Some iPhone 4 Users Think They Already Have 4G
But so do some Android and BlackBerry users too.
The iPhone 3G and 3GS had 3G radio technology, so that means that the iPhone 4 must have 4G, right? No, that's just dead wrong – but that doesn't stop at least one-third of iPhone 4 users from thinking that.
Retrevo conducted a survey on 4G phone adoption, and asked consumers if they were planning on buying a 4G phone this year. 34 percent of iPhone owners believed that they already had one.
While that may paint Apple users in a bit of an uninformed light, not far behind were Android users, of which 29 percent questioned also believed that they had a 4G phone. Of course, some of them may actually be right, if they own a HTC Evo 4G or Samsung Infuse 4G.
BlackBerry users were a little savvier, with only 24 percent thinking that they already had a 4G phone.
For those who said no to an upgrade to 4G, the largest reason, given by 30 percent of respondents, was that the data plan costs too much. 22 percent felt that 4G performance wasn't worth the cost, and 19 percent admitted that they didn’t know enough about 4G.
How do you feel about 4G?
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I 'have' 4G but can't actually get it where I live... I do in town though but notice little difference in casual use. Still, this report would seam to suggest that iPhone, et.all. users are complete morons... Although honestly, probably the bulk of that would be true...
Well the iPhone 3G and 3GS only support HSDPA not HSUPA so they half support 3G+ or what AT&T and T-mobile like to call 4G, but the iPhone 4 supports both HSDPA and HSUPA so it fully supports 3G+ or what their definition of 4G is. So under AT&T and T-mobile's definition of 4G the iPhone 4 is a 4G phone.
It says Android users were not far behind, with 29% believing they had 4G phones. That's not an apples-to-apples (pardon the pun) comparison with the iPhone 4 owner statistic, because 100% of the 34% of iPhone users were wrong, whereas some percentage of the 29% of Android users were correct. So it's also incorrect to conclude that the Blackberry users were "savvier" seeing as how 100% of that 24% is dead wrong, too. At least, I don't know of a 4G Blackberry.
And the conclusion: iPhone users are stupid hipsters.
lol
As a iPhone 3Gs user, this does not surprise me. There's two sides of this cookie though. The first side is that iPhone 4 users have assumed that's one of the reasons the phone has the number 4. Apple released the iPhone, then the iPhone 3G (b/c of the 3G radio otherwise not just call it the iPhone 2), then the 3Gs that had a faster processor, and now the iPhone 4. Apple was trying to deliberately confuse people. It may not have include the "G" at the end of the device name, but they were inkling at it, plus they're at "3" now so they couldn't go back in numbers either. Now the other side of the cookie. AT&T has done a lot of false marketing to trick people. This has only blurred the line of what true 4G really is. Telecom companies should not be able to market like this. There may be requirement standards and the nitty-gritty is quite complicated, but there needs to be a new consumer friendly simple standard that consumers need to be easily presented with. Consumers don't need to know all these radios types, just the true upload and download speeds. If a phone falls into a speed range it can be called 4G and the position it lies in should be presentable to customers.
Don't care for 3G or 4G. It's overpriced and slow (at least in my country). All I need is Wi-Fi.
Oh and I hate the iPhone 4, hence why I haven't gotten one. There's too much Android eye candy out there, but I'm still curious to see what the iPhone 5 has to offer before I buy.
I absolutely love 4G, Droid Charge plays very nice with it. Extremely FAST!!!
4G is a nice luxury to have. I've got the Droid Charge and the speeds are very fast. Apps download faster than you can pull the window shade down.
Surprises me that only 34% of the iPhone users believed they had 4G - bet if Steve tells them they do have it they will believe it and the number will jump to 99.9%
dcompart,
I agree on the way Apple named the 3G and then the 3GS. but I seriously doubt they were trying to fool people with the Iphone 4. It was a total redesign of the phone, not just another processor upgrade to the the 3G. Therefore a next version gets the number 4 nomenclature. The same is true when companies name software revisions. If you are paying 400-500$ for a phone you should at least read up on the specifications of what the phone can do. Don't blame Apple or any of the other phone companies, if people just come out of pocket out of stupidity.
This article makes it sound like there are very few 4G phones out there for Android. This simply isn't true.
Well the iPhone 3G and 3GS only support HSDPA not HSUPA so they half support 3G+ or what AT&T and T-mobile like to call 4G, but the iPhone 4 supports both HSDPA and HSUPA so it fully supports 3G+ or what their definition of 4G is. So under AT&T and T-mobile's definition of 4G the iPhone 4 is a 4G phone.
No, there's no "3G+". You're further blurring the lines between two distinctly different technologies, and no, the iphone does not support 4G at all, whatsoever, in any form. So by definition, the iphone supports 3G technology on every carrier to date. Also, AT&T currently has no actual 4G coverage anywhere. Either does tmobile.
maddad, dont make excuses for apple's customer base
you know the only reason they sell so many is people are too thick to read and understand the specs compared to other phones
surveyer: who makes the most powerfully phones
apple fan: err apple
surveyer: who makes the most technologically advanced phones
apple fan: err apple
This report explains why so many ppl prefer ios over android. There is so many retarded and lazy ass ppl in this world that need a simple and boring operating system to know how to work it.
4G is stupid! I want whatever G Jezza is having!
