McDonald's to Offer Electric Vehicle Charging

By Marcus Yam, published on July 6, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Source: Tom's Guide US | Keywords: , , , , | Themes: Business
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Your electric car will be lovin' it.

Need to refuel? Perhaps you might consider stopping by McDonald's for a Happy Meal… for your electric car.

McDonald's and NovaCharge today announced that it will be deploying electric vehicle charging stations at the famous fast food restaurant. The first of these new "green" McDonald's will open on July 14 at noon and is located at 1299 Kildaire Farm Road in Cary, NC. 

“The networked grid-friendly charging stations are a perfect complement to the many innovative green features of the restaurant,” said Ric Richards, owner/operator of the new McDonald's. “Our customers will have a dedicated place to park and recharge their vehicles.  McDonalds is enabling a better environment for future generations by supporting zero-emissions transportation infrastructure, through the use of the ChargePoint Network.”

While this is undoubtedly a great idea for the few of those with electric vehicles (hey, you've got to start somewhere), the nature of the short-term stays for patrons of McDonald's makes the little bit of charging somewhat pointless at fast food restaurants. Hopefully full-service restaurants and shopping centers adopt the idea of electric plug-ins.

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apmyhr 07/06/2009 11:23 PM
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Are they going to charge money for people who use it?

dman3k 07/06/2009 11:25 PM
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Do they expect people to spend hours at McDonald's?

IzzyCraft 07/06/2009 11:30 PM
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dman3k :
Do they expect people to spend hours at McDonald's?


Well when you have several heart conditions you tend to move slow.

daft 07/06/2009 11:36 PM
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well, if they use the same battery that will be in the lightning gt, a few minutes could lead to 30-50% charge. not bad in my book

saljr 07/06/2009 11:39 PM
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I'm surprise that Wal-Mart haven't thought of this? Because people do spend at least an hour shopping.

FUtomNOreg 07/07/2009 12:05 PM
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IzzyCraft :
Well when you have several heart conditions you tend to move slow.Apparently, they have found an alternate use for the defibrillator.


Apparently, they have found an alternate use for the defibrillator.

nitto555rchallenger 07/07/2009 12:15 PM
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Mc Donald's Good for the environment, Bad for your health.

Anonymous 07/07/2009 12:15 PM
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Too bad the electricity for it probably isn't from a green source, when they do that I'll be impressed otherwise it's just McDonalds trying to make themselves look better

Anonymous 07/07/2009 12:17 PM
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I would imagine that the electricity would get to be a tad expensive for what is essentially the lowest priced fast food chain. Cary is an uber-wealthy, ritzy city, though, I'm sure they'll have a very high per-capita rate of electric car ownership, that's where all the big pharma executives have their 10 million dollar houses.

Anonymous 07/07/2009 12:25 PM
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Despite the flack it's getting, this is the first major steps forward to making an electric car a feasible option. One of the biggest disadvantages of an all electric car is the lack of remote recharging stations. It's only good for commuting - not traveling. Knowing that McDonald's (that are everywhere) will supply a recharging method, you can now take a vacation most anywhere within the US, find a motel/hotel close to a McDonalds, let it charge up...

It's a step forward, even if it's not the complete solution.

aspireonelover 07/07/2009 1:07 AM
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I hoped people made better decision instead of spending hours @ mcdonalds everyday. Why not just invent universal wireless-power charged vehicles? isn't that a bit faster and every car on the road won't run out of electric?

Anonymous 07/07/2009 2:46 AM
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where do you think this electricity comes from? burning coal? nuclear? ... you might as well just buy a prius, oh wait those do more harm in their manufacturing process than the good they do for their 100,000 mile lifetime... the closest answer is hydrogen in my opinion. this battery stuff is not a truly feasible option.

okibrian 07/07/2009 2:57 AM
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Can I get that with a combo deal?

Wayoffbase 07/07/2009 2:59 AM
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aspireonelover :
I hoped people made better decision instead of spending hours @ mcdonalds everyday. Why not just invent universal wireless-power charged vehicles? isn't that a bit faster and every car on the road won't run out of electric?


... then there would be lightning bolts shooting through the air at every car on the road. I don't think its the battery manufacturers stopping this one, I think thats a bit less than feasible.

thejerk 07/07/2009 4:41 AM
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Park your fat.fucking.ass right here and save the planet... and develop heart disease/hypertension/diabetes/congestive heart failure/DVT/pleural effusion...

aspireonelover 07/07/2009 5:43 AM
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Wayoffbase :
... then there would be lightning bolts shooting through the air at every car on the road. I don't think its the battery manufacturers stopping this one, I think thats a bit less than feasible.


but the lightning bolts would be invisible, wouldn't it?

cablechewer 07/07/2009 6:22 AM
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I find it interesting that they chose Cary, NC for this pilot project. I am not aware of any programs that encourage electric cars in NC nor am I aware of large enough numbers of electric cars in the state. I know there are several states that offer incentives but I am not aware of any in NC (beyond the Federal tax credit that Tesla is using to get the Model S below $50k.

You do have to start somewhere with charging stations. Even if you only stay 20 minutes you can still get a significant charge. 20 minutes is an easy to hit timeframe. You plug in, walk in, wash your hands, line up, place your order, wait for the order, sit down to eat and then walk back out to the car.

For those who are saying you will have to stay for hours you are thinking of the max charge time. Yes if you pull into this restaurant with little or no charge left and try to get back to a full charge you will need a lot more time. However if you pull in with half a charge a 20-30 minute stop will be enough to bring you up to at least 60% (consider that the Roadster on a 240V/70A charging circuit should need 3.5 hours to go from 0-100%).

