If it's true, I hope Eleven Engineering ends up with about a 20 percent share stake in all 3 corps and at least $1B from each of them. lol

dualshock???????? wait a minute. so your saying this small crap company JUST noticed dualshock and others that has been out for years and NOW is taking action? i call bullshit. just another company trying to scam money out of companies to compensate for their products that never made it.

I typed this comment on my Six Axis Eleven Keyboard.

well i dont see how the ps3 infringes on it because it uses bluetooth instead of the normal wireless radio found in the other consoles.

actually nevermind, now that i read what the company really does.. maybe they have something lol.. minus last comment.. (cant find a delete)

but PS3 and Wii uses bluetooth and Xbox uses their own proprietary wireless protocol...

i can see MS MIGHT have a case but why Sony and Nintendo?

this is just throw and see what sticks lawsuit....

I patented putting letters on buttons, now everyone must give me money for every keyboard resembling object made.
Greed and stupidity don't get very far but you can sure fall very far.

Eleven: "This global economic crisis is killing us! We need to find a way to raise some capitol. I know will do what everyone else is sue M$. But we won't stop there we'll go after Sony and Nintendo as well. When were done with them will go after all the aftermarket companies as well that make wireless products for them. Hey everyone's doing it."

Eleventh!

How man

Are you serious? Wow.... How long have wireless controllers been out? And their just now noticing?

The winner will be who has more money for lawyers.

This ought to be interesting. If it's legit, they just hit the jackpot. If it isn't, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are gonna have fun ripping them to shreds.

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man, isn't Eleven Engineering slow. these controllers been out for three (360, four) years and there now noticing...... Although i somehow don't think the all 3 companies use the same wireless controllers or else they would of been suing each other first. Then again i could be wrong.

This is yet another example of a patent Troll and how the US,etc patent/coppyright systems are broken.

I thought patents were to protect you from people copying the products you were making... Seems patents are really for buying ideas and then sueing other companies when they come out with similar products. This crap has to stop.

It has nothing to do with "just now noticing". It has to do with $$$. If they filed their suit the day Sony/Nintendo/MS released their wireless products, there would only be a few thousand sold, so the damages they could be awarded in the courtroom will be small. By waiting a few years, these companies have now sold millions of units, so Eleven Engineering can now claim far FAR larger damages and potentially be awarded TONS more money. They certainly didn't "just now notice".

Really odd, I remember the Atari 2600 having wireless controllers a while back and I had some wireless controllers for my NES. There must be something more specific they are suing over rather then that its just wireless.

For all you people calling this company a "patent troll"...or whatever, If you designed a technology, patented it and then someone else made millions of dollars off of it.. you would be in court too. it is apparent that MS, Sony, Nintendo.. and most likely many more, have infringed upon this patent.

There are three main categories for patents:

Utility patents may be granted to anyone who invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, article of manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvement thereof;
Design patents may be granted to anyone who invents a new, original, and ornamental design for an article of manufacture; and
Plant patents may be granted to anyone who invents or discovers and asexually reproduces any distinct and new variety of plant.

When you submit a patent, there is a board of officials that examine your submission. If there is no current patent on file for your idea/design, then they will grant you a patent. You must maintain your patent by paying fees. They will grant your a 10 or 20 year patent, which can be renewed at the end of its term.

its plain, its simple.

So before some of you people spout off about "patent trolls".. do yourself a favor and read the patent procedures and laws before you comment. Because until you do, the only "Troll" here is you.

Well KT_Wasp why many call the patent system broken is because what a lot of companies or firms do is buy up thousands of patents or hire people to brainstorm hundreds of patents then they sue the pants off anyone who comes up with a similar idea, or offer to sell the patent to them for ridiculous prices. If a company can't show anything for a patent they own, then others should have the right to step in. Patents eliminate competition (unless your a company with enough money to buy the patents), and in the end they're really only hurting us the consumer and individual inventors who can't do anything out of fear of being sued...

I have a just put in a patent on how to sue another company for patent infringement. Can't wait to rake in the money on that one!

Stuff it wasp, Get real I don't know exactly where your going with this definition on patent hoopla but LETS be honest. The patent is a joke and mainly for the fact that its an obvious step which is not supposed to be established as belonging to any one person or company.

You prove it with plant patents..wow..no more needs to be said...cause you know we create life right...oh my bad that's all natural fuck me.

Sure the big threes would sue someone over a patent they had but again it prob never should have even crossed the board. SO here you go, they don't hoard a patent they get sued for not hording the patent...see you plain and simple going out the window..Screwed if you do screwed if you don't. Besides they will just pay them a meager amount considering and they will stfu. Oooo what a lesson.

I'm sorry Mr Wasp, but, while that is the process, that doesn't mean that's how the patent will actually go down. Have you read some of these patents people have then sued upon. Some of these patents are more vague than a bad criminals alibi. It's pathetic and the system is broken. It hinders progress and creativity. I have seen better run pyramid schemes than the US Patent system, only the pyramid schemes are more legit.

You guys don't know how suing trolls work. It's like poker. You don't just raise on the first turn! You have to get the suckers in so the pot gets bigger. Same here. Pattent something obvious, wait a few years so companies who actually do something make a lot of money with a similar product and THEN you sue and claim your "share"!

It's been said over and over, and it will be said for the next couple of years: the US patent system if more flawed than a pre-Jasper 360.

RF Frequencies and wireless controllers? You've got to be kidding me. Ever since the wire was invented, people have been trying to come up with a way to remove the wire (and Eleven Engineering did not invent RF communication). I think the only difference between a wired Playstation remote and a wireless is where the USB chip normally resides, it's replaced with a RF chip (and the power-lines diverted to the battery case). That's not an invention, that's common sense.

Now, if the RF chips used by Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft are cheap, unlicensed Taiwanese knockoffs of a chip Eleven Engineering developed, that's a different story.

Well, technically they can't be patent trolls because M$ Sony and Nintendo are all patent trolls. Everyone knows it is physically impossible to troll a troll. It would be like like crossing the streams... the universe would implode and you'd get "total intellectual property reversal". ;-)

IR controllers were around long before that, but I'm pretty sure there were some RF wireless controllers before 2001. This just sounds like a case of bad patents gumming up the legal system.