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If anybody says 4G, it's considered false advertising. "The current versions of these technologies provide downstream peak bitrates of 144 Mbit/s and 100 Mbit/s respectively, and do consequently not fulfill the original ITU-R requirements of data rates approximately up to 1 Gbit/s for 4G systems." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G. They claim 4G speed, but if it was actually 4G we'd be seeing wireless tech far beyond anything we see now, even with a lot of home and business network access.
And the conclusion: iPhone users are stupid hipsters.
Your the idiot here pal, some of us Iphone users are smarter than the masses that blindly buy this stuff. Jealousy gets you no where bud. 4G speeds are nice ive used phones with it and the signal, its equal to using wi fi speed on a current smartphone. But I think it eats the battery life more and most people that have a 4G ready phone now wont have it in their area until well into next year. By then their current 4G phone will be long outdated.
No, there's no "3G+". You're further blurring the lines between two distinctly different technologies, and no, the iphone does not support 4G at all, whatsoever, in any form. So by definition, the iphone supports 3G technology on every carrier to date. Also, AT&T currently has no actual 4G coverage anywhere. Either does tmobile.
Verizon LTE isnt all that either Ive used it, no big deal in my book. Most areas dont even have 3G yet not to mention 4G lol.
Just goes to show most consumers have no idea what the specs mean.
All they care about are the 'gee-bees' etc.
Of course it doesn't help that idiots like AT&T advertise their HSPA+ service as a 4G service (even though the iphone 4 doesn't support this).
Edit for above:
For the non tech savy consumer:
They think since they are on a carrier a that 'offers' 4G service, they think their phone must have the capabilities.
(AT&T claims their service as 4g, and the non tech savy buy into it.)
I am a bit confused myself and I would like to think im tech savy. I always understood it as Iphone 4 had 4g capabilities, but you just had to pay more for your plan to get it. So by default, it came with 3g, but u could upgrade to 4g...So from reading all these comments it seems 4g really isn't even "4g" at all... Which saves me money in the end
...Anyways..I wouldn't call them stupid because honestly it seems like a perfect scheme from AT&T for doing it. It's not there fault America is "dumb" enough to not do research though. So in the end, they are dumb for not doing research, but you can't blame them for listening to AT&T...confusing? I hope so
ignore the fact that they offer 4g for a min
if your phone dont have a chip that can do 4g why are you trying/saying you use 4g
Chip as in simcard? Also would be a good point. Just like if you only had Edge speed, you need a new simcard to even access the 3g.
Well the iPhone 3G and 3GS only support HSDPA not HSUPA so they half support 3G+ or what AT&T and T-mobile like to call 4G, but the iPhone 4 supports both HSDPA and HSUPA so it fully supports 3G+ or what their definition of 4G is. So under AT&T and T-mobile's definition of 4G the iPhone 4 is a 4G phone.
This is the most ridiculous logic I've seen in a LONG time and boy is that saying something. The only provider right now that has as close to the definition of 4G is Verizon. AT&T's "4G" is HSPA+ or simply 3G with more capacity that favors data over voice. The iPhone4 does not support HSPA+ and neither will the next iPhone by everything I've read. Sprint's WiMax is a dud and it looks like they will be going the LTE route soon. T-Mobile's "4G" is worse than other carrier's 3G from a few articles I've read. I love how AT&T said they had fast 4G service....sure they do....at their R&D Lab in Texas. I live in Boston but did not get an LTE device because I don't like having to carry around 1-2 extra batteries.
dcompart,I agree on the way Apple named the 3G and then the 3GS. but I seriously doubt they were trying to fool people with the Iphone 4. It was a total redesign of the phone, not just another processor upgrade to the the 3G. Therefore a next version gets the number 4 nomenclature. The same is true when companies name software revisions. If you are paying 400-500$ for a phone you should at least read up on the specifications of what the phone can do. Don't blame Apple or any of the other phone companies, if people just come out of pocket out of stupidity.
I agree with you about the iPhone 4 nomenclature, the iPhone 4 is not just an upgraded 3GS, like I said they have already used the number 3 and with a whole new phone they could not use any nomenclature of 3 or less, so the 4 makes sense. As far as my comment regarding the Forbidden Fruit Company confusing customers about the 4G, from this standpoint in time it does appear like Apple's 4 nomenclature does show some deception, but your comment does take home the prize, at the time of release, the 4G boom hadn't happened yet so thanks for the correction.
I also agree with you regarding consumer stupidity, but there are millions of technologically deficient people out there that make this mistake. I was just looking out for those millions of people, lol.
lmao! haha it typical of idiot technology users like "i have an antivirus im safe" or "i have norton anti virus" then to find out that the subscription expired 2 years ago and its not enabled. hmmm i have and iphone 4 of course it has 4g lol :-P
Chip as in simcard? Also would be a good point. Just like if you only had Edge speed, you need a new simcard to even access the 3g.
Not just the simcard, the smartphone itself needs a chipset on the physical logic board that supports the various bands of 4G.
For example, the iphone uses 2 different chipsets on their latest iPhone 4 models. One works for AT&T and GSM networks, while the other works for CDMA networks (verizon).
I have the HTC Inspire 4G. Works great. Speeds are much faster then my girlfriends Verizon Motorola Droid X. Android rooting FTW.
I think this shows how many people don't research what phone there getting, and just fall for pretty pictures on the image box.