It isn't the company's job to save the job rates and economy. All the CEO's are supposed to do is keep their company strong and keep the stock price up for investors and share owners.

OBAMA made americans x3 poorer with that stimulus bill full of pork such as 1 million going to washington zoo ect.

That's what happens when you put money into banks, buy shares, savings etc. Just a consequences of the free market.

Too bad the Indian's are moron's. I say that from intimate experience. If you give them an exact guide on how to proceed they do a good job for a fraction of the price of an American worker, but ask them to think outside of the box and they just can't cut it.

The poor creativity of the average Indian is part of a reason my IT firm get's business. We always get called in to clean up their messes. Of course most of our business comes from Europe and we have yet to tap into our main client's US business because they haven't figured out yet how crappy their Indian outsourcing is.

I agree with paranoidmage. American workers have just gotten lazy and overpaid compared to what they used to be back in the 30s and 40s. If the show "The Office" is any indication of what the American workplace is....I can't say I blame companies! All those damn unions driving up costs....when will people realize we don't work in hazardous factories anymore and unions are BS?

That stimulus bill did suck, but don't complain about the paltry million dollars that went to a zoo....the billions that went to unnecessary politicians is the real nonsense.

^exactly. Stop whining and start working.

millions on welfare depend on it!

last I checked IT workers weren't unionized.

I think its a problem when its less expensive to hire someone overseas BEFORE hourly wage is factored into the equation.

I think its a problem when we let thousands of poorly accredited "Engineers" into the same lottery system as European doctors.

I think its a problem that companies have employees working full time positions, but periodically will lay them off for 3 month periods of time to avoid the patheticly ineffective contract labor laws.

I find it pathetic that GM was driven to bankruptcy by overpaid union workers, while more and more of us become contract employees, with minimal rights, competing with 3rd world labor.

And it all just makes me pretty sad. And... nobody seems to care. Nobody is angry. They just watch TV, eat cheesburgers, spew blind patriotism. I almost wish I was a stupid sheep as well... nice soothing complacent ignorance... *sigh*

"Taking American jobs away from the American people makes no sense at all."

Who said they were ever American jobs? If it wasn't so hard to hire an American, maybe I would hire more of them. Just wait until this health care bill passes and I am fined for not giving my American workers health care that I can't afford.

Or how about the Cap and Tax (Trade) bill that will increase energy costs so high that it doesn't make sense to even keep the lights on in America. Why should I hire more people in America if it costs me so much?

When will the idiots get it through their head that we live in a world economy and we are competing with the world. The world doesn't have government mandated health care, or cap and tax, or minimum wage, or unions. There is only so much an employer can take before these add up and make him move. Hiring talented Americans is great. Overpaying them and the US government sucks.

My only goal is to have a successful business so I can feed my family and please my investors that took a risk to invest in me. If I am successful, my investors make money so they can invest in another company, creating more jobs, creating more wealth, and increasing everyone's standard of living. Profits fuel job growth and standard of living growth. They are not evil. They go towards developing more jobs and more technology. Stop being stupid America.

fulle +1. That is exactly right, you can't really compare the cost of life on the 3rd world countries with the most developed countries in the world. Jut to make my point, i live on South America and i can eat for a week (3 normal meals a day) with 30 US$. The cost of life is really cheap. So the minimal income per month by law is about 250 US$.
It's not that hard to see all this greedy companies go train workers for an specific simple task on the poor countries so they can have the work done with a hell of a lot less in cost.

Shame on microsoft. With the amount of money they make with every Windows release i can't believe they are doing something like this knowing that their own contry is having a difficult time right now.

A company can reduce costs all it wants. But if the consumer has no money to spend in the first place because they are unemployed due to the company they worked for moving their job overseas to reduce costs.... Does any one see where this is going? It is a slippery slope.

Really, how many citizens in India buy our products? How many people worldwide buy our products?

If we keep sending work overseas to an economy that doesn't support our own, the businesses will eventually fail. How are Americans supposed to buy said products with out proper income?

Companies outsource for a variety of reasons but I would say Microsoft uses these employees in India for very specific tasks and possibly a new perspective. We are talking about 60 employees, from a company that employs around 30,000 at its Redmond office. While it would be nice for 60 more Americans to have jobs Microsoft has decided that they are getting more for their money in India and thats capitalism.

