claim they're supporting the artist but pocket the money themselves should have no right to sue anyone.

In other words this is how deep our pockets are.

Rich Industry Assholes of America?

No Tapes, CDs, or MP3s. Vinyl, The Way It's Meant To Be Played!

God help us all, the RIAA Gravy Train has been set in motion.

No the f&%king RIAA would sue because "records" are violating their company name.

Rich Industry Assholes of America? hehehehe great comment

i would definately not buy any music that comes from a corporate label or buy from any artist/label who signs with the RIAA.

if every one works together we can really hurt these bastards.
these folk do deserve to get it in the ass.i hate these blood leeches.

Direct infringement, inducement of infringement, contributory infringement, and vicarious infringement. OK I know I'm stupid, but come on them some big words up there. The RIAA can do this because they have the money to do it. Wait? Didn't they say that pirating taking money away from them???? I guess they need another 50 room house. I think if you put something out for the public. There should be no such thing as copyright laws, but what do I know. I'm just a dumb POOR hick, well not a hick, and they fell they need to take every last bit of our money. I guess it's fine. Not like I have the money to say anything.

HERE HERE!!!!

If usenet.com hired lobbyists and made bribes... errrr.... I mean campaign contributions, it might be a different story....

Jesus fuck NO.

There should be sane copyright laws (i.e. not "life of the author +70 years," more like "10 years from date of publication" or something), but not NO copyright laws.
I don't know about you, but I'd like the ability to get paid for people buying something I created instead of being ripped off by everybody. If creators want to give it away they can copyleft/Creative Commons it or whatever, but that should be optional.

Also, just to remind people that this doesn't have anything to do with Usenet, but Usenet.com, which was to Usenet what Pirate's Bay was to P2P only more blatant. They advertised and encouraged piracy with their service.

Usenet.com did something stupid. Fine. But Usenet as a whole has nothing to do with Piracy. There are over 100,000 groups there is what... a handful of pedo & piracy groups? Going after Usenet is like going after the entire web... or even Walmart for sellin Billy the PC used to go onto Pirate Bay or P2P to steal some crappy Jonahs brother CD.

Not for new music, but for anything made before the early 80s hell ya. All that classic and mowtown music belongs on vinyl ONLY. It needs that pop and cracking sound. It's like hot dogs and a cold beer at a ball game. It's just the way it should be.

Come on everyone lets get real it's always been about money and greed, I am in my mid thirties and all i remember since I was young is the price of digital media constantly increasing in price. I was suspect that the cost of making a DVD or a CD over the years has substantially decreased to a few cents per each unit. I have not bought any cd's and purchase a few DVD's a year due to their outrageous price. Guess what I spend the most of my time here, thats right, on the internet where I can entertain and challenge my mind for free, but I guess the pricks at RIAA will find a way to make money off of the internet too, once they've ruined the Digital Recording Industry. For Gods Sake, Drop the Price of a CD to about 5 Dollars and Dvd's to about 10 and I'll be glad to buy my share a year, but until then keep your COPYRIGHTS

I have my own idea for copyright laws.
Music: 5 years for a performance/recording; 50 years for the actual music
Movies: 10 years for the actual movie; 50 years for the IP from the date of last publication (ie sequels/books would extend the IP life)
Software: 3 years from the date of release while retail expansion packs would restart the the 3 year timeframe; IP would be 50 years from the date of last publication

I've always thought that this would be more reasonable. It protects the creative people, and allows them to continue to use their own IP while being up to date on where we are in a society. Besides, with a few exceptions how many people are buying 99% of the music 5 years out, software older than 3 years or movies that are 10 years old?

I haven't bought cd's or dvds in a really long time and I don't plan to because of the stupid MAFA-RIAA. Take away my TPB and usenet.com but I still won't give you rich punks any of my almost hard earned money.

I want to know which senators the RIAA is lobbying and how much they're getting paid. The RIAA is just refusing to change its business model and is using government as the vehicle to prevent that change. I'm surprised that given the cost of music, with the extremely low cost of production, that all of these record labels haven't been accused of, and take to court for, price fixing. $17 for a record that costs 2 cents to manufacture and less than $1 of that price going to the actual artists (sure, some of them are lip syncing artists...) can only occur when companies collude together to control the means of production and distribution.

It seems that with the fall in sales the RIAA is changing it's business model from promoting artists and selling music to employing lawyers in order to take money from people directly.

I've been saying it for a long time. I pirate ALL music and movies now since the RIAA started taking their legal actions. I bet a lot of others feel the same way. I had no problem paying small and reasonable fees for digial files, but now screw them. I won't pay one penny.

Don't be fooled, Our "justice" system is simply here to make sure the rich stay rich and the powerful stay powerful. THATS IT

In response to the suggestion of no copyright laws, I actually agree. Here is a plausible alternative:

All works can be copied and distributed by anyone, however credit must always be given to the original authors, and no one other than the original authors can profit from said works without permission. An author can optionally register a proof of original creation with some 3rd-party organization or government entity.

To make money, the original authors can accept donations and provide special bonuses such as signed copies of a particular work. In the case of books or music, the authors can make money from readings or concerts. That's pretty much how it is now anyway what with all the distributors taking the bulk of the profits.

Guys, guys.

I hate the RIAA's bullshit too, but all the general fuming in this thread almost sounds like you don't think this particular site deserved to be taken to court and ruled against, in this case. Maybe we can keep the general fuming to a minimum and talk about this case?

You know what really irks me is that there isn't a single piece of evidence to-date that can demonstrate a single loss of profit from file sharing or as the MPAA/RIAA call it pirating. In the last year alone Madonna made $280mil, Bruce Springsteen $166mil, Coldplay $37mil, Bon Jovi $170mil, hell even tired out Britney Spears made $24 mil, and I can go on and on. Say where is the loss? The only real pirates are the ones whom want to turn a profit, not the file sharers. Like most I haven't bought a cd in over 20yrs. I may buy a movie when I find in the bargain bin for $10 dollars or less.

Usenet ran religion Inc.While RIAA Also Does same. Both have content & standards that have allowed broad range of Murder Inc exploits as theARTS.imitated by wrestling Fan Pubic.Copyright of memory, RIAA. How to Really hurtyousef, 'ure USenet. Usenet is more recent & ?Legal Invention. RIAA claims things in print that are way out of bounds. like irs or any trap.word rules, authority figures as fundamental abusers.. So is United Nations.Many early standard bearers take information survielence to point of rapture, misleading few on every step.. RIAA Stems NO Honestly of ownership, as American Invention. Usenet college of forensics'-= Tool =-. No differnt than Sports or BAD neighbor.Usenet has many arms, with total survielence of Victim In Real World coordinate system plus DATA Survielance & tracking. while RIAA is typical expoitive fiction. its always 83 year old grandmama from france, caught with tapes of ?medical nature ....or was that Usenet.Usenet pretends fiction with enough savay to exploit, its plates are standaize, so any fan is illicit to harvest. USENET HARVEST PEOPLE. RIAA HARVESTS MONEY FROM FOOLS, PERHAPS standards of delivery having content with similar results as Usenet openly prys.
Usenet eploits concept of declaring WAR upon culture that supports IT.RIAA Brings reliable joy.vondrashek usenet flame e' durtee'

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