If the charging stations become commonplace then everywhere you stop you'll be able to get yourself at least a 10 minute charge. Suddenly electric vehicles with "short" ranges could take you through a full day of errands around town. Each of the charging stations would give you that extra little boost to keep the car going all day and then you simply top it up at night.

As for the source of the power - yes green sources are better, but even a dirty coal plant and transmission losses offer better efficiency and lower pollution than using thousands of gasoline powered engines as small generators.

ssddx 07/07/2009 1:23 PM
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At least MDs is putting one step forward. This is the exact response needed to fuel interest in placing recharge stations. After all: monkey see, monkey do.

Sure, hydrogen cars are better for the environment. However, I'd rather not have an accident in one! Also: electricity doesnt have to come from "dirty" coal plants and nuclear facilities. It can also come from wind farms, tidal stations and solar generation plants. Also keep in mind that coal based stations, although old, are having retrofits to reduce their emmissions by 95%+/-.

sublifer 07/07/2009 1:52 PM
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Quote :the nature of the short-term stays for patrons of McDonald's makes the little bit of charging somewhat pointless at fast food restaurants

Thats exactly why they're doing this, they're going to have MORE customers coming, if only mainly to recharge, and they're going to be staying there longer (so they can buy desserts or another round of burgers) I wonder how much it will cost to charge at mcd's...?

Anonymous 07/07/2009 4:01 PM
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And the best part of charging your electric car at McDonald's will be the complementary ethanol milkshake!

__-_-_-__ 07/07/2009 6:06 PM
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WTF is this?!?!?!
they are the most polluted fast food chain in the world. they destroy amazonia to plant soya and now they come with this stupid marketing?!?!??????
are people stupid enough to believe they are the good ones?

Jerther 07/07/2009 6:38 PM
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Quote :(consider that the Roadster on a 240V/70A charging circuit should need 3.5 hours to go from 0-100%).


this means about 16 800 VA (let's say watts and consider the result a maximum value)

for 3.5 houres, it would cost less than 7$ here... !!? what? 7$ vs 40$ to fill my gaz car?

where's the catch? And a 70A line, this is freaking dangerous.

vincenz0 07/07/2009 8:01 PM
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forensic_scientist :
where do you think this electricity comes from? burning coal? nuclear? ... you might as well just buy a prius, oh wait those do more harm in their manufacturing process than the good they do for their 100,000 mile lifetime... the closest answer is hydrogen in my opinion. this battery stuff is not a truly feasible option.



You need electricity to split hydrogene from H20. So it is the same problem in the end.

We can produce "green electricity" thought, with Hydroelectricity.

grieve 07/07/2009 9:17 PM
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The new commercials...

Come to Mc'pukes... we give you two types of gas!


I think it is a good idea, eventually everyone might adopt the idea and you could get a plug in everywhere... Gotta start somewhere.

Jerther 07/07/2009 9:32 PM
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vincenz0 :
You need electricity to split hydrogene from H20. So it is the same problem in the end.We can produce "green electricity" thought, with Hydroelectricity.



not everywhere. Here we can (province of quebec) and there's plenty for everyone and even more.

And even then, not everybody's happy (like in everything). Some complain that it destroys nature and raises mercury level in the created "lake" blablabla...

hell you know what? I've seen groups complain against wind mills! because THEY KILL BIRDS!

There are projects for wind mills near where I live and some people are complaining about the VISUAL POLLUTION they might get.

And this goes on and on. I bet your ass there would be complains about 100% free and perpetual energy.

daft 07/07/2009 10:54 PM
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Jerther :
not everywhere. Here we can (province of quebec) and there's plenty for everyone and even more.And even then, not everybody's happy (like in everything). Some complain that it destroys nature and raises mercury level in the created "lake" blablabla...hell you know what? I've seen groups complain against wind mills! because THEY KILL BIRDS!There are projects for wind mills near where I live and some people are complaining about the VISUAL POLLUTION they might get.And this goes on and on. I bet your ass there would be complains about 100% free and perpetual energy.


and that complaint would be the loss of revenue

Wayoffbase 07/08/2009 12:17 PM
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aspireonelover :
but the lightning bolts would be invisible, wouldn't it?


enough electricity to power a car would turn your ass to ash if it hit you, and would be a little hard to hide. it is true that 'any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic' (I forget who said that), but usable, wireless energy is pretty firmly in the realm of magic at this time. Although, since you got me thinking about it, I guess solar power would qualify, but thats got a long way to go still.

JonnyDough 07/08/2009 8:05 AM
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FUtomNOreg :
Apparently, they have found an alternate use for the defibrillator.



That's because they expect us to bag our own groceries, people still use checks, and people like to argue pricing at the checkout because they can't look for a price tag.

Platypus 07/08/2009 6:37 PM
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grieve :
Come to Mc'pukes... we give you two types of gas!


That definitely made me LOL.

When the "Super Size Me" movie came out, the spokesperson for McDonald's said the movie was foolish and they only recommend you eat McDonald's once per week and that it was perfectly healthy to do so. Going there every day would obviously lead you to become increasingly unhealthy.

And here we are in 2009. Either they no longer believe it to be unhealthy or they think you'll enjoy charging your car there once per week. If you can make it through the other 6 days of the week, chances are you won't be basing your lunch decision on a car recharge bonus.

tester24 07/08/2009 6:50 PM
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Well, it is a good idea, i mean if you have an electic car and you are low on charge you can charge at mcdonalds and get food, plus Mcdonalds are everywhere like gas stations so you wont be screwed, also if they plan on charging you for the power make it like a parking meter style.

but we are far from having a lot of electric vehicles on the road...

cracklint 07/08/2009 7:35 PM
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I remember an article in a Weekly Ready when I was in elementary school that told about a car that would run on water; that was in the mid 80's. Where is that technology today? Last I checked water was in abundance with the world being covered in 2/3 of the stuff.

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