Ubisoft Accused of Re-Selling Torrented Music

So, why would they torrent their own music? I must be missing something here....

Good job Ubisoft

...what?

I love Ubisoft )))

I have to say if the crack is released by the company with the rights to the game does that not render the crack legal?

And I would guess that they had to pay a lot of money for the rights to use a song, Which perhaps the production company gave them a worse quality copy than was available via torrent, Once they had paid for the rights to use the song then using a copy downloaded off the internet was no longer breach of copyright.

The same Ubisoft that implemented ridiculous DRM to prevent piracy? LOL

I think Best Buy is selling torrented music on Napster. Check the file properties after recording a track.

While Ubisoft is free to release a no cd patch of their own which is legal as they are the content and copyright owners releasing someone else's work as your own is illegal, so no, the Ubisoft crack is illegal and theft of intellectual property of the creator of the crack as well as profiting from someone else's work etc.

I thought there was another one, a company (can't remember which) re released their game on Steam and instead of writing the no-cd code, they totally ripped I want to say it was RAW's crack. Though I have been saying it forever now, if you can't beat them, make them work for you without pay

Not only that, but you're also screwing any programmers you have working for you that would get paid to fix that kind of thing

Wait are we all saying it's bad for a company to pirate and ok for us consumers 0_o Kinda seems a reverse of positions from what is normally posted in the comments section. Personally I own several games that require me to register with steam and then demand that I put the CD/DVD into the drive every time I want to play the game I brought, registered, activated and signed a contact in blood with them to be able to play.

Ironic that the most outspoken anti-piracy publisher, who are known for the most invasive and restrictive of DRM, would turn to piracy to save themselves a little work and/or programmer wage.
Stuff like this makes me really hate ubisoft. they should be forced to pay the pirates a percentage of the game royalties. teach them a thing or two.

I reckon they call the whole thing "Even Stevens" and each side say to the other "I see what you did there" and walk away.

OK, they torrented their own music.

That's not piracy.

That's as stupid as me eating my own sandwich and handing myself into the Police for theft.

It's more like you making a sandwich, someone stealing it and putting it in their own cling film (I'm not sure how much effort was required for the crack thing, I assume that when compared to the effort for making the games it was comparable value as cling film is to a sandwich, rather than being like a nice sandwich box compared to a sandwich) and then you taking the sandwich back, still in its cling film. Taking the cling film is wrong, but somewhat less so than taking the sandwich. Yes I know that breaching intangible rights is not directly comparable with theft of tangible things, before anyone starts on that.

BWMerlin - you seem to be overlooking the comparative values of what was copied; other than that, yes fair point. As it is, the 'loss of income' for the writer of the crack should be more than amply covered by the damage they caused / aided in the first place.

Actually - has anyone checked in the EULA to see if the publisher retains all rights to any modifications made to the software? If that's the case then it wouldn't actually be illegal to use the work as their own - stupid to do, but not illegal.

Well, I didn't mention the NoCD crack, I mentioned the music only.

So let's have a more relevant comparison.

It's as ridiculous as Paul McCartney being charged with theft for downloading the White Album.
His, he wrote it, he owns the rights to it, probably still has the master disk in a frame in his living room - doesn't matter if it got uploaded to a torrent site or not he can do with it what the hell he pleases.

Please get rid of these spamming idiots trying to sell me shoes. Thank you

Why are you quoting me for a comment like that? I don't pirate...if I like something I buy it, if I don't, I don't play it. Simple enough. I'm into IT/programming. I know how much work goes into these games. I'd rather feel appreciated for my work.

This is nothing short of ironic. But the thing to remember is that most times, 99% at least, the biggest supporters of DRM and other similar technologies are the biggest pirates of all.

This reminds me the fact that Microsoft must have problems with their own legal copies of windows and then crack them.

This is where piracy law need to change.

I'm against people selling stuff illegally, but when a user paid for something, and it's not working properly, it's just normal that they try to make it work better.

really kevin? really? you're making a non-issue an issue? really?
i've got a friend who has a Dj business where he's been downloading mp3's and what ever else he needs for his gis, he pays the royalty fee for each song for every time he has paid it. pretttttty sure ubi soft has paid for this music, who give a flying monkeys butt where they got it from if they have paid? REALLY!

gigs*
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edit feature is not working. other wise the artists they stole from had they not paid would have their butts in court and shut this game down like the p2p's & dvdxcopy they shut down.

This is silly. Please remember that bit-torrent is 100% legal. The word "torrent" has a negative connotation because of the trading of protected works without the author's knowledge or permission by use of this protocol. If they downloaded their material by FTP no one would care, the issue exists only because Bit-torrent has a negative association with it. In short, the material is theirs in the first place so it doesn't matter how they obtained it. They are duplicating data via a transmission protocal that people see as bad.

More like if Paul was remaking a Cirque de Soleil based off the white album, and instead of going back to the master discs, he downloaded an illegal copy of the web, and then used that copy for his remake.

When I first read the story, it sounded like they used pirated music they didn't know who owned in the game, not just download a torrent of the soundtrack that had a better quality.

I guess it only goes to show that people want the better quality sound. We don't want to have to keep paying for new slightly better versions every year or two. Mp3 was fine for consumer grade stuff in the 90s, but modern creation asks for a bit better sound, especially if you're going to be using it for creating a professionally made product.

Its the fact that a game company, in an effort to save money/time to get a better quality soundtrack to work with, went and downloaded the soundtrack online instead of getting a higher quality version from the author.

Thus they are using a method the RIAA usually lam-blasts all the time as illegal and the reason businesses are going under so badly, to develop games. A tiny bit of delicious irony if I understand this properly.

Sure, we all know the MPAA and RIAA inflate their numbers, falsely attribute sales losses to people who earn as much in a year to buy maybe 2-3 CDs, but a larger and more frequent mountain of evidence that they're all pricks helps prove a point to more people and reduce the support base they enjoy.

ubisoft: a company after my own heart

An entertaining read early in the morning.
I have a half dozen or so games that I legally own and have cracked anyways (3 to allow custom resolutions or aspect ratios, the others so I can actually run the game properly).

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/m [...] 12427.html

Ah crap, wrong copy paste.

Original post: Ubisoft...the one company no one can explain why they do such things.