If they want people to buy their product and keep the stock prices up they do need to. These companies that are outsourcing arent doing it for the sake of not operating in the red. they are doing it for their own greedy reasons. id be all for the govt stepping in and issuing huge tax hikes and fines for those companies outsourcing to other countries. Then those cost cutting meaures really arent so cost effective anymore. Bring the jobs home. Let other countries support their own economy.

If we are morons then that makes you a total failure because your jobs are being outsourced to India, which means your country doesn't have the resources to make its own software and need our help. All you guys do is sell it and make a profit, you can say that we are morons when we start using products developed by you that is superior to our products.

To say we aren't creative doesn't justify us being morons, if you want creativity then ask one of your own country men for it, That is if you can afford their rates, and it doesn't look like you can.

Eventually, what will happen is a destruction of the American consumer goods market, and collapse of the free trade etc. blah blah...I would expect in the coming years taxation on software work or even on partial project fragments shipped over internet as a code. And the companies will need to sell all their products in India and China primarly, at Asian level prices .

This has been happening to the UK for decades.

Outsourcing to India is ridiculously common. So are Indians in the UK. To be honest, I'm completely used to it. Though, if people are that worried, they could move to India and get outsourced to. Thus taking the jobs from the Indians and becoming a "dirty American immigrant stealing our jobs" to the Indians.

Corporations have only one requirement: to maximize profit for their shareholders. All else is the means by which they do this.

Have you ever looked at the number of foreign students in graduate schools in the US? Have you ever compared the labor pools and education of the top 1,000,000 workers in the US, India, and China? Have you ever factored in the economy of scales?

India and China are booming. Soon, as their lifestyles demand more luxuries, they will want better pay and labor exploitation will be shipped off-shore. However, while people in the US continue to support the cult of the sport star over the value of an erudite citizen, we will continue to decline. We preached the gospel of free trade and open markets, and now we are learning that there is always someone in the world willing to do it for far cheaper.

Sure, the US could do a 180 and put up trade barriers, but then think of what that means when the champion of free-market capitalism suddenly enacts trade barriers. If we are wrong on this, what other ideas in the "great American experiment" of democracy are wrong?

Lets not blame corporations - they only reward share holders and their big appetite for huge ceo salaries with golden parachutes and bonuses. It has to be those unions that pay decent wages to middle class american with decent health care - we cannot allow middle class americans to have a decent living - damn them all. We need more people on minimum wage!!! Ofcoarse if we didnt give companies tax incentives to send employees over seas maybe that would help but hell that was a great bush idea! Lets here more from those republicans who are out of touch!!

Ok let them outsource I say. Hard fact for these company's is they better have plans to outsource buyers of their produces. Think the car company's already have a fill for this outsourced buyers.

Looks like us greedy Americans are waiting for India to outsource some of its work to the US? Free Trade, eh?

You admit that "your only goal" is about "me, me, me" -- and maybe some mysterious investors. Nowhere in your mentally-challenged post did you claim any interest in what happens to your employees or even your customers.




Let's see now: wealthy American investors are wealthier today than at any time in American history, but the number of American jobs has been disappearing at the same rate as that during the Great Depression. Are you sure you want to continue embarrasing yourself on this forum?

If you believe that India is superior to America and its citizens, why does India rely so much on American employers to provide its own citizens with jobs? Surely, a market of a billion people can figure out how to employ itself without holding its hands out for America's outsourced positions.

We will see how funny it is when most of you are struggling to feed your families, because if you all didn't know America is Bankrupt.
No one is trying to 'really' do anything about it.
The Dollar is dead and the Amero will soon be born, courtesy of the New World Order and 'Global Economy'.

I heard Texas Instruments will be renamed to "Kashmir Instruments" soon :-)

I am not saying that we are superior to Americans, And i didn't intend that, that is what you are believing, all i am trying to do is defend my country against some idiot who thinks he nows everything about Indians, and talks absolote crap about my country. Just like you were defending you're country. If i offended you in any way then i am sorry, that wasn't my goal, i was only responding to an arrogant reply.

People are already moving to India. The U.S. is becoming a Fast food/Walmart economy. Been to Singapore lately? The number of foreign workers just keeps increasing every month.
However, I don't believe Americans are lazy though. I think they are still #2 in work per hour and #1 in work per day. (my 2 cents worth)

fuck india

Yes, Indians are idiots. Their tech support follow scripts and if you run across a problem that isn't scripted for, they still follow the flowchart...stupid. No matter how much you know a step won't help, they keep telling you to do it anyways, absolutely stupid.

But American tech support isn't much better. I once had an american tech support person reset the password to my email account, and sent the info to the email account I couldn't